Politics and Religion
health care bill unconstitutional, a judge declared, thats what i am talking about, good job
liberals, you guys make up your laws, lomfao, lol, rolomfao, lol loud.
...was the provision forcing the uninsured to purchase health insurence.
A provision that the left was utterly irate over, as it would punish the poor and force them to give a massive amount of their income to the for-profit health insurance industry.
An industry, that the left in this HCR proposal sought to destroy.
As far as I'm concerned, this is good news, and very BAD news for those who want to profit off of other's misfortunes.
I went without health insurance for decades, and only purchased health insurance for myself in the last few years, as I was already spending several thousand dollars a month for my employees, I might as well buy it for myself.
During the 25+ years that I was "self-insured" I doubt that I spent two grand in health related expenses with the exception of laser surgery for my eyes and some dental work. It was a conscious choice I made, not one of necessity. My thoughts were, why should I bet against my health while the insurance company is betting on me?
Somehow, forcing people to buy insurance that effects only them seems very unamerican to me. of course there should also be a provision that those that choose not to purchase health insurance should not be able to leech off of the taxpayers if they do get sick.
If someone wants to take on the risk of their own health care, who is the government to force them to do otherwise? On this I agree with you completely.
It's certainly seems unfair, if not UnAmerican to force anyone to consume anything.
The horrible thing to me is that someone could face life a threatening illness that could be treated, but someone can't afford to pay the bill.
There's something horribly inhumane about this in my view, and while I could expect it to happen in North Korea or Uganda, seems ridiculous that it should happen in the richest country on the planet.
What also seems absurd is the costs. On average, it costs a half a million dollars to treat cancer. A half a million? For one person?
I don't prefer a government run health care system, but there is something fundamentally flawed about our current private system.
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i still would have preferred a public option
Long way from over. This is a District Judge and there are many more steps to go. So, constitutionality of the law is yet to be determined until it goes to the supreme court.
Constitution does give congress the right pass laws.
Does this mean I don't have to pay taxes which the government makes me do every year and I don't want to.
how to you think the vote is going to turn out? There is only one Justice that matters, and his name is Anthony Kennedy. It will be his decision.
30 some years of appellate law have taught me one thing.
If you want to make predictions, and make money on them, go to the track and pick someone in the fifth race.
Any one Justice can have 100 factors in minde. Even Kennedy, who wrote a favorable gay rights opinon in the past, has written that the Court should be wary of being too far ahead of society in judicial mandates. (My paraphrase.)
With abortion, a large number of states had voted it in. Likewise, by the time Brown v. Bd was decided, many states had outlawed segreation.
In contrast, this ia a blank slate with little Supreme Court precedent.
If you want to place a bet on the future, bet on the Super Bowl or the fifth at Hollywood Park.
One urgent questions, the court could take it right now and by pass the Circuit court. It could be this year. But it depends what they want to do. That is why they are "supreme."
The tax analogy is weak. Obama repeatedly said this was not a tax issue. I can see a strong estoppel argument that if they did not pass it as a tax, they can't defend it as a tax.
Everything today is baseless hyper partisan crap. Not worth debating so, I do what I believe in and feel like doing at any given time.
I do not know whether supreme court will grab a case on their own, I am not a lawyer, you may be. Besides, I have lost every bit of faith in the justice system and the supreme court is on the top. There are no justices, we have partisans, and have people never should have been appointed to the court. Supreme court justices are supposed to impartial, and legal scholars and philosophical about justice. They are supposed to be beyond the ones who give speeding fines. Don't have any legal scholars, impartial justices, or philosophical ones who are capable of seeing the impact of their ruling 100 years from today. No one like that will ever, ever get confirmed today.
When justices are classified as either liberal or conservative, the legal system is dead and a farce. All that means is case decided by liberals can be brought up to the court again when there is conservative majority on the court and it will get a different ruling and that is not interpreting the constitution or ruling based any jurisprudence.
wasn't the judge found to be a partner in a GOP consulting firm that worked against healthcare reform? i thought i heard that at some point today.
I guess this stupid country is the only exception where Health Care is not guaranteed for everyone but it is OK for 40 million people who have no insurance to jam the ER in hospitals across the country, get the treatment they need and don't pay a penny.
The cost is then spread by hospitals to those who have insurance! Ha ha ha ha ha.
So, what you people call it? Redistribution of wealth or redistribution of expenses?
Why don't we send them to Germany for free health care?
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