I don't know anything about Sanchez since I don't watch the Communist News Network.The two clips I viewed on Sanchez didn't look like a big deal to me. I've only heard him on the radio a couple times.
Jon Stewart however, most certainly is a bigot even when he's a funny bigot.He is extremely convinced of his own opinions, or perhaps he is fooling me and he is merely a jokester.
Learn something new every day, I had no idea Stewart is a Jew. Does he?http://jangle04.home.mindspring.com/1028.html
IMO CNN showed they are run by hyper sensitive wussies that can't take a joke, or the truth, no matter what race or religion they might be.
The three biggest wussies on the boob tube  agree, Sanchez crossed the line. One of them claims to be a girl, could that be true?
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/olbermann-maddow-maher-on-rick-sanchez-video/

because this is NOT the black & white situation
that I first thought it was. In fact, I find the whole situation to be sad & unfortunate.

I think it would behoove John Stewart to make a serious comment about this incident which COULD
resolve things. If not, this could blow up into a serious confrontation between Latinos & Jews which is NOT what the already heavily polarized climate of this country needs at the moment.

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I read his comments and I'll be damned if I can figure out where the racism is.

I love Jon Stewart's comedy. He is a great physical comedian. I really don't know much more about him and don't really care. His purpose is to entertain, and he does very well at it. I imagine my politics probably do differ significantly from his, but who gives a crap if he makes me laugh?

I am pretty sure I don't even know who Rick Sanchez is. I can't remember the last time I spent any time watching CNN. Its possible that Bush Sr. ws in office at the time.

But if CNN would be kind enough to point to which among Sanchez's statements was racist, I'd sure appreciate it. Unless someone amended the definition of racism while I wasn't looking, absolutely nothing he said fits the bill. Just more politically correct horseshit is all I see.

Too bad, altho I agreed with him on very little, he is easy on the eyes lol.   While I understand why CNN fired him, nothing he said was untrue in his own experience. Again, too bad. I liked watching him.

...remark, however, given that you are from the South, I suspect this is how you were brought up.

'Jew' should not be used as an adjective. It is almost always a pejorative. Remember Archie Bunker talking about his "Jew lawyers?"

That reminds me, when Republicans say "Democrat Party," "Democrat Senator,"  etc., it is also the case of using a noun as an adjective with the intent to insult.

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Next you will tell me we don't really control all teh worlds money and that there is no Easter Bunny

For my own part, I really didn't yet that offended by any of this, have heard it all before and I know where my tribe came from and what we have been through.  

Folks need to learn a little tolerance, even when that means tolerating a moron or dumb comment here or there

He said those things on a Sirius radio program. Not at work but was live on the air.

His comments barely rate a two, cmon we hear much worse than that here virtually every day.

I am certainly glad I don't make my living "on the air", I wouldn't make it through the first day.

as the link below amply demonstrates. Like shooting fish in a barrel------moron-----

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is like committing career suicide. He must have wanted to get fired so he can get off the drowning CNN and go somewhere else where he can be seen in a more positive light.

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 Who did you call slow???
Four tries to delete a post??? LMAO

Of course probably not as Kethie O.would complain since he is so PC

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You before you post, gather your thoughts, I want to thank you, by me slowing down on p&r board, the board will realize who is winner of most insane post. Your post are mainly deletions, 1 post of advice for you to go on sports board and chime In on dissing me when you have no clue what was going on , shows to me what kind of a bully you are, bullies have been a huge focus on alot of shows, only problem it doesnt affect me, dont forget to leave your glass house with your parents. Reading all your post shows to me how intelligent you are.

Sanchez is an idiot and Stewart is a gratuitously cruel bastard.

Sanchez isn't about to start Holocaust Part II and Stewart is just an asshole.

that I thought didn't reflect my philosophy. But, of course, quad, that didnt occur to you; I know it's tough man, but THINK before you post----------

Pri"that I thought didn't reflect my philosophy. But, of course, quad, that didnt occur to you; I know it's tough man, but THINK before you post--"


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 ROFL I did think, or at the least,I wondered.
I wondered why you blasted lior in the past for making a statement,soon to delete, and you perform the same action.
I read the post you deleted. It made sense to me..lol maybe that is what you were afraid of.
I wondered what you found objectionable in your hindsight to compel you to delete.
I have told you in the past how to modify your post more than once, and only one modify shows up.
A deleted post with four modifications  left on the table hints at _________
I feel the need to be kind . If you don't mind fill in the blank when you have time.
I don't need to know your answer.I already have valid suspicions.

so it only shows up once? Don't recall you mentioning that.

As for the post I had 2nd thoughts about, it was written in anger; when I cooled down, I realized it was hypocritical, stupid & out of bounds,so I
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Yes, Quad, even I make mistakes from time to time---------

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so it only shows up once? Don't recall you mentioning that.

"As for the post I had 2nd thoughts about, it was written in anger; when I cooled down, I realized it was hypocritical, stupid & out of bounds,so I
deleted it."


Quite often the absolute truths of what we believe, is revealed  in anger.
More often than not, Hypocrisy is the manna of P@R  

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I am trying to follow liorrs recent examples, How to get along with "almost" everyone.
"jackshitt" being the main exception

STFU. People gotta learn that when someone puts a microphone in front of your face, it's best not to say anything, especially on a topic like this.

For those of you who watched the movie Bull Durham, there was a great scene on a bus ride between Kevin Costner and Tim Robbins. Robbins, a young stupid minor league pitcher with a ton a talent, and Costner a veteran minor league catcher whose job is to teach Robbins how to pitch. Robbins reaches out to Costner on a bus ride to teach him more. The next lesson was for Robbins to learn his cliches. The point is, if you are rich, famous and/powerful, say nothing, or at best, repeat specific non-inflammatory cliches.

Now I do find it interesting that Oliver Stone, another off the chart liberal, basically said the same stuff as Sanchez, but without the same consequences.

Watching liberals going after liberals is actually a fun sport.

our thoughtful posters who remarkably concluded this time on the same statements that things were not so black and white.

you failed to mention that I used the same pejorative in your subject heading against members of the right; evidence can be found in the link below.

Croix missed a crucial detail : why wasn't Oliver Stone subjected to same excoriation that
Sanchez was ( both are liberals, btw ) Because Stone is 1/2 Jewish , that's why.

Which illustrates up a famous double standard--members of a racial/ethnic/religious group can  use "humorous" slurs describing their group among THEMSELVES, but is VERBOTEN from someone
OUTSIDE the group to use those same slurs.

I have no idea what you and marikod are talking about. Nevertheless, I guess you are saying that Oliver Stone gets a free pass. You do know he ain't a real Jew. Yes, his father is/was Jewish, but his mother is/was Roman Catholic. And in the Jewish world, Mom trumps Dad.

Now, if Sanchez or Stone had said something like, "Jews have a disproportionate amount of influence in the media based on their population size", vs Jews control the media. Would that be OK? You can say blacks have a higher incarceration based on population, or hispanics have a higher number of undocumented aliens based on population. All are factual, and you could probably get away with it.

But sometimes it's best to keep your mouth shut. Just use a Kevin Costner cliche, "I'm just here to help the ball club".

Stone made functionally the same comment - branding him a "left wing Hitler" even in jest while you properly recognized that the issue with Sanchez was too complex for a knew jerk reaction.

      So Stone's Jewish heritage does not explain your disdain for his rather mild comments and your more reasonable position re Sanchez.

   St. Croix's point is a different one - he properly laments the lack of judgment by one in Sanchez's position. All the guy had to do was use the usual cliches and we'd be watching him next instead of Elliot Spitzer.

that didn't exist with Stone. Sanchez was being continually "teased" ( some might say "bullied or "baited" ) by Stewart. Stone was NOT in the same position & should have known better. As someone pointed out here ( Quad, I think ) some people ( IE, Sanchez ) can't handle that kind of treatment & "snap", which is what prompted his comments on Jews & the media. I say this paradoxically, because I don't like Sanchez; NOT because he's Hispanic, but because I've seen him on CNN & regard him as a high-strung jerk. Still, I don't think that justifies Stewart's continual needling of him, which may of have went over the line. In fact, race shouldn't have entered the picture at all in this situation. As I said, this is a complex situation.

AS for Sanchez's & Stone's comments, I'm thick skinned & they didn't bother me. However, we live in a very PC climate & I can see how they can offend many others. Croix is spot on ( one of few times I will say this ) when he said they
should have showed some form of elemental judgment & STFU.

But at least Sanchez & Stone didn't say they were
gonna burn Korans on a youtube video-----

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anti-semitic intent from statements that the  "Jews dominate the media" is kind of silly bc, as St. Croix points out, if you choose your words carefully - perhaps "there are a disproportionate number of Jews in the media" - you are simply making a correct (or perhaps incorrect) statement of fact.

    If I tell you that African Amercians dominate pick up basketball every where I play, is that a racist remark, or simply a statement of what I perceive? Ask St. Croix, when choosing sides at Manhattan beach, is he going to pick me, or the brother? Is he a racist for assuming the brother is better bc of his race?

      I think it is far more reasonable to assume that when Stone and Sanchez made such comments in a live interview that they simply did not choose their words carefully. Since you seem to disdain political correctness for its own sake, I'm surprised that is not your position.

"However, we live in a very PC climate & I can see how they can offend many others. Croix is spot on ( one of few times I will say this ) when he said they
should have showed some form of elemental judgment & STFU."


I was AGREEING with Croix.


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then you starting to talk about chardonnay's and cheese. Even though you only pass when you are guarded by 3 defenders, I thought you had a little Woody Harrelson (White Men Can't Jump) in you. Please tell me you got game.

I'm not sure now, but I'm leaning toward the brother (lol).

I'd be inclined to go with the brother as well.

Does that mean you would automatically pick the asian guy as your lab partner, sight unseen as well? lol