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good question...
Hpygolky 233 Reviews 222 reads
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Juan Orlando Hernandez, the former Honduran President, who was abruptly pardoned by President Trump was a drug dealer Kinda like what Maduro  is. One gets arrested and the other is set free.
Now, what if the next president turns around and pardon Maduro. He was captured illegally, according to some. We know he won't get a fair trail and will be treated very "poorly"....so what if in about 4 years, Maduro gets pardon and is free to walk among us...like Hernandez.
Before righties loose their shit over this, "Happy is pro drugs",  
I think Hernandez should have never been pardon, so relax noobs

crsm27 32 Reviews 51 reads
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The issues or things not talked about is...

 
1. What assets were taken from them?

 
2. Will they or are they getting back into political power after the pardon?

 
3.  What info/intel did we get from them?

 
4.  What happened after they were taken from power to their country?  Did we get better trade, better relations, etc?

 
This is what people forget or don't talk about.  They just hear about the pardon.  They forget about sanction, fines, asset fioriture, information collected, etc.   Some of the intel collected to capture Murdo could have come from this guy.  We don't know.

Hpygolky 233 Reviews 54 reads
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Seems to you that even though Hernandez trafficked in 400 tons of cocaine, which probably extended to any drug addiction and possible deaths. And he's took pleasure in it by saying he wanted to ""shove the drugs right up the noses of the gringos". You feel that as long as it was transactional, then these addiction, death were all collateral damage. Sorta of the price of doing business...Am I on the right track here?
And to say any money if forfeited from any of his assets for any damages and heart break due to drugs that he help navigate here, well those poor souls who suffered were all collateral damage....right?
I'm not surprised by your views on this...oh and Honduras was and will always be a allie to US, trading info was coming with or without the pardon

crsm27 32 Reviews 50 reads
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BTW.... I didn't think Hernandez should have gotten a pardon.

 
BUT the thing you and others don't get about people who are "pardoned" is that many still faced time in prison, paid fines, debt, forfeited assets, etc.   Also, a pardon doesn't clear your record (it gives back your rights).  So your record still shows the crime.    

Now back to the Hernandez Case:

1. They didn't prove he directly trafficked cocaine/weapons
2. He was charged with taking Bribes (like Maduro)
3. They said his campaign got money from cartels (like Maduro)
4. His Brother and Nephews were the traffickers.  
5. They said he took money from El Chapo to let drugs pass thru the country (Maduro allowed drugs to flow thru country)
6. 400 tons was EL Chapo and his brother/nephews.    
7. He didn't have an arrest warrant out for him at the time.
8. He turned himself in.

 
Now again....the facts are they got him for accepting drug money for his campaign, accepting bribes, and allowing drugs to go thru the country.   He maintains his innocence about "knowingly" or "his police" were using force to keep drug routes open.    

 

We don't know the assets that were taken from him or forfeited, any fines he paid, information he gave us, etc.... That is things I haven't found.   But those are debts paid.   Also right now Hernandez is wanted in his home country.  They have an arrest warrant out for him, and international one.        

 
Now we will need to see what they Charge Maduro with and prove him guilty of.  

 
But things you are ignoring.....  

1. Maduro $10M Bounty placed on him by Trump 1st term.
2. Maduro $25M bounty placed on him by Biden
3.  Maduro had $50M bounty on him by Trump in August.  
4. He had an international arrest warrant.      
5. The US had sanctions placed on him since OBAMA.    
6. The US (along with 50 other countries) didn't recognize him as a legitimate leader.  
7. The US and other countries saw the humanity crisis going on in Venezuela for YEARS.  

 
But yeah.... now it is "bad" that he isn't the leader anymore.    So you want to talk about "MORALS"...... get the fuck out of here.  

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