McCain won't attack on race. He knows it's got too much risk.
But he's got (and sought) the endorsement of many folks who have no such good sense. Frankly, I think it would be legit to question his good judgment when some of the televangelists or other assholes open the race issue.
There's a couple of levels here. 1st is the behind the scenes organized PACs, like the Swiftboaters, who could have been shut down in a minute if the RNC wanted. McCain will probably not permit that.
But there is the low level prairie fire shit that can't be controlled, and that is going to happen. We've SEEN it happen, and it WILL happen on both sides.
The question is whether it stays low enough that it can be controlled by leaders, or if it really splits things open.
I don't think it will split anything open, because there will always be assholes, and I don't think that McCain will run a dirty campaign. He may Immelman around the countryside, he may be to the right of Attila the Hun, but I don't think he'll run a dirty campaign.
Tuesday's dismal performance by Hillary has tied the hands (vote) of Super Delegates. Baring a meltdown, or yet another skeleton being revealed, Super Delegates are afraid of alienating the African-American vote.
Fast forward to the general election. What will happen if Obama looses? Let's assume that McCain runs a clean campaign that attacks Obama on substantive issues and not on race.
Will the African-Americans be gracious in the loss, or will there be a backlash?
If there is a backlash will it be divisive politics ratcheted up a level or two?
Or will there be protests against the white man?
Will some protests get violent?
It seems like people have forgotten how to be civil in victory and defeat. When 90% of one group is offended, that can lead to a lot of inappropriate reactions.
McCain won't attack on race. He knows it's got too much risk.
But he's got (and sought) the endorsement of many folks who have no such good sense. Frankly, I think it would be legit to question his good judgment when some of the televangelists or other assholes open the race issue.
There's a couple of levels here. 1st is the behind the scenes organized PACs, like the Swiftboaters, who could have been shut down in a minute if the RNC wanted. McCain will probably not permit that.
But there is the low level prairie fire shit that can't be controlled, and that is going to happen. We've SEEN it happen, and it WILL happen on both sides.
The question is whether it stays low enough that it can be controlled by leaders, or if it really splits things open.
I don't think it will split anything open, because there will always be assholes, and I don't think that McCain will run a dirty campaign. He may Immelman around the countryside, he may be to the right of Attila the Hun, but I don't think he'll run a dirty campaign.
I don't think we need to digress into whether McCain can or will run a racially clean campaign.
You can argue that a racially charged campaign could provoke a responses, but I am wondering if there would be an inappropriate response assuming that McCain, and his supporters, run a racially clean campaign.
and that includes any controlled PACs.
I also know that there are elements that cannot be controlled, and there will be racial shit slung around, as sure as the sun rises.
It's been an on-again off-again feature of American politics for 500 years, so it won't stop now.
I think the Jesus folk will bring out the mark of Cain shit, and they will push it.
REv Wright will be an issue as Obama said it is one and it has to do with judgement.
Howard Dean will try to say it is race but it will not matter.
Obama will use race he already has and if MAC starts losing he will go all out .
and FWIW I think you are right on target.
There is nohting to be gained by either candidate to overtly make race an issue, they are both too smart for that. Their supporters OTOH, between the holy jesus crowd, and the militant black morons, neither side has a monopoly on idiot supporters who are liable to do all sorts of crazy shit.
I do believe that if by some off chance McCain falls very far behind he may turn a blind eye to the Jesus crowd demonizing Obama. Much as I dislike Obama I still see him taking the high ground on this issue if for no other reason than the fact that he is still quite young and he knows he can make another run in 2012 or even 2016. I think he is way too smart than to make himself politically irrelevant, ala Al Gore this early in his career. the man probably will be President someday, I just hope not in 2008
the fellow who just calls hisself that).
My client is so reasonable that he even has limited tolerance for whack jobs who go over the edge, and reasonably gives them healthy doses of their own medicine.
"Racism" is a cultural judgment. Even the standard of "non-functional distinctions" is ultimately cultural.
The question becomes, how much tolerance do we have for people who don't look or do things quite like us? Some people are more or less secure about this - the biggest Nazis are typically suburban women, who like to be frightened by anything they think is moderately ugly or disturbing, and they LOVE to disturb people with their whining. Hillary is a fair example, though not really typical.
Peckerwoods are a close 2nd - they usually talk like a shotgun is the solution for everything, mostly because they'd have a hard time either (a) financing a box of shells, or (b) knowing how to use a damn shotgun. GOPGeezer is a good example of (a), while you'd fall in (b). None of these folks can imagine what a shotgun does to a man, nor the consequences of waving shotguns around willy-nilly, because they don't have the RAM, or are too lazy to use it.
BK's favorite homeboys, half of our prison population, are another large group of idiotic assholes, who pretty much fit the descriptions above, except that they also often have the bad taste to shove their issues in their neighbors' faces, instead of taking them out in the woods.
So what does that leave us? Al Gore and the beaners will have to be the salvation of America.
Fuck ya'll. Put your money where your mouth is, and just open fire, and see who's left standing. I'll be in Brazil when you're through.
I was gonna start a band.
I'll be in Brazil quicker than you. Well at least halfway there. I'll probably stop in Panama, park my money then head to the Northern Colombian coast. See ya in four years, if and when the dust settles.
Of course I did say "if", I have little doubt the dummycrats will self destruct again. They can have the legislative branch, the Reps the admimistrative branch, and lord help us with the judicial. That's why I hate the Dems. If they weren't so fucking incompetent we wouldn't be facing twelve straight years of Republican Jurists nominated to the Court.
The problem is that AA's truely believe that they are owed this one, and everything else they fight for. Look what happened with the LA riots that was touched off by an upstanding citizen like Rodney King. How many riots were started because a white man got shafted by the system? Remember that one? How is it that 13% of the US population has instilled a feeling of fear among the masses? Isn't that the definition of terrorism?
BTW, isn't it enough to have a whole public network devoted solely to AA's (BET)? Imagine if the white man created a network called WET?
AA's should just get in line with all the other minorities that work their asses off to get ahead in this White nation.
Thomas Sowell wrote an awesome column.
Uh Oh, Sowell must surely be an "Uncle Tom" for daring to speak the truth.
Juan Williams and Oprah would never call him that. Al Sharpton, Jeremiah Wright and Jessie Jackson probably would if they knew about him but I don't think they read anything that Sowell gets published in.
Folks such as Bryant Gumble and Dan Rather got the ax years ago.
Sharpton, Wright and Jackson have ruined their reputations years ago in most cases so are pretty marginalized.
Since March when the Rev. Wrong Wright story broke Obama has not won the popular vote.
Hillary should had released the REV Wright story after SC and she would be winning.Makes you wonder why the Clintons did not use it ,if they had it at all.
http://www.redstate.com/stories/elections/2008/obamomentum_revisited
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any color, advocating personal repsonsibility.
Good for him, there's a lot of white trash that could take a few pointers from him too.
his is a message of the human condition
sowell's world is content of character, rather then color of skin
bravo.
America is still a racist society when her husband loses. Listen its a big step that he is nominated and we all should be proud of that.
Forget the fact he will be the most liberal candiate to run in sometime (more then Kerry), his inexperience and elistist attitude will also do him in.
The Press in this country will go all out for him
and villify McCain , which will keep it somewhat close. But in the end despite what should be a big Democratic year the american people usually will not vote all 3 branches for one party.
even if her husband was elected King. I'm so glad, that if nothing else my vote cancels her's.
All three branches??? Since when do we get to vote directly for the Judicial branch?
The House and the Senate. Did not mean judicial , my bad.......
You'll be the first. No worries.
no matter what happens. If Hussein is eliminated by the HildaBeast the Blacks will go nuts. If Hussein is beaten by McCain, thr blacks will go nuts. If Hussein wins the whole country will be turned upside down and sodomized in short order. Blacks have been been so accustomed to whining and posturing and threatening to get their hands into the country's pockets for so long that they believe they are now entitled to run all things in the country. Typical damn'd libbie whiners, thieves, shirkers and liars.
Obambi cannot win because most of his primary wins are caucus states which traditionally republican. All of his primary election wins are in states in which African American democratic voters are 30% or more. NC, SC, Mississippi and GA have not gone Democrat since 1964, don't think it is going to change in 2008.
When you look at the electoral maps, Obambi wins in cities and looses all rural areas. Combine that with Republicans, Conservative Democrats, Center leaning Independents, numbers doesn't add up.
Backers of Clinton ~39% have stated they will not vote for Obambi. Even if McCain gets half of 39%, it negates the 90% AA vote for Obambi.
IMHO, Obambi will loose Ohio and PA (especially PA), won't win Florida, heavy older population and Hispanic population Southern Florida combined with very popular Republican Governor.
He may even loose Massachusetts because Deval Patrick, his bosom buddy is very unpopular.
No sane person that is not imbibing Hope-Change-Inspiration-Obambi Kool-Aid believes Obambi can win.
Only ones believing Obambi will win are his Twinkies that are waiting for their messiah to arrive with hope!
Are Twinkies the goofy, aloof, elitist, arrogant bastards that believe God sent them to Earth to run the lives of everyone else as they look down their long snoots at the peasants? I know a few of them, they are staunch Hussein Osama Obama supporters and believe he is their spiritual leader. Damn'd they are more ignorant than they are arrogant, they are also a lazy, sleazy gaggle of shit.
His Socialistic Insecurity Check must have run out for the month.
Obama will almost certainly win PA - the 2 population centers of Pittsburgh & Philadelphia will go overwelmingly for Obama (esp. Philly)..PA hasn't gone Republican since 1988..
And there is ZERO fucking chance Obama will lose California, New York, New Jersey, Illinois, Massachusetts - these states will be double digit victories for Obama....And there are others, but these are the bigger electoral prizes...
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Obambi will not carry all of those states according to the non-partisan information.
Drinking too much Twinkie Kool-Aid?
Look at Real Clear Politics Poll. Bambi lead is 1/10 of 1% now.
Check out the site and do your electoral college simulation. You can also how these states voted in the last few elections going back to Jimmy and beyond.
All you can do is come up with the kool-aid blasts, etc....Obama is not going to lose the states I mentioned previously.....Also, he will win the entire New England area (exception may be New Hampshire, that one could go to McBush), but Obama will carry the others - EASILY, including Massachussets....
The site below contains results of every election (they do the opposite though where Democrats=red & Republicans=blue)....
I don't see Obama taking FL. He'd have to take OH & maybe IN to win.
You are using Aussies view of the world, upside down.
Now you are going to call racist.
Now that's rich. Shades of Zinaval, at least he was honest about it, when pressed at least.
I wouldn't be too sure about MA going for Obama. The libs up here voted for the Yankees fan in the primary.
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Be afraid. Be very afraid. We comin for ya cracker! And yo white bitches too!
Ah hell. Why is it that the race issue is all one way? The fact is Osama is not qualified in any way to be President but African-Americans again put African first and believe he is entitled to the Presidency just because he claims to be black. Bullshit. You want other people to be color blind while you see things only as black and white. It will never work that way. You want reason, be reasonable. Then when you can't get special treatment you threaten terror. "cracker", "white bitches"? What the hell. Well, get at it. I have enough buckshot to deal with a whole gaggle of shit.
Why, you could probably buy a box of shells on a layaway plan in a month or less. And maybe you could borrow a shotgun from the guy down the street.
Where do you come up with this double shit of any "claim to entitlement" to be president, and how do you connect that to his color? What has he ever said or done to make you believe that? Or was it something you heard in your head the other day?
I've never seen such a panicked crew since my little sister was in Girl Scouts. What the fuck are you afraid of, mandatory rations of collard greens? Maybe you're afraid you'll miss your chance for a tour in Iraq.
or there will be hell to pay.
see ya soon