Politics and Religion
Obama lied to the people on the Ayres issue last night...
How could he deny it with all the proof?
You claim he lied. I saw nothing on factcheck to support this. I watched and did not hear anything to support your claim. I am very interested if this is true. Please provide some proof, or at least evidence.
that Obama's relationship is any more than he stated, A professional one while he sat on the Woods foundation board. All that we have seen are unproven assertions made my the right wing blogger, Hannity and the McCain campaign.
Secondarily, if the relationship is no more than a professional one, why would the relationship matter.
You think McCain is clean from having shady characters in his past...think again.
EOM
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There is no god!
...except McCain and people that would vote for him no matter what. Hillary tried using it, didn't work...McCain's bringing it back up to try to save a sinking ship and it STILL doesn't work. At this point, people are more afraid of having a temperamental mental case at the helm than they are an even-tempered black guy who may have been influenced by a 60s radical. I never thought I'd see that happen either, but here we are. Things are so fucked up that this superficial bullshit doesn't matter.
Post about it as much as you'd like, but it will change nothing. Perhaps you weren't there, but the 1960 and 70s were very turbulent decades in the US...the federal government was waging a domestic war on citizens that PEACEFULLY disagreed with its involvement in Vietnam. Big fucking surprise that this would cultivate a few "radical" organizations that set a few bombs and broke a few laws. It was a war going on in Vietnam and right here at home for many of us. You overly patriotic idiots that thought the US was hosting one big apple-pie-serving party during this time period are fucking hilarious.
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I give a damn about Ayers! You are just so full of crap. I know a few Vietnam vets that would love to meet into you. Bet you would run like a little bitch just like the protesters at the "68 convention in Chicago!
"Nobody gives a damn about Ayers...except McCain and people that would vote for him no matter what."
{yawn} Dumbass.
Your own post stated that Hillary made an issue out of it. So are you saying that Hillary is one of those that would vote for McCain no matter what?
Hence the statement "Speaking of Dumbasses"
Wasn't Hillary running a very heated campaign against Obama? Doesn't matter if she really felt like it was an issue or not...the bitch was trying to WIN. Besides, it's not so far-fetched that she would vote against Obama. The Clintons are a bit bitter. They're becoming invalid in politics much sooner than they expected.
That was a BEYOND idiotic retort. I'd say that it goes to your all time high, but you've typed so much dumb shit on here I'm not sure.
Having grown up in the 60's and 70’s I know very well. I quite easily understand how the likes of Ayers and the Weathermen came to be and evolved.
Understanding him does not allow for excusing his behavior.
Understanding him does not allow forgiveness of his behavior, not until he asks for it.
Understanding him does not allow for ignoring BHO's associations with Ayers.
The superficiality of this matter depends solely upon ones values.
I contend that not enough people actually know exactly who Ayers IS and what he DID. McCain didn't really talk about that last night.
I'll betcha the people he tried to blow up sure as fuck give a damn about William Ayers.
Show the proof that the relationship was more that Obama stated. Since there has not been, I can only assume that there isn't any evidence to support otherwise.
Drop the distractions and focus on real issues.
I very much doubt you'll be provided the proof you seek. As is the case so often on this board, many half-assed remarks are thrown out with no substance. Call them on it, & you'll be rewarded with deafening silence.
I'm still waiting for the "proof" from RightwingUnderground >>>
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=74210&boardID=39&page=3
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=74214&boardID=39&page=3
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Learn to use "The Google", will ya?
http://www.democracyfornewmexico.com/democracy_for_new_mexico/2008/06/obama-invitatio.html
http://www.mlive.com/flintjournal/index.ssf/2008/09/obama_returning_to_flint_monda.html
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4191/is_/ai_n27998138
http://ads.qctimes.com/articles/2008/08/22//news/local/doc48af0d532a13c519952574.txt
http://blogs.jsonline.com/allpoliticswatch/archive/2008/08/22/obama-event-in-eau-claire-by-invitation-only.aspx
http://www.wsbt.com/news/election/2008/18448229.html
There were only 300,000 hits for Pete's sake.
...and you are tickled because I copied the same link twice ... wow, doesn't take much to amuse you does it?
The second link that I had intended to post was this:
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=74214&boardID=39&page=4
in which I clarified: "ANYONE can attend an Obama rally. You are NOT screened out in any way. You can even say you support McCain & would llke to attend & you will not be restricted in any way. "
The "invitation only" for Obama rallies is not a Screening mechanism. The space at those rallies was limited, hence "invitation only".
Can YOU prove that Republicans or McCain supporters were EXCLUDED when they tried to get invitations, as YOU implied in your post????
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-- Modified on 10/16/2008 10:45:22 AM
Forget it. It's not going to gain Repubs vote no matter how many times they say this or recycle it.
Why? Because Repubs have alienated a decisive percentage of the population. They are thinking that a former bomber, communist, and war protester is better than what Repubs have to offer.
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