Politics and Religion

Texas Lt Gov just said on Faux
bond007 31 Reviews 26 reads
posted
1 / 12

First, a very asinine statement.  To equate the economy with someones life is immoral.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 94 reads
posted
2 / 12

is move to Italy right now and catch coronavirus.  They are taking the ventilators off old people and letting them die (humanely with a morphine drip) so they can use the ventilators for younger people who have the virus.  Even if old people don't have grandchildren, they will get the opportunity to die for "someone" younger, courtesy of government health care program.  Having grandchildren is not a disqualifier in Italy for having your ventilator yanked out.

Hpygolky 233 Reviews 25 reads
posted
4 / 12

And isn't this the party of "Pro Life"??? Except if it's granny.
This shit is too funny......that it's scary.  
And this guy is from Texas?...FUCK!

BigPapasan 3 Reviews 50 reads
posted
5 / 12

...proving that: "They (Italian doctors) are taking the ventilators off old people and letting them die (humanely with a morphine drip) so they can use the ventilators for younger people who have the virus."

 
You go into such detail about Italian doctors "humanely" giving old people a morphine drip to ease the death process that you surely must have a link to prove you're telling the truth.  Of course you don't!  You're full of shit as usual!

 
Italian doctors take the Hippocratic oath just as American doctors do.  They would not kill a patient so that another will live.  Doctors make choices during triage, especially in the current situation where there aren't enough ventilators for all who need them.  But a doctor would never "yank" a person off a ventilator so that another patient could have it.

 
So where's your link?  You make up bullshit to justify your hatred for "government health care program" as you did in your post and in these posts as well:
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/politics-and-religion-39/amid-all-of-the-dem-talking-points----350848?frmSearch=1#350848
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/politics-and-religion-39/taking-old-people-----350858?frmSearch=1#350858

 
An intelligent person should be able to argue against government-run health care without making up bullshit "facts."  You're an idiot so you lie your ass off to try to justify your political position.

CENZO1 162 Reviews 44 reads
posted
6 / 12

.....with regard as to older patients being “taken off” ventilators and giving them to younger patients but triage is taking place in that doctors are evaluating as to which patients should be given treatment to begin with. The March 16 Special Report from Reuters.com titled “All is well. In Italy, triage and lies for virus patients.” deals with that subject. It is heartbreaking, and it makes one wonder if this may become a necessity elsewhere.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 23 reads
posted
7 / 12

that restarting the economy is a good thing.  Set a record today that you have to go back to 1933 to top.  

 
I believe letting old farts die was part of the stimulus package Pelosi and the Dems wanted, but the Senate will not agree to that part and other sections that have nothing to do with coronavirus.  

 
Speaking of NY, Cuomo has had some pretty nice things to say about Trump's management of this pandemic.  

BigPapasan 3 Reviews 53 reads
posted
8 / 12

...and bullshitting when he lies that old people are "yanked" off ventilators so the ventilators can be given to young people.  I was looking for a link to see if he was right even though I knew he was lying.

 
There was an article in the New England Journal of Medicine along the same lines as your excellent Reuters link.  Both articles show how the agonizing decisions of having to allocate resources rests with frontline doctors, not some amorphous "government health care" bureaucracy that Cur de Liar bullshits about.  The decisions are so difficult that doctors have sought ethical advice, NOT from "government health care'" but from their peers:

 
"The agony of these decisions prompted several of the region’s physicians to seek ethical counsel. In response, the Italian College of Anesthesia, Analgesia, Resuscitation, and Intensive Care (SIAARTI) issued recommendations...the committee urged “clinical reasonableness” as well as...a “soft utilitarian” approach in the face of resource scarcity."
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2005492

 
It comes down to the doctors having to make the tough decisions as to who gets the ventilators when there aren't enough to go around.  Cur de Liar's bullshit lies about how bad "government health care" is doesn't help the right's argument against nationalized medicine.  No Italian doctor has "yanked" old people off ventilators.  Notice how the gutless coward has run away from his remarks and hasn't apologized for lying.  Everything Cur de Liar says is bullshit and his posts should not be given any credibility.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 16 reads
posted
9 / 12

with human sacrifice.  All you need is a virgin and a volcano.  If you can't find a virgin, which is likely in Italy, an old person will do.  Is Vesuvius still active?  Lol

lester_prairie 12 Reviews 35 reads
posted
10 / 12
impposter 49 Reviews 23 reads
posted
11 / 12

Vesuvius is located in the SOUTH of Italy on the lower calf or upper instep of the boot.

Asbj2311 25 reads
posted
12 / 12

So Dumbass Donnie and his cronies at pravda are saying. Get back to work and make us money. You are expendable. Until the people that WORK for a living understand that we are in trouble.

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