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Easy answer - big difference
randomvr301 2140 reads
posted
1 / 24
How are we civilized, they are barbaric?

So 140+ school children are killed in Pakistan by Taliban.  Barbaric, Yes.

20 school children ages 4 -6 sitting in a class room (babies really) and 6 educators killed in Newtown, CT.   12 men, women and children sitting in a movie theater killed in Aurora, CO.    6 people worshipping in a temple in Oak Creek, WI are killed.    Countless incidents of guns used to kill wives, children, fathers and family members, bosses, co-workers.   Barbaric, Yes.

In all cases, guns, assault weapons, rifles call it whatever were used to kill.

How are we civilized, educated and developed and they are barbaric?

-- Modified on 12/16/2014 1:59:59 PM
Related Link: http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/16/world/asia/pakistan-peshawar-school-attack/index.html?hpt...

HONDA 153 Reviews 439 reads
posted
2 / 24
I'm betting mrrate has a good answer to your question........eom


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JackDunphy 467 reads
posted
3 / 24
I agree on both points you seem to be making.

1) Gun free zones are a joke and don't work.

2) Lets have armed guards at the schools to protect the kids.  

We have armed guards to protect our money in armored trucks. Surely you would agree our kids are more important than money. Yes, I think we are in agreement.

quadseasonal 27 Reviews 579 reads
posted
4 / 24
I see no we in Taliban

In Newton, children and adults were killed by one mentally ill extremely sad deranged person, who first killed  his Mom and then the children.  
 The murderer  can be accurately described as him, not we.
    There were no "we or them " acting as assailants in Newton or Oak Creek .  

  In Pakistan a school was assaulted by at least seven barbaric  terrorists killing over 140 people.  
 Those assailants  can be accurately described as  barbaric, or Faithful to other lunatics of their kind.  
 
 In other words, in America it is usually a solitary killer or two, not a group of certified  
killers,  working  in cultural harmony.

   

   
     
Posted By: desigolfer
So 140+ school children are killed in Pakistan by Taliban.  Barbaric, Yes.  
   
 20 school children ages 4 -6 sitting in a class room (babies really) and 6 educators killed in Newtown, CT.   12 men, women and children sitting in a movie theater killed in Aurora, CO.    6 people worshipping in a temple in Oak Creek, WI are killed.    Countless incidents of guns used to kill wives, children, fathers and family members, bosses, co-workers.   Barbaric, Yes.  
   
 In all cases, guns, assault weapons, rifles call it whatever were used to kill.  
   
 How are we civilized, educated and developed and they are barbaric?

-- Modified on 12/16/2014 1:59:59 PM

Robertini 4 Reviews 631 reads
posted
5 / 24
We are all barbarians

but some people and groups go beyond that. It's like they were born to destroy others and themselves as their only main purpose
here, there and everywhere

dncphil 16 Reviews 726 reads
posted
6 / 24
Easy answer - big difference

In the case of Newton, or any other attrocity you can come up with in the US (or other western country),
there is universal condemnation, and no group praises a person who is regarded as a sick nut.

There are nuts in every society, even civilized Norway had one.  

In contrast, the Moslem world has too many incidents to count. The Nigerian school girls, the killing in the subway in Madrid and Londonk, the Bali murder, don't forget 9-11, Boston, Fort Hood, the mass murders after the cartoons, the mass murders after the Miss World contestent said something.

Now let's start buses, cafes, night clubs, pizza parlors in Israel. We can go to the school killing in Moscow.

I am getting tired of listing so will sto[p.

Now the big difference is that after many of the Moslem attrocities, like the buses in Isreal and 9-11, people danced in the streets. No Iman condemned the Pizza parlor in Tel Aviv or the time that a Seder dinner was bombed.

You never saw Americans dance in the street after Newton.

And the one in Pakistan was one out of 100 in the Moslem world.

Can you see the difference.

randomvr301 599 reads
posted
7 / 24
Re: Easy answer - big difference

"You never saw Americans dance in the street after Newton. ".     After Newtown, there have been more school shootings and more students have died.    The President and the parents of Newtown were pleading for a solution.    What happened?    The NRA mailed out checks to US Congress.

I can list all the shootings that have happened since and how many innocent men, women, children and babies in sleep have been shot and killed.

Enough of your BS about guns and gun owning Americans being civilized.

randomvr301 492 reads
posted
8 / 24
Re: I agree on both points you seem to be making.

No money for teachers and you want armed guards!    What a joke.

Robertini 4 Reviews 547 reads
posted
9 / 24
I see it

You didn't see Americans dancing on the streets. But go on line and you would see some writing dancing like messages on the net about all those atrocities.  

I read somewhere that in the Third World people sometimes fight and kill or maim each other with machetes. Here we use chain saws.

randomvr301 514 reads
posted
10 / 24
Re: I see no we in Taliban

What is the difference who kills and what is his / her health?     Why not you look at the parents who lost their children in Newtown?

randomvr301 613 reads
posted
11 / 24
Re: We are all barbarians

You mean the white supremacists who went and shot two policemen in Nevada or that guy who went to Sikh temple and killed people who were praying in a temple?

randomvr301 481 reads
posted
12 / 24
Re: I see it

Why not you talk about the sick society that we have here?    Fathers ambushing their ex wives and killing them along with their own children?     What do you call it?

Robertini 4 Reviews 618 reads
posted
13 / 24
Both of them. You see a difference? Who would you call the barbarian? (eom)


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Robertini 4 Reviews 532 reads
posted
14 / 24
Exactly.That's what I say. It's world wide human thing (eom)


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613spades 5 Reviews 570 reads
posted
15 / 24
Yep and the gun is the root cause of it all... Without it there would be no murders

If that's as deep as you can think it will never get better. The tools used to kill will change and evolve, they have for 20,000 years. Good luck in Australia.  

Posted By: desigolfer
Why not you talk about the sick society that we have here?    Fathers ambushing their ex wives and killing them along with their own children?     What do you call it?

randomvr301 480 reads
posted
16 / 24
Re: Both of them. You see a difference? Who would you call the barbarian? (eom)

"BARBARIAN"

.. anyone who arms himself / herself with an assault weapon and hundreds rounds of ammo, goes to a public place and kills innocent men, women and children.

Does not matter what country, whether you wear a turban or jeans, you speak English or another language, your skin is white or brown or black.

randomvr301 478 reads
posted
17 / 24
Re: Easy answer - big difference

"You never saw Americans dance in the street after Newton.".   They did not dance but went to elected officials with money and had legislation passed making it more easy for people to buy assault weapons and ammo.    Many states passed legislation allowing carrying assault weapons in public places, universities, bars, classrooms, churches etc.,

No remedy but more weapons!

-Big Difference.   Really.

randomvr301 457 reads
posted
18 / 24
Re: Exactly.That's what I say. It's world wide human thing (eom)

It is not a world wide problem.   It is an American problem.    Here people settle problems with guns.

randomvr301 672 reads
posted
19 / 24
Re: Yep and the gun is the root cause of it all... Without it there would be no murders

You may want to note that Australia can ban all guns for ever if they want to.   They don't have the NRA and the Second Amendment.

quadseasonal 27 Reviews 568 reads
posted
20 / 24
You only see what you look for

If you believe a move to Australia will guarantee your safety  from lunacy, you are mistaken.  

http://nypost.com/2014/10/07/chef-who-cooked-and-killed-trans-wife-had-a-dark-side/

  Be careful in Melbourne, you'll never know where the  white supremist is hiding.  

 https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/society/2014/04/05/hunting-australia%E2%80%99s-neo-nazis/1396616400#.VJDUgJU5CM8

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/lindt-cafe-siege-reminds-us-of-lessons-from-cronulla-riots-20141215-127ofg.html
Related Link: http://nypost.com/2014/10/07/chef-who-cooked-and-killed-trans-wife-had-a-dark-side/

MrRate 406 reads
posted
21 / 24
You never answered my question from the other day

Why aren't 'gun free zones' gun free? Please advise.

MrRate 622 reads
posted
22 / 24
"Why not you look at the parents"

You really are a special moron aren't you? Clocks ticking for your move to Australia. Hows the BP talent there?  

Posted By: desigolfer
What is the difference who kills and what is his / her health?     Why not you look at the parents who lost their children in Newtown?

MrRate 542 reads
posted
23 / 24
How did the terrorist get his shotgun? EOM


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dncphil 16 Reviews 593 reads
posted
24 / 24
Re: Boy did you avoid what I said

I said a big difference is that no one was dancing in the streets and it is an isolated instance.  
You responded that they didn't do anything re gun control.

that is a different thing.  Honest and good people can disagree  as to cause and how to avoid another newton.  There can be honest disagreement whether controls should be on guns or crazies.

However, even the "gun nuts" were not celebrationg Newton.  No gun nut handed out candy on the street as palestinans do when Jews are killed in cafes.

I know thhe killings here since I am a criminal defense attorney.  A gang banger shooting a rival on the street is not the same as pakistan
Posted By: desigolfer
"You never saw Americans dance in the street after Newton. ".     After Newtown, there have been more school shootings and more students have died.    The President and the parents of Newtown were pleading for a solution.    What happened?    The NRA mailed out checks to US Congress.  
   
 I can list all the shootings that have happened since and how many innocent men, women, children and babies in sleep have been shot and killed.  
   
 Enough of your BS about guns and gun owning Americans being civilized.

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