...There are four Walton family members among Forbes top 20 billionaires.  If they pay a little more money to help hundreds of thousands of their employees to get out of poverty, The Waltons may drop down to 30th or 40th.  Don't you have any sympathy for the super-rich?  How would they show their faces at the country club?

-- Modified on 11/25/2012 10:57:10 PM

their stores out of this country.. FACT: the rest of the world is enslaved by our consumerism, we shop, they make the cheap goods so the multinational corporations can make a HUGE profit...


IMHO- the way to deal with walmart, which is our nations LARGEST employer, is to boycot..and we're not boycoting it over our work conditions, but the work conditions of the slaves that make the products we go buy

http://muscatinejournal.com/news/world/asia/fire-kills-workers-at-bangladesh-garment-maker/article_80b1b9f6-1cd2-5536-971d-297fb7085c5d.html

"Fire raced up the floors of a Bangladeshi garment factory with no emergency exits, killing at least 112 people, some of whom jumped from the eight-story building where they made clothes for major global retailers.

Investigators suspect that a short circuit caused the fire Saturday night outside the capital, Dhaka, said Maj. Mohammad Mahbub, fire department operations director.

The factory is owned by Tazreen Fashions Ltd., a subsidiary of the Tuba Group, which makes products for Wal-Mart, IKEA and other companies in the U.S. and Europe."

Because you see the world in a well defined FALSE left/right paradigm you seem to ALWAYS miss the bigger points of ANY debate

its that your boycott stuff will not work. Like I said, the consumer only seeks the lowest prices possible. If you could set up an effective boycott, it would work on raising wages, but then the prices of the goods would simply go up. the Waltons would still make what they made before and all the Black Friday shoppers would foot the bill.

BTW, honest question and hoping for an honest answer, what type of cell phone do you own?

BUT, I have a prepaid dumb phone by Nokia..

Boycotting will work..But, for it to work their has to be a major shift in values..Morality based values vs money based values...and I agree the american people are no where near this revolution of consciousness

my point is, I shop at corporations ONLY when I have to, not even a sale will bring me out to one, ONLY something I need..Like a phone, or the internet... or gas and lights

Actually, your example of the cell phones is a better example of a corporate monopoly, than it is my hypocrisy, because their is NO little guy in this industry..



-- Modified on 11/26/2012 5:10:22 AM

You are right, there are some products that are virtually impossible to get manufactured within the U.S.

I also agree with your take on a morality based vs. a consciousness as a criteria. I suppose my take is, and yes, many will say I am cynical, is that I do not really see this changing. Kind of like spitting into the wind, you can hope but the result is always the same.

My beliefs are basically that monetary and personal gain are still huge motivators so we need to plan policy based on that to take advantage of that.

I think a good example of this can be found in the Ambrose book "Nothing like it in the World". It is about the building of the transcontinental railroad. This achievement was HUGE and benefited a lot of people, but the major push for it was the industrialists of the day were paid by miles of track laid.

Employee benefits are mostly tax deferred. Showing faces at the country club is not problem because they are surrounded by the same birds.