For anyone interested, Rense.com is a one man operation run by an ex-convict named Jeffrey Rense out of his bedroom apartment in Malibu. He finances his operation through donations from ignorant fools like funtime69, and makes extra cash on the side selling maps to the Stars homes as well as his "authentic" pictures of aliens, and alien spacecraft from a street corner off Pacific Coast Highway in Malibu (I've seen 'em, they are poorly photoshopped montages of existing UFO imagery). He has no connection to any legitimate news or political organization, and is considered nothing more than a local nuisance who's biggest talent is playing tourists and fools like funtime69 for suckers.

Want his address and phone number? Or just the name of his parole officer? Both are readily available publicly on the Net if you know where to search.

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Perhaps rense received his news from other sources. Such as the haaretz paper. Further, even if he is a luny at times, does that mean everything he posts is false??



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fuck about rense.com," THEN WHY ARE YOU QUOTING HIM?  And why don't you answer MasterZed's question and provide the DATE of the Haaretz paper that contained "the information" you quoted?  The reason you haven't, of course, is that YOU CAN'T, because what you attributed to Haaretz is FICTITIOUS!  And, of course, I'm still waiting for your "research" to answer my challenges to you.  Looks like it'll be a LONG, LONG wait!  LOL

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http://www.axisoflogic.com/cgi-bin/exec/view.pl?archive=59&num=7214





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Report: Syria nabs Mossad men planning to kill Hamas leader
By News Report
May 4, 2004, 18:03

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Syria recently thwarted a second attempt by the Israeli Mossad espionage agency to killed Hamas leader Khaled Meshal, the Tehran Times reported Monday.



Quoting "reliable sources," the paper claims that five Yemenite Jews, disguised as Muslims, participated in a ceremony in Damascus to commemorate assassinated Hamas leader Abed al-Aziz Rantisi.

The paper claims that the five entered the Yarmook camp in Damascus to meet Meshal and Mousa Abu Marzook, a high-ranking member of the Hamas political office.

The five were dispatched by the Mossad, the paper claims, to assassinate the two top Hamas officials, but were nabbed by Meshal's bodyguards.

The five men are currently being held by the Syrian security forces, according to the report, but have still not been identified. They said during questioning that entered Syria through Jordan and were sent by the Mossad to kill the Hamas officials.

An attempt to assassinate Meshal was foiled in 1997 when two Mossad agents were caught in Jordan with forged Canadian passports. They were released a few days later and sent back to Israel.



http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/423003.html










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See above post

I believe i am owed an apology...

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Axis of Logic is not Haaretz Daily. They took a propaganda hate piece about Israel with no author attribution, using the name News Report. It so happens, I'm a personal friend of the REAL Mr. Report, and he assures me he never EVER wrote that pile of crap.

As far as the link to haaretzdaily is concerned, it doesn't exist. never did. It generates a 404 error. The actual structure of the link in Axis of Logic doesn't follow the standard http link structure for the haaretz website.

funtime69, the article certainly appears on the web, on Axis of Logics website. And I can understand where you might have been confused or misled by the link to the Israeli paper at the end of the article.

Here's what I think... I think that if that article appeared in an Israeli paper at all, it would have been the subject of the article itself, not a story being reported. The same way The Jerusalem Post reported on the Blood Libel article written in the pre-eminent Egyptian newspaper in April of this year.
Was that too complicated for you to understand?

But I'm afraid that at this moment, we are left with no answers, but even more questions than we had before.

HOWEVER, I will grant that it is not your fault the link turned out to be a fraud. you are not a lunatic, merely a misguided fellow who was duped by some very smart, very evil people.

Like MasterZed says, PROVIDE THE DATE OF THE ARTICLE IN HAARETZ DAILY!  Your report is from the TEHRAN TIMES - should we trust that?  You keep on going from the frying pan into the fire!

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I'm still waiting for Funtime's "research" that shows proof that Jews "created and own" the Federal Reserve (I'm still laughing at that one) and that Jews "own" the media.  Stockholder lists please.

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The message behind this post is not anti-Semitic. The Rothchilds full well knew what they were getting into when financing him. Some food for thought.

I believe in the concept of a higher being, and the concept of a point man in human form. However, I also believe unequivocally that organized religion is patently corrupt, whether it be Jewish, Christian, Buddhist or Islamic, and if I were a Falwell or a Robertson, I'd be worried the the prophecies of the Book of Revelation are one big hallucination, because these are the guys God is going after first.

BTW, Haaretz is IMHO one of the more responsible publications. DEBKAfile, by comparison, makes Wolfie and Perle (who are likely Mossad moles) look like the Gandhi family.



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About the 404 error. That is new. Previously, it had said link expired.
Maybe they never had a link cuz they never reorted it. Maybe they did and the link did expire.
I believe there could be evil people who wrote that piece to dupe people like me. Anything is possible.

Have a happy Thanksgiving...

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As a footnote, most, if not all, of Rense's articles are written by others.

For better or worse, we live in interesting times.

BANKROLLED Hitler, but in your link it said that Hitler was supported by the international fraternity, which was closely ENTWINED with the Rothchilds.  But ALL banking relationships are entwined, and given the extent of the Rothchilds banking interests, it would seem likely that Hitler's financial support would also have had banking relationships with the Rothchilds (at least prior to about 1936).  But this does NOT mean that the Rothchilds financed Hitler.  Indeed, quite the contrary.

"It is possible that Hitler discovered his Jewish background and his relation to the Rothschilds, and aware of their enormous power to make or break European governments, re-established contact with the family. This would partially explain the enormous support he received from the international banking fraternity, closely entwined with the Rothschild family, as he rose to power."

Directly, indirectly, what's the difference? Same same but different, no?

statement.  How about this one?  It is possible that Hitler never could prove he had any Jewish background and thus didn't bother having any contact with Jews whatsoever.  Look, I don't have a clue who Hitler's grandmother fucked, and neither does anyone else.  It's all speculation.  But the statement in your link IN NO WAY points to proof that the Rothchilds BANKROLLED Hitler.  It simply said that "it is possible"...... and "entwined with the Rothchild family"...  Pure speculation, and absolutely, positively nothing more.  That's what it meant to me.

Dude, how many times are you going to read your own posts?

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ACTUALLY said, which was NOT what you indicated or implied in your post.  So, you can interpret things your way, and I'll interpret them my way, but English is English, and the expression "it is possible" does NOT GUARANTEE truth, and to be "entwined" with something does NOT MEAN active engagement or participation.  If you disagree, then we are speaking two different languages.

I will say this about LaRouche. For a so-called right wing extremist he spends an awful lot of time with poor people of colour. On economic issues, he's extremely intelligent. He also got on the wrong side of the Government, Clinton pardoned him, he must be doing something right, IMHO. more importantly, he absolutely made the right call on Iraq and on 9/11). No matter how you feel about him, you have to give him the props for his foresight here.

In the cited link, I see no reference to LaRouche, nor any citation to any of his published works. I spent a great deal of time on the website before submitting the link, although, frankly, there were at least a dozen to choose from.

The problem is, you won't find one from sources you consider to be reliable (I long have considered the mainstream, corporate media illegitimate).

Historically, The Powers That Be have tried to get back tot he 9th Century since, well, the 9th Century. Every time they've failed. They'll be shown the door this time, too, but it's going to be a lot messier and toxic than usual.



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