Politics and Religion

James86, GOPGeezer, now that you are back, or at least delurked, answer my
stilltryin25 16 Reviews 9804 reads
posted
1 / 23

simple question from a few days ago.  What do you think of Funtime69's anti-semitic posts on Jews.  Also Snowman, maybe you can give a better answer than the blame shifting attempts you made in the post "Something for the Conspiracy theorist" below.  I am a very patient man, I will await a straight-forward answer from the three of you until hell freezes over if necessary.
 A sample of Mr. Funtime's blubberings.  

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Some interesting readinjg part 1  
Posted by funtime69  , 6/24/2004 7:12:13 AM    [Go to funtime69's 5 reviews]  
On 12 January 1952, Rabbi Emanuel Rabinovich was asked to give a keynote speech to the Emergency Council of European Rabbis in Budapest, Hungary.


"Greetings, my children! You have been called here to recapitulate the principal steps of our new program. As you know, we had hoped to have twenty years between the wars to consolidate the great gains which we made from World War II, but our increasing numbers in certain vital areas is arousing opposition to us, and we must now work with every means at our disposal to precipitate World War III.

"The goal for which we have striven so concertedly for three thousand years is at last within our reach, and because its fulfilment is so apparent, it behooves us to increase our efforts and our caution tenfold. I can safely promise you that before ten years have passed, our race will have its rightful place in the world, with every Jew a king and every gentile a slave! (applause from the gathering)

"You remember the success of our propaganda campaign during the 1930's, which aroused anti-American passions in Germany, at the same time we were arousing anti-German passions in America, a campaign which culminated in the Second World War. A similar propaganda campaign is now being waged intensively throughout the world. A war fever is being worked up in Russia by an incessant anti-American barrage, while a nationwide anti-Communist scare is sweeping America. This campaign is forcing all of the smaller nations to choose between the partnership of Russia or an alliance with the United States.

"Our most pressing problem at the moment is to inflame the lagging militaristic spirit of the Americans. (The failure of the Universal Military Training Act was a great setback to our plans, but we are assured that a suitable measure will be rushed through Congress immediately after the 1952 elections.) The Russian as well as the Asiatic peoples, are well under control, and offer no objections to war, but we must wait to secure the Americans.

"This program will achieve its objective, the Third World War, which will surpass in destruction all previous contests. Israel, of course, will remain neutral, and when both sides are devastated and exhausted, we will arbitrate, sending our Control Commissions into all of the wrecked countries. This war will end for all time our struggle against gentiles. We will openly reveal our identity with the races of Asia and Africa. I can state with assurance that the last generations of white children are being born. Our Control Commissions will, in the interests of peace and wiping out inter-racial tensions, forbid whites to mate with whites. The white women must cohabit with members of the dark races, the white men with black women. Thus the white race will disappear, for mixing the dark with the white means the end of the white man, and our most dangerous enemy, will become only a memory.



GOPGeezer 2 Reviews 6566 reads
posted
2 / 23

About a week ago I was sitting in a sports bar when the local news was on and a big fat rosacea faced slob bellowed to his buddies 'I bet half the people on the city counsel are jews.'  Then he started whining about something else.
They don't affect me to much.  I just hope they smarten up some. But sometimes, I get riled up when someone who seems successful and intelligent starts ripping Israel or saying racist things.
Israel is our vital alliance in the region.  And Israel will take the gloves if those morons don't smarten up.

james86 47 Reviews 8010 reads
posted
3 / 23

it's about as stupid as most of the far Left crap posted here?  It is.  There.  Satisfied?

And every bit as anti-Semitic as those who rail against the "neo-cons," the new anti-Semitic code word for "Jew."

SULLY 24 Reviews 9396 reads
posted
4 / 23

While many of their views seem proto-fascist to both of US, I don't think these right wingers need be painted as anti-semitic.  Let's leave Funtime666 or whatever his name is in his own world and fight these guys on grounds they do believe in...

When FT666 posts, I DO wish Sam Kinnison were around to fight him-  you know he's be on this board!

BTW- I wonder if he avoids Jewish SPs?  Or does facializing a jewess  rock his world?

bribite 20 Reviews 9456 reads
posted
5 / 23

I adore Jewish woman,  and mature Jewish woman rock!  Then of course I am not an anti-Semite.  It's been 28 years since I was last in Israel, and with the Clubs in Tel Aviv and Haifa and the friendly Israeli women (as well as all Israelis), I think the providers were having a difficult time making ends meet.

BTW, (Back on Topic) since I know that Funtime69 might read this, Israel is not a religious state!  One person, one vote, (even Arab Muslims and Christians get their vote) and the constant change of power proves that fact!  David Ben-Gurion the father of modern Israel was a socialist and an atheist.

It is also worth mentioning that there is a large Muslim community in Israel coexisting peacefully with both religious and non-religious Jews.

Off Topic Again, Sully do you have any hot tips on any hot (mature) Jewess's in LA?   PM me!

SULLY 24 Reviews 9519 reads
posted
7 / 23

Sorry duder- not a VIP, nor do I know of any sisters who provide.

My ex would have been great at it-  a spinner, too, but she added about 100 pds after I bailed and is all mommy all the time...

zinaval 7 Reviews 8302 reads
posted
8 / 23

I think if the country went Nazi, I'd be in a concentration camp just for never noticing Jews.

/Zin

-- Modified on 7/2/2004 1:46:43 AM

funtime69 6 Reviews 7705 reads
posted
9 / 23

STilltryin25, whats with the obsession? Your in such a frenzy to get everyone to bash me. Could it be that is the best way to combat the truth, shout me down and encourage/drag others to do so also?

I have been rethinking my position on jews. Perhaps in the future, should I replace the word "jew" with "Zionist"? Jews against Zionism and other sites by Jews against Zionist actions seem to differentiate between the Zionist regime in Israel and America and regular Torah abiding Jews.
What do you think?

stilltryin25 16 Reviews 7708 reads
posted
10 / 23

conservative, if a moderate can validate you as such.
    Post well, post often.

stilltryin25 16 Reviews 10917 reads
posted
11 / 23

I think that you are a very intelligent person, that fact is obvious to me from reading some of your writing.  You mentioned zionists and pointed out that some Jewish people have a beef with zionists.  I can accept that premise since I have witnessed some of that myself.  But what I cannot accept are your broad based attacks on groups (government employees for example, with you implying that a disproportionate number are Jewish and are unduly influencing our national policies).  
    I will ask you, name ten jewish people who you admire.  They do not have to be famous, they can be neighbors, old professors, co-workers, someone who you met briefly, or politicians.  Please explain the reason why you admire each of them.  Maybe I have mis-cast you, although I doubt it, and your answer will show me up to be an assumptive asshole.
    As I said earlier, you appear to be very intelligent, but so was Hitler, so is Bin Laden and many of his cohorts, so was Stalin and as I read more statements by him from his trial hearing, so is Saddam Hussein.  I don't know whether you get my drift, but it is that very intelligent people can sometimes do great harm to humanity - you seem, to me, to be cut from that mode.
    The conservatives who I challenged probaly felt that I was attacking them, I was not, I was drawing them out so that I could get a better sense of whether they were "true" conservatives (ones who adhere to principles of limited govenment, fiscal discipline, and personal responsibility, to name some) or closet anti-semites who dislike people simply because of who they are.  All of them passed that test, some more powerfully than others.  Many, if not most, of my friends are principled conservatives.  I have as much fun with them as I have with friends who are principled liberals.
    I have read some of your other posts on issues like illegal immigration.  And while I agree with some of the basis upon which your views are anchored, I disagree sharply with the extent to which you take those views.
    You know, maybe I am a weirdo, I seek to first understand what I view as evil before going to battle against it - if I have to.  I would be neat if I could talk to Saddam Hussein to find out why he chose to bankrupt, and brutalize his people instead of taking the opposite path of using his country's great oil wealth to make Iraqis the envy of the world.  It would be interesting to talk to Bin Laden to see why he would turn sometimes legitimate displeasure at how muslims are sometimes treated into a tool for murdering innocent people who have not done him or muslims one second of harm and would not think of harming either.  I find the views that you have expressed to be abhorrent, but there is a part of me that would like to sit down, have a few drinks with you and talk to you to better understand why you feel the way you do.  I am confident that I would reject every view you hold dear, but understanding where you are coming from can make me wage war against you more effectively if circumstances came to that.
    I feel that your passion for the things that you believe in could be a powerful tool in making the world a better place if you would simply take time to listen to those who you disagree with (I feel hate, but as I said, I could be wrong) and incorporate some of the human aspirations that they have into your aspirations.  Maybe you will see that they want some of the very same things that you want and are not people who you should dislike or fear.

bribite 20 Reviews 9687 reads
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12 / 23

1.  Jesus
2.  Moses
3.  Dennis Praeger (Author.Radio Personality)
4.  Herman Wok (Author)
5.  Benjamin Netanyahu  (Past Prime Minister of Israel)
6.  Moshe Dyan  (Israeli politician and war hero)
7.  Ariel Sharon (Isreal's current Prime Minster)
8.  Sandy Koufax  (LA Dodger Great)
9.  Isak Perleman (Fiddle Player, extrodinaire)
10.  Albert Einstein  (Genius)
11.  David  (King of Israel - 1,000 BC, wrote most of Psalms)
12   Anne  Frank (Diarist)
13.  Saul of Tarsus (Saint Paul)  (Wrote much of the New Testament)
14.  George Gershwin  (Composer)
15   Jonas Salk  (Physican)
16.  Harry Houdini (Magician)
17.  Groucho Marx (Comedian)
18.  Steven Spielberg  (Motion Picture Director/Producer)
19.  Marc Chagall  (Painter)
20.  Saul Levine  (my next door neighbor/capitalist/father of 5)

Gave you 10 extra because I thought you might disqualify the dead ones!

P.S.  I'm not Jewish by faith or birth, Irish/catholic actually!

L'shalom!

Snowman39 9456 reads
posted
13 / 23

This is an escort board...

Offer him a couple of hundred bucks and get it out of your system.

Just a few points

1) I've already responded to this, don't like my answer, too bad.

2) I'll decide which battles I want to fight, not you

3) Why should I worry about some guy posting on a board about his theories on Jews when I've got the Senator from New York saying she is going to take away my money and redistribute it for the "common good" (based on her opinion!). I've got  bigger fish to fry...

zinaval 7 Reviews 8749 reads
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14 / 23
stilltryin25 16 Reviews 7656 reads
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15 / 23

and the total includes this one, are at the least confusing, at the worst asinine and idiotic.  But maybe I should not expect better from you at this point in time.

-- Modified on 7/4/2004 6:35:09 PM

Snowman39 11469 reads
posted
16 / 23

the hell are you talking about???

zinaval 7 Reviews 9376 reads
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17 / 23
zinaval 7 Reviews 8230 reads
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18 / 23

Apologies.  Difficult to keep these handles straight sometimes.

/Zin

stilltryin25 16 Reviews 7431 reads
posted
19 / 23

show his head and answer my questions posed in my post to him.  
    Snowboy, oops, Snowman, somehow mistook the post as being addressed to him :-), and suggested that I make Funtime an offer for gay sex, which even if either Funtime or me engaged in such activity, we would surely not want to get involved with each other in such a fashion.

zinaval 7 Reviews 7433 reads
posted
20 / 23

It's been on the fritz again.

So, here is an errata on my errata.  

The keyboard malfunction caused me to post a message to snowman39 rather than funlove69... Zinaval regrets this error.

The keyboard also caused an unfortunate misprinting funtime69's handle in the previous errata... I did not mean to imply by this that funtime69 is anything like a computer worm....Zinaval regrets this error.

Of course, I am posting all this on the Errata Review?  Rite?

Nevermind.  I'll have a new keyboard tomorrow, and my posts will appear intelligent again.

:-D
 
/Zin

funtime69 6 Reviews 10528 reads
posted
21 / 23

Snowboy, oops, Snowman, somehow mistook the post as being addressed to him :-), and suggested that I make Funtime an offer for gay sex, which even if either Funtime or me engaged in such activity, we would surely not want to get involved with each other in such a fashion.


Actually Stilltryin, I think you have a great sense of humor. Your statement the other day; "maybe he didn't mean for it to read that way was some funny stuff".

funtime69 6 Reviews 7294 reads
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22 / 23

10 Jewish people I admire;

Tchaikovsky- I like classical music

Gershwin-"""

Einstein-Space-Time continuum, Gravitation, and Relativity

Garry Kimovich Kasparov AKA; Gary Weinstein- The youngest person ever to win the world chess championship. He also defeated the computer from IBM, Big Blue.

Menachem Begin- sort of, he was a killer, he was responsible for the Deir Yassin massacre, but he also tried to negotiate real peace with palestine before he waw killed by his own kind.

Jennifer Aniston- for obvious reasons...

Thats it... I could name a few other actresses such as Sara jessica parker, for the same reason as Aniston....but no actors, Schwimmer, Seinfeild, Sandler, Kimmel, Klein ect..


"I find the views that you have expressed to be abhorrent, but there is a part of me that would like to sit down, have a few drinks with you and talk to you to better understand why you feel the way you do.  I am confident that I would reject every view you hold dear, but understanding where you are coming from can make me wage war against you more effectively if circumstances came to that."


With all due respect Stilltryin, we are already at war. Your people (assuming your Jewish) have been at war with my people (men women and children of non jewish european decent) for some time. Most of my people are not aware of it,asthere caught up in all the consumerism and other toxic ways to pass there time on this planet...The rest are just stupid.


"You mentioned zionists and pointed out that some Jewish people have a beef with zionists.  I can accept that premise since I have witnessed some of that myself.  But what I cannot accept are your broad based attacks on groups (government employees for example, with you implying that a disproportionate number are Jewish and are unduly influencing our national policies"


"Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it." - Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001, to Shimon Peres, as reported on Kol Yisrael radio.
Care to explain this loving comment by our "greatest ally".


Or this;
One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail." -- Rabbi Yaacov Perrin, Feb. 27, 1994 [Source: N.Y. Times, Feb. 28, 1994, p. 1]

These same people started the Naacp. ADL,Southern Poverty Law Center and other human righs groups, yet they don't practice (in Israel) what they preach in America.. The word hypocritical comes to mind.

I don't want war. However, I may eventually have no choice but to fight fire with fire.

I will say that I respect you, I respect anyone for trying and you specifically,for trying to reach out to me. I also want to like you. I want to like everyone, as is my nature. I also have a backbone, I CAN'T STAND FOR IT WHEN i see people screwing up my country and in the process screwing my people.

You mentioned Immigration. I want to say that I actually like some of these illegal invaders as I have interacted with some. Some are nice people who mean well, but I also feel they are taking advantage of our generosity and will eventually take this country over by there sheer numbers. This has to be addressed and curbed immediately. I don't say this out of hatred for Mexicans and other Illegals, but as love for my country and people. I love my country and people more than i LIKE these invaders. Blood is thicker than water.

stilltryin25 16 Reviews 9559 reads
posted
23 / 23

Number one, I am not Jewish.  My roots as a christian born person almost surely run as deep if not deeper than yours.  Hell, I never knew that there were Jewish people until I got to High School.  In the new testament driven world of my youth, people who you would call Jews were called "Israelites".  
    BTW, I am the "black sheep" in my family in that I am the only one not born again.  I have two siblings who are ordained ministers and one nephew who is.  My sisters can bible-thump with the best.  So it is unlikely that I will have a conversation about hobbying with any of them.
    Your start on your post was reasonably good start in that you seemed to have understood the Jews are an integral part of what I will call "humanity" and as such have made significant contributions to the betterment of humanity.  But then you took a seemingly sharp turn into irrational theories and accusations.
    The thing that I see from reading your posts is that you are an intelligent person, who althought you seem to read a slant into it, do appear to read fairly broadly the vehicles of human thought such as literature.  I guess given my background, I could have taken the same path that you seem hellbent on adhering to.  But for some grace, I did not and am now more than willing to stand against people who think as you do.  I think that the reason why I did not go down the path that you take is that I try to counterbalance my irritation with an individual with the knowledge that all who share a trait with that person is not necessarily like him or her - this counterbalancing is something that I think you lack and as a consequence, I think that your lack of it reduces you acceptance of other people's humanity.

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