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Where will the money come from???
Snowman39 5774 reads
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With the loss of the House seat in New York, it seems apparent that many Americans love to talk about a balanced budget, but are not really willing to do anything about it.

I actually find this frigtening. When the majority of this country becomes so dependent on the government, how will we sustain it?

We see all over Europe where they are having to scale back. We see Greece slipping into oblivian.

I would ask this question to my liberal colleagues on this board? Where will the money come from?

Yes, you can raise taxes on the rich, yes, you can raise corporate taxes, but both of these measures would not even cover the budget, much less start addressing the debt?

SO WHERE WILL IT COME FROM? I feel confident in saying that we are in an insustainable state, and the longer we put off the corrections that must be done, the worse it will be.

I HAVE SEEN THE REPUBLICANS PUT FORWARD SOME IDEAS, NOW I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR SOME FROM THE OTHER SIDE....

St. Croix1340 reads

so the respondents can be very specific in their responses.

2011 budget is $3.8T. Revenue is estimated to be in the $2.5T to $2.6T range, hence how to cover a $1.2T to $1.3T deficit. Expect this level of deficits for the foreseeable future. If we revert to the Clinton era tax rates on the top rates only, per Obama, we would realize $70B a year in additional revenue. Growth rates, specifically GDP are anticipated to be in the 2-3% range for the foreseeable future. 2011 is projected to be closer to 2%.

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inicky46929 reads


"You will get a SERIOUS reply from me...
Snowman39
when you ppost something that truly warrants debate and is not just left wing dribble...

Why do I sense A LOT of sarcastic remarks in your future."

DITTO for your Right Wing dribble.
(and I am not your "colleague.")
Expect more of the same, snowclown.  Sarcasm works both ways.

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Snowman391123 reads

That is the element you miss....

I like good sarcasm, but there has GOT to be an element of humor, or its just silly remarks (like your post here).

Me indicating your support the tea party when it is blantantly obviously you never would is humor (if I say so myself).

The Phrase "Bwaaahahahaha", does not constitute humor in any fashion.

If you want to "return fire", by all means, but do us all a favor and at least make it worth the time of opening up the post, not dribble like this one you just posted...

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inicky461231 reads

Snow, you wouldn't know "humor" or "sarcasm" if they bit you on the ass.  As for "dribble," perhaps you meant "drivel."  But it's clear your posts suffer from not being re-read by you before you send them.  As for "Bwaahahaha," I just call that a sound effect.  Never said it constitutes "humor." But you, as usual, will argue the most trivial points and offer up red herring arguments.  You are not worth the time it takes to post, hence I will just ignore you.

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mattradd922 reads

"So dependent on the government," but you are just too blind to see it. Unless you live on a ranch or farm, and completely self-sufficient, you rely on the government for most every thing in your life. I spent time on a ranch in the remote Bitteroot mountain ranch in Idaho. It was completely self-sufficient. Yet, it was a homestead, thus my relatives relied on the government's good graces to make the land available for such. And, the one lane dirt road that served as access to all the ranches in the valley was made by the Army Corp of Engineers, and maintained by the U.S. Forestry Service. And, the minimal electric service and party-line phone; it's installation up and down the valley by the utility companies, was subsidized by the government. Well, a guess we were relatively self-sufficient.

Point I'm making; we are all very much dependent on the government.

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anonymousfun1491 reads

If you think what republicans put forward ideas, you don't have clue. Get this, national budgets are not analogues to Balancing your check, paying your credit card or your mortgage. Some people call these people who promise you plan to pay of your 30 mortgage in 10, republican plan is exactly like it.

National budgets are incredibly complex especially the largest national budget on the planet. Republicans have stupified the budget so, stupid people can understand.

FYI, President Obama has put forward budget, and you don't consider them ideas because it is not stupified!

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PitchingWedge1250 reads

above post????

At least he warns us in the subject line of his post.  We read it and we truly "don't know" what the hell he is trying to say . . . .

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St. Croix1088 reads

This is typical AF gibberish. His posts make absolutely no sense. Best guess is that AF forgot to take his medication, which if I was a betting man, it would be Ritalin.

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inicky461591 reads

OK, here goes.  What AF wants to say is that national budgets are much more complex than just balancing your checkbook.  Further, that Republicans have dumbed down the debate to the point where many people really think it's that simple.  Last, read Obama's budget if you want a truly sensible approach.
How's that?  Please explain what this means if I understood?  My guess is, it's a bad thing.  And, no, I am not on Ritalin.

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PitchingWedge1285 reads

stupefied . . . . . .

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inicky461543 reads

It just takes one to know one?

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anonymousfun1278 reads

Try balancing your check book over the weekend. Not a penny difference between what the says and your check book says. You may use Quicken. Once you accomplish that, I shall try to explain.

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St. Croix1471 reads




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Timbow1835 reads

Posted By: anonymousfun


FYI, President Obama has put forward budget, and you don't consider them ideas because it is not stupified!



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inicky461044 reads

It was a meaningless procedural vote and part of the DC shell game, not a defeat for Obama.

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Timbow1335 reads



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inicky461040 reads

And that the vote on the Ryan plan was political posturing to force Republicans to vote for it and give the Democrats something to bash them with at home.  All of it was political theater.

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Timbow1073 reads

Posted By: inicky46
And that the vote on the Ryan plan was political posturing to force Republicans to vote for it and give the Democrats something to bash them with at home.  All of it was political theater.
I well  know how all that works  but mine was to   ;)
Posted By: anonymousfun


FYI, President Obama has put forward budget, and you don't consider them ideas because it is not stupified!

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BreakerMorant1145 reads

until you run out of money". If everyone is working for the government who is going to be left to pay for all the programs.

In the Sacramento Bee the 1000 highest paid local government workers earned over 171 million dollars last year. That's not including the pension the taxpayers are on obligated to pay. For example The City of Rocklin manager with a formula of 2 percent at 55 means at age 63 with 25 years of service the taxpayers of Rocklin will have to pay him $200,000 a year for the rest of his life.

Related Link: Sacramento's 1000 highest paid local gov't workers

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inicky46982 reads

“It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried.”

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