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Trump's thumper Pence is the first sitting V.P. to address...
BigPapasan 3 Reviews 5454 reads
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...the March for Life.  There have been other veeps and presidents who were religious and were pro life but they never spoke at the March for Life.  Let's see GaG say: "Oh, Trump's not even all that Republican" when Trump's being led around by the nose by the thumper wing of his party.

...because you're 65.  You better take a nap, gramps...and renew your membership in AARP.

Have you found "a real GFE who is OK with an older gent" yet?  Probably not, since you haven't posted a review in over six years.

Dude, you thought you were old when you were 56.  You must think you're decrepit now.  

...Well BP I am older than Hitler's desert fox & Iv'e often gotten complements from GFE providers, even some of the younger providers say they like older guys because they are willing share the pleasure instead of just getting themselves off, or maybe it's because I just paid them for fucking their brains out.

stucaboy348 reads

on the blacks the minute the election is over, the GOP is growing its base. They figured out how to win the election without getting the majority of the votes. Some DEMs still don't admit they lost let alone figure out why and how to fix their problem.  Some members of this board are still tracking the former POTUS approval ratings while he is playing golf on Trumps courses.  I don't blame him for hiding.  If I spent the last two weeks of the election helping Hilda measure curtains in the White House, while watching Trump endlessly jet to his peeps, I'd be hiding.

I fail to see that logic.

Half the country now considers itself "pro-life" so that is WAY more than just "thumpers". Many Democrats are pro-life as well BP.

Mike Pence had the courage of his convictions and chose not to just talk the talk as he walked the walk today.

Don't you wish pussy liberals had that courage when it comes to telling the public the truth that GW carbon taxes will make their gas, oil and utilities all go up?

He believes they have a "right to life" and not have their bodies ripped a part in the womb.  

Abortion ends a human life. Is this an inconvenient truth for you?

...truth for Republicans?  Syrians are being killed but Republicans turn a blind eye to those human lives.  Is that an inconvenient truth for you?  Why are Republicans only concerned with unborn lives, but after they're born, they don't give a shit about them?  If Republicans are so concerned about stopping abortion, why are they against sex education and, most importantly, CONTRACEPTION?

Now you are just talking out your ass.

Republicans give TONS of money to women who keep their child. Southern Baptists, Catholics, etc have outreach to just those women you describe and most of that money comes from R's. Adoption is another avenue they are heavily involved in.

No need to paint with a broad brush and speak in absolutes. Republicans in general are not against sex education. Not sure where you got that one from and they aren't against contraception either.  

They ARE typically against mandates to pay for others contraception however and they may be against it personally which is their right, is it not?

...give a shit about children after they're born, you cite religious organizations.  You know damn well I was referring to Republican POLITICIANS.  Okay, Mr. Pretend-I-Don't-Know, what do the compassionate Conservative Republican POLITICIANS do for kids, other than cut welfare and food stamps?

Republican POLITICIANS aren't against sex education?
House Republicans Sneak Sex-Ed Restriction Into ‘No Child Left Behind’ Rewrite
http://rewire.news/article/2015/07/08/house-republicans-sneak-sex-ed-restriction-child-left-behind-rewrite/

Republican POLITICIANS aren't against birth control?
The so-called "Republican" Catholic Church isn't against birth control???????????????????????????????????
http://www.politicususa.com/2015/06/20/religious-house-republicans-plan-deny-contraception-access-4-6-women.html

Did I REALLY need to put a link to show Republicans are against contraception?  Now go ahead and tell me that Republicans aren't against contraception; tell me they're against PAYING for contraception.  A distinction without a difference.  They don't want to pay for contraception for a poor woman who can't afford it.  Then they don't want the poor woman to get an abortion.  Then they don't want to pay for the food and shelter after the fetus they love so much is born into the world.

Who's talking out of who's ass?

You do realize VERY Conservative/Republican schools (i.e. private schools) TEACH sex education, don't you? So that destroys that WHOLE argument.

So tell me how Republicans are against sex ed again? LOL

...still won't prove that the Republican PARTY isn't against sex education.  I showed you my link that they were trying to kill sex education:

http://rewire.news/article/2015/07/08/house-republicans-sneak-sex-ed-restriction-child-left-behind-rewrite/

Where's your proof that the Republican PARTY is not against sex education?

Keep up the dodging; you may be up for a starring role in the sequel:

JakeFromStateFarm259 reads

You are entitled to YOUR belief and if you want to go through the charade of burying YOUR fetus, go for it.  Just don't tell me I've got to bury mine.
As far as I'm concerned abortion is no one's business but the person in whose womb the fetus is.  If you have some primitive religious belief that the thing is a human life and therefore sacred, fine.  Just don't tell me I've got to believe such tripe.
And don't tell me human life is sacred.  The human race has a LONG history -- right up to the present -- of treating human life as worthless trash.  Watched any footage from Syria?  And what about all the many parts of the world where there are no cameras? The human race has some wonderful qualities, but it ain't even close to being sacred.  It certainly doesn't treat itself that way.
Give it a rest, Jack.  Or limit your blatherings to Jack's Philosophy 101 @JDU.com

I ASSume you believe abortions should be legal until one second prior to birth. That's your call.

I believe life begins earlier than that. I, and the other pro-life people, have a constitutional right to make change through the legislature and or the courts, as pro-choicers had the right to fight to make abortion legal in the first place.

I would not want Trump or Pence or anyone to dictate to people what they can or cant do on abortion. As long as they go through the Democratic process however, they are on solid ground in America and in my mind.

Roe v Wade was horrendous law. Abortion is not dealt with in the constitution so therefore I believe it is a states rights issue.

Personhood, and when it begins, is a valid discussion/debate that can and should occur in a democracy. As the technology has changed to look into the womb, it has convinced many people that the "fetus" is indeed a person complete with brain wave activity and a heart beat. I am one of those people.

If that is indeed the case, that "person" should be given the "right to life" just as any child that is 5 seconds post birth.

As far as giving it a rest, you sound like Bannon. lol

And FWIW, I NEVER bring this topic up and hardly post on it. It is almost always liberals here who mention abortion and I push back from time to time.

Deal with it Jake. ;)

JakeFromStateFarm344 reads

And, no, I won't "deal with it."  Because you are trying to force me to accept YOUR religiously-based bullshit on how I and others should live our lives.  You, of course, are free to do it your way.  What about that is too complex for your pea brain to comprehend?
And your view of the "democratic process" is laughable.  So if our freely-elected representatives decreed that everyone who claimed to be an atheist should be executed, that would make it OK?  I think that's why we have the Supreme Court: to decide if the Congress and President (the other co-equal branches) acted consistently with the Constitution.
I am relying on the Court to preserve the precedent of Roe v. Wade.
If not, some of us will pay to bring anyone wishing a legal abortion to NY, CA, MA and many, many other states to flush their feti down the toilet.  And all you right-to-life pukes can suck on it.

Had you actually read my post you would have seen me say the COURTS Jake. Go back and look. It's there, I swear!

Your anger on this issue is giving you reading comprehension problems.

Pro-choicers have every right to take their case to SCOTUS and so do pro-lifers.

THAT'S the system Jake. Suck it.

saltyballs401 reads

He gets a 10/10 on the Bullshit meter for posting that nonsense!

...As I said, veeps & presidents speaking in person at the March for Life is UNPRECEDENTED.  Just as with Bush-Cheney, Pence is calling the shots.

Does Trump REALLY strike you as the guy that lets others "call the shots?" What happened to the left's dictator comparisons? LOL

What is more likely is that Pence, when he signed on, expressed to Trump how important this issue is with him and if Trump needed him as part of the ticket, his pro-life activities would follow.

I just don't think Trump cares that much either way about abortion so he let Pence run with this.

Kudos to both.

...but Mad Dog and Gen. Kelly are against torture.  Trump said "torture works."  He  backed waterboarding and "much worse" but now the chickenshit draft dodger is letting real soldiers who actually know what they're talking about call the shots.  He's the supposed Commander-in-Chief but the draft-dodging Pussy-in-Chief defers to his underlings...same as he did with his thumper veep.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-says-torture-works-backs-waterboarding-and-much-worse/2016/02/17/4c9277be-d59c-11e5-b195-2e29a4e13425_story.html?utm_term=.c9991e0486ab

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I support the right for all  citizens in America  to assemble and preach their beliefs, from sea to shiny sea, whether I agree with their opinion or not.
   There are tens of millions of pro life men and women who have just as much right  to speak as abortion advocates.
   When you attempt to stifle opposing voices in America you will only make them stronger.  
   
  I support V.P Pence for expressing his beliefs in solidarity with  women who yearn for their  
   voice to be heard and counted.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/01/27/march-for-life-womens-march-anti-abortion-left-out/97145694/
 
   If you are truly concerned  abortion will become illegal under President Trump's administration, don't fear, I will personally guarantee you are wrong.  
      When  you become pregnant and abortion is not legal I'll gladly pay an underground
    Dr. of your choice to abort your worries.  
     
      Until then, try to chill, don't fret over issues not part of your life when you have absolutely no  control over the outcome.  
    I do find it amusing watching you stomp your heels.  
   
   
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/01/27/march-for-life-womens-march-anti-abortion-left-out/97145694/

Mr.M.Johnson255 reads

I'll also pay for someone's abortion.  For you Pro Lifers, will you sign-up to adopt an unwanted kid??

GaGambler336 reads

especially where it comes to the likes of fg, LTM, FatVern et al.

and yes, I would be more than happy to chip in for it.

Mr.M.Johnson429 reads

There might be hope for you guys after all!  

My Ex came close to aborting our 3rd.  Note that I said "my Ex," not "we."   When it got down to decision time I realized that it's her body, her decision - yeah, I was interested (obviously), but I left it 100% up to her.

Pro Lifers have "balls" to dictate their (religious) beliefs to pregnant women - what gives you fuckers the right??

GaGambler244 reads

and Trump now that he is a Republican and got voted in as a Republican is not exactly going to start preaching "Freedom of Choice" to his base, but I am not going to get too bent out of shape about what Pence does on this front unless and until Trump starts losing focus on the economy, terrorism, tax reform and getting rid of Obamacare to focus on social issues like Gay Marriage and Freedom (or lack thereof) of Choice.

Let Mike Pence run around supporting traditional right wing causes and let Trump do what Trump does and I will be just fine with it. Trump is still tweeting away every day and still issuing and undoing executive orders every day, has TRUMP been lifting a finger trying to undo Roe v Wade, Same Sex Marriage or any other typical right wing, thumper cause? When he does, let me know and I'll join you in criticizing him for it.

Mr.M.Johnson343 reads

when he nominates a purely Pro Lifer to be a Supremer.  This'll be 1st test of Dems filibustering.

It's already obvious that the fucking Republicans have no idea/clue how to replace ObamaCare.  Trump says "TrumpCare will be great and cheaper and everyone will have it.   And, I promise, "I won't cum in your mouth"

It's time for the fucking Republicans to govern instead of being the party of "No, fuck no, no fucking way."  No excuses fucking Republicans, you control House, Senate and you have MAGA Trump.

JakeFromStateFarm333 reads

As you said, we all knew what his views were.  What concerns me is who Trump nominates to the SCOTUS.  I guess I could live with Gorsuch, if only barely.  But this isn't the key nomination because it will only return the balance of the court to the way it was when that toad Scalia was undead.  The one that REALLY will count is if one of the current liberal judges retires or dies, such as The Notorious RBG.  Then it's filibuster time and it will be interesting to see how Schumer plays it.

GaGambler237 reads

This first SCOTUS pick might not be the key one, but it "might" be the one where the Dems can claim the high ground after the Reps wouldn't even hold a hearing on Garland.  They might threaten to drag this out until 2020, or 2018 if they win back the Senate if Trump doesn't give in and pick someone the Dems can live with.

OTOH Trump might choose to keep his campaign promise and nominate a far right justice for his first pick, but then exercise his own free will after he's been in office a few years and won't lose as much political capital by picking a moderate. He really has no choice but to "pander to his base" on this first pick, it remains to be seen how the Dems deal with it.

Mr.M.Johnson293 reads

per year in the U.S.  Do you Pro Lifers honestly seriously think you're gonna stop this???

Pro Choice:

Normal: Save Woman, Save Child.
Problem:  Try to save Child but save woman.
Critical:  Child is not normal and will be born with disabilities and birth defects.   Save woman, let go of child.
Serious:  woman's life in danger, child has serious disabilities and possible birth defects.   Save woman, let go of child

Pro Life:

Normal: Save woman, Save Child
Problem:  Try to save child
Critical:  Child is not normal and will be born with disabilities and birth defects.   Save child let go of woman.
Serious:  woman's life in danger, child has serious disabilities and possible birth defects.   Save child, let go of woman.

Only an extremely tiny percentage of pro-life people believe that a mother's right to self-defense of her life should not be recognized. It's is also recognized regardless the health status of the child.

...Thanks h2h for that analogy, my personal opinion is to keep government both state & federal out of a women's private body decisions, Thump's SCOTUS pick will doubtlessly be a man & men should not be the ones to decide what a woman doe's with her body. I believe birth control methods like condoms or birth control pills should taught & distributed through the schools along with HVP & HIV safety. I do believe that women should supported & receive free prenatal health care until the child is born.

pot/kettle270 reads

Your comments on your "Pro-Life" section are so false that not even the current White House press office could try to make them sound true.

But nonsense like this is fully expected from you.

earlweaver257 reads

infanticide is infanticide

even if pussies like you want to rename it to make the horror less horrible

like words can do that

I choose to call it what it is

killing human beings, babies

legalized murder

but I am ok with it if infanticide meets a societal need

like making less losers for us to feed

gender selection - we have enough girls (lib "men" ensure that) - they never select girls to save

or for self-selected genocide - shit, blacks vote FOR it

I guess BLM doesn't

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