Ahh, after the short thread on Bill Cosby and his hypocrisy surfaced here, it seems his hypocrisy is really revealed.

Here is the guy who claims the moral high ground but is now alleged to be a rapist. Call it sexual assault. whatever.

Just goes to show you, that those who whine the most usually are the worst offenders of that which they rant about.

Doesn't he look alot like Farrakhan in the picture?

I'm not a Cosby fan, but by calling him a rapist, I think you completely invalidate any criticisms you lodged against Ashcroft regarding due process.

. . . to use the word  . . . ALLEGED.....TWICE in my post.

Did you miss it?

Unlike Ashcroft, I believe in innocent till proven guilty. You ARE aware that Ashcroft advocates holding people, without due process such as an attorney, habeas corpus, or lifetime detention without charges being filed?  

The allegations are under investigation.

If you truley believed in innocence before guilt was established, why did you use symantically negative terms like hypocrite?

Your post had  what some might consider to be racist comments (the visciousness of your descriptions and the comparison to Farahkan imply a racial hatred for blacks).



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They love to confuse the point by picking apart every word -- they learned well from Rush, Hannity, "O'Reilly crowd.

Don't worry, we got your point and it is a good one  -- the hippocracy is all over the place with these people.... Rush (Drug Addict & Married, what 4 times?), O'Rielly, (Sexual Harrasser)...we should start a contest and tally up which side has been caught being "immoral" the most -- I guarantee you it is the Republicans.

Plus, look at all these guys on this board -- they are Republicans. thier party preaches all this moralists, holier than thou stuff --  marriage, monogomy, no Janet Jacksons Breast, no "pretent" flashing a BA,  no showing of a breast on a statue (like Asahcroft covered up) yada yada, yada, yada -- yet they have the biggest mouths on this board. How hippocritical is that?

Keep postin MissDemeanor. Your posts are great. We like them. Just ignor these guys.

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you disagree.  That absent parents are not good for black children, or any other children?  That a black so-called leadership which focuses upon entitlement rather than hard work and achievement causes more harm than good?  That "black culture" champions mediocrity and resentment, rather than hard work and achievement?

Is it that you don't like his criticism against irresponsibility and skewed values?  Do you disagree with his critique of irresponsible spending habits?  Do you think that we should celebrate, and not mock, the scrupulous inability to communicate in comprehensible English?  And do you believe that a contrived affinity for a continent which, for many black Americans, is more distantly removed than Europe is for white Americans is healthy for black Americans?   Perhaps you don't like the way he mocked nonsensical "fashion statements" such as pants with waists falling below the crack of the wearer's ass?

How does this charge, even if proven true, make Cosby a hypocrite?

Or is this simply a means to attack someone who is resisting the nihilism of the far Left (which, for the far Left, by definition makes him someone on the "right wing," even though I've never heard Cosby's politics identified), which seeks to destroy virtually every non-government institution of society?

I suspect that this is more of a rhetorical question.

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The worst thing about people like her is this. These people Cosby and other's like him are talking about have REAL problems that, frankly, calling them DEEP is an understatement.
Anyone who has spent 5 minutes trying to solve the problems of the poor and have felt the crush of their problems would not be so quick to dismiss the truthful elements of what Cosby has to say just to pacify their OWN ego gratification about right wing/left wing bullshittery.

I have real comtempt for such dismissals.

the man who pushed women's rights and then fondled the hired help (and did a lot more than that)

Thanks NOSC for your response. I respect your points. And especially your common courtesy. You do point out my weakest assertion. That is very good critical thinking. No slam, just a fair rebuttal

I did again qualify my assertion that those who whine the most USUALLY are the worst offenders. My only support for this is of course anecdotal.

Rush Limbaugh
Bill O'Reilly
Oral Roberts
Bill Bennett
Jimmy Swaggart
Mary Tyler Moore

Are just a few who have clearly illustrated their hypocrisy when it comes to social justice or causes.

This of course does not prove Cosby is guilty of sexaul assault. It is just another straw on the camel's back.

...and let's keep the topic on hypocrisy?

Thanks for making it about me and proving you can't or are unable defend the hypocrisy.

You consistently missed the point. Cosby and people like Cosby have a self righteous attitude that prevents them from seeing the lodge pole in their own eye.

THAT is the issue, NOT the content of Cosby's preaching.

Obsessed with Clintn Disorder.

You still haven't troubled yourself to explain how a charge like this demonstrates "hypocrisy" about the points that Cos has been making.

And while I would endorse the criticisms rendered by others (God forbid you should be held to standards of literacy and logical consistency!), the fundamental flaw in your assertion is that this charge, even if true, demonstrates "hypocrisy," and apparently, thus undermines the points made by Cosby.

Simply put, it does no such thing.

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Did you hear?  Provider XXX barebacks lots of clients.  I think she does it to make guys into regulars.  She is always claiming the moral high ground about safe sex but now she is alleged to BB guys and tell each of them they are the only one.  Who knows why anybody would do anything like that, but it isn't good for the client, the other providers the clients see, or their wives or families.

Have you ever noticed how people who take moral high ground positions often don't follow the rules they set out for everyone else.

Obviously, I don't know this firsthand, but that is what I hear.  No, I can't tell you about who told me -- sworn to secrecy and all that.  But I think that it's important that people hear what might be going on.  You will have to decide for yourself what is correct -- the truth is probably somewhere in the middle.

Another name for this technique is "TV Cable News Reporting"

Harry

 

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YOU made it about him and now you don't want it made "about you"???

LOL

"similarly strong accusations"  implies the Jackson/Cosby case was about sexual assault. It was NOT. It was a paternity case, where Bill Cosby ADMITTED he committed adultery. And yes Jackson was convicted of extortion. Cosby was paying Jackson's family MONEY to support her.

Thank you for proving Cosby's family values advocay is indeed hypocritical.

Unless of course conservative family values include adultery. But then maybe they do seeing conservative leaders like O'REilly and Gingrich.

Thus hippocracy. Is it really that hard to understand?

Case in point: Your presence on THIS BOARD!

You accuse someone of hypocrisy with no factual evidence, merely allegations.

Were I to use YOUR tactics, I would accuse YOU of being a racist whore, HOWEVER....let's look at THE FACTS about you, before we stay with MY accusation.

1. We know you are using an alias, therefore, we cannot be sure if you are a male or feamle, provider or customer. The "WHORE" aspect is irrelevant until that information is correctly determined.

2. You seem to have some personal axe to grind against Bill Cosby, calling him names and comparing him to Farahkhan (sp)-this makes you appear to be prejudiced. However, as in the first point, we do not know who you are, therefore we cannot know if perhaps you have a more personal connection with Cos, or you're just spouting extreme leftist rhetorical bullshit.

There's an old saying about how when you point a finger at someone be very careful, since you have three fingers pointing at yourself (for the leftist/secularist/anti-religious asswipes, it's a derivation on Christ's statments about he who is without sin).

Personally, I prefer the other answer I used to see here- Just STFU

There is a huge market for the purveyers of inuendo.  

Although I thought "Fahrenheit 451" was an entertaining film in its own way, it was also full of inuendo.

Fahrenheit 451 was based on the Ray Bradbury novel, so what innuendoes are you referring to?  I thnk you've confused this movie with Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 9/11.

You're not? Are you left?

Might I suggest you consider forgoing the left and right sides altogether and consider instead joining the Dark Side™? When I take over the world I'm going to need an Evil Queen and even though you might not be evil, I think think you'd look quite lovely in our PR photos.

Would you be comfortable saying things like, "Throw him to the dogs?"

book-burners.

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