I always felt that way, ya know..facts don't mean shit. So trump supporter, am I wrong? An let's not state the obvious color contrast. Lay it on me..I'm not moderated here, I post it goes...lol

What Kellyanne Conwoman once called "alternative facts." The ones supplied by Trump and his flacks, Hannity, Limbaugh, etc. Said "facts" are also known by the terms "bullshit, lies and damned lies."

And you think they are Trump supporters? Did you PUI?

very carefully, grasshopper.  The poster suggested, he was not "focusing" on color.  Any intelligent, fair minded person, would easily conclude, he was referring to mind set.

 
The OP, in a nut shell, was implying those who believed OJ was innocent, share the same mind set, Trump supporters are burdened with.

 
Please try to use the third grade reading skill, commonly called inference.  Not a very complicated matter, honestly.

 
Your turn.

Hope you do better with the ladies......fucking with you...READ!!!

I read it just fine but your premise was so incredibly faulty, I took it on and crushed it. The racial aspect I mentioned destroyed your point, so that is why you didn’t want it discussed. Duh.

 
You basically said, “class, what is 3 plus two…but you CANT say five!” That's just dumb hyper, but I can see why Dunce bought into it. LOL

 
Now moving on...tell us which Trumps supporters here are OJ supporters. If your theory is correct, this should be easy to to do.

 
Let me help you with your survey. I support Trumps policies but I am not an OJ supporter.  So far you are 0-1 but I await your completed poll with great eagerness.

 
You really should have went with "Yeah Jack, I PUI'd." lol

But I got his point rather easily.  Those who lack the ability of critical and abstract thinking, like most Trump supporters would have a problem with it.  To use a term originally applied to Steve Jobs, (but in a much different manner)  it’s a reality distortion field that clouds the typical Trump supporter into believing they are not being conned and ripped off.

sell yourself short.  Am new here and have not read any of your other posts, but this one spells it out rather clearly and is in total alignment with something I posted just a moment ago.

 
The question is, are they REALLY misguided by Trump's distortion of reality?   Or, are they just as corrupt as he is and complicit in all he does?

He has reduced my taxes

 
He has reduced regulations on my businesses

 
He has appointed right wingers to the judiciary

 
Destroyed the ISIS caliphate

 
Restored our relationship with Israel

 
 GDP is up

 
Wages are up

 
Quality jobs are up

 
Utility bills are down

 
Consumer optimism is up

 
Business optimism is up

 
Soleimani is dead

 
60% of the people say they are better off under Trump than Obama

 
3 out of 4 Americans say the economy is good or great

 
90% of people are happy in their persona lives

 
Sorry Jinx. I don't feel conned or ripped off. I am delighted as to what has actually happened under this POTUS as opposed to all the basket of horribles the libs predicted would happen under a Trump admin.

You have 10+ reviews. That's a fact and you know it.
How do I know that ?.....you are so smart you figure it out.  

 
Do I know your real TER handle ?  

 
I know you do not have the courage to reply , just giving you something to think about

 
You're Welcome

finds an acorn, once-in-a-while.  So not all of what you claim could possibly be false.  But your batting average is not very good.

 
PLUS any claim you make about the economy rests solely on he foundation the previous administration bravely built, in the face of hard core political zealots who were out to obstruct, no matter the damage to the American people.

 
Will definitely give you props, though.  P.T. Barnum would be quite proud of you!  You have taken Trump's bait and swallowed hook, line, AND sinker.

 
Good for you, you ARE good at something!

Giving any president credit (or blame) for the economy while he is in office needs specific justifying evidence.  Otherwise it amounts to nothing more than a post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy.
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But good luck with that.  Peruse the Internet and there are learned treaties on both sides of whether stimulus packages work or not -- many pointing out that Obama had the weakest economic recovery from a recession in history.

I am sure you saw the vid I posted about his "shovel ready jobs" fiasco. lol

 
Dunce will have no answers as to any real growth policies under Obama because, being a community organizer, he didnt understand the economy and what incentivizes job creators like myself.

 
Libs will run to "but Jack, JACK, the economy didnt fall into a depression! What about that Jack?????"

 
And the obvious answer is you cant prove a negative but that wont stop the Left from implying so. Even if he did, and I must admit it is certainly possible his actions helped in that endeavor, what does that have to do with growth?

 
Saving the economy from economic peril is not even close to allowing it to thrive.

 
Trump put in common sense economic polices which have spurred job creators and given us confidence to take out loans, build out our business, take on more salary, increase current salary, hand out bigger bonuses, etc

 
So those policy achievements are not JUST seen in the economic data but the polling of the actual people whose lives are benefiting them.

 
I sit on a business board in the one town where one of my business is located. Made up of mostly Republicans and Independents but there are several liberal guys there as well. Good guys, friends of mine.

 
They cant stand Trump and all his shenanigans. They voted for Hillary. But ask them if they want a change at POTUS based on economic reasons and they would ALL say no. FUCK NO, to be more accurate.

 
There are reasonable liberals out there that understand how Washington DC policy can affect their business; sadly people like Obama and Once are not among them.

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He has reduced my taxes  

###. Not mine,  They went up as they did for over 10 million middle class Americans, mostly in California and New York’
 
He has reduced regulations on my businesses  
 ### At the cost of environmental and consumer protections.  His record on construction safety has put us back to the 19th Century.  
 
He has appointed right wingers to the judiciary  
 ### Many of whom were found unqualified by the ABA.  Is it really good for Americans to to have incompetent judges?
 
Destroyed the ISIS caliphate  
###. Not true.  The Kurds did that for us under agreements with the Obama administration.  Trump fucked them and it looks like Syria and Turkey are going to war.  Trump has made things worse.
   
Restored our relationship with Israel  
 ###. There was never anything wrong with our relationship with Israel.  Trump made the Israel/Palestinian situation far worse than it was.
   
 GDP is up  
 ###. Thank you President Obama for creating an economy that has withstood Trumps uninformed meddling.
 
Wages are up  
 Not  by much and certainly not to the level of a living wage for the lowest of earners.  Many must work two or three jobs and are still homeless
 
Quality jobs are up  
No they are not.  Quality manufacturing jobs have moved overseas because corporations used their tax cuts for stock buy backs, profit taking for shareholders and expansion overseas.  
 
 Utility bills are down  
No they are not.  They have actually gone up for most Americans.
 
 Consumer optimism is up  
## It was in 2017.  It tanked because of Trumps stupid trade wars
 
 Business optimism is up  
###  Not really.  If you look at the inverted bond yields and the glut of tender offers coming down the pike many businesses are preparing for the recession that is on the horizon.
 
 
Soleimani is dead  
Thereby alienating millions of Iranians who were formerly pro American and wanted  a change.  Soleimani was actually helping us defeat ISIS and was widely seen by state department professionals as at least an opportunity to open a dialogue with Iran.   No chance of that now. They strongly advised a wait and see approach.  There was no evidence whatsoever that he was in Iraq to attack Americans.  If he was, we would not have known he was there.   Once again Trump made things worse in the Middle East.  But he was so jealous that Obama got OBL so Trump acted recklessly.
 
 
60% of the people say they are better off under Trump than Obama  

### This is bullshit.  Only multi millionaires say that.  Middle and lower class people do not.
 
 3 out of 4 Americans say the economy is good or great .
###Again thank you President Obama
 
 
90% of people are happy in their persona lives  
###This is total bullshit.  I have no idea where you got this statistic from and I suspect you just made it up

So it appears you are as much of a TRump Kool aid drinker as the rest of them.  Thank you. For proving our point.

not hurt you, promise.  Flattering you are still reading all of my posts.  Sad I have made you so afraid of me.  Is that something you learned from Trump?

...please allow me to do so:

 
https://abcnews.go.com/International/isis-years-jv-team-international-killers/story?id=40214844

 
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2018/jun/11/donald-trump/have-101-utilities-cut-rates-thanks-gop-tax-bill/

 
http://news.gallup.com/poll/285593/say-better-off-past-elections.aspx

 
http://news.gallup.com/poll/284285/new-high-americans-satisfied-personal-life.aspx

 
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/feeling-good-consumer-sentiment-climbs-in-february-and-returns-near-15-year-high-2020-02-14

 
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/small-business-optimism-at-record-high-up-160-under-trump

 
What color Kool Aide did you want to wash all the links above down with? lol

Theres a lot of qualifications to those stats, notably political party leanings.  Besides polling is not an exact science, but as far as it goes I will concede that Trump is a master con man and has a lot of people fooled.

"I cant disprove a single point you made Jack, but I just know they must be wrong because I have TDS."

Dam do you always over analyse every tid bit of your life?.. let's keep this simple...Dam play along. You're. turning into a buzz kill.

You make it up as you go along.  And you pound your chest as if there is one iota of truth to your bull shit.  You are well versed at spouting GOP talking points, I will give you that.  Can tell you watch Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh regularly.  You sound exactly like them.

 
Plain and simple, if Obama would have let the auto industry collapse and allowed all of our banking institutions to go bankrupt, we would still be digging out.  Growth policies?  Are you a complete moron?  Growth policies in the middle of the mess Obama inherited?  That would be like telling a person on life support, to get up and run a marathon.   Clearly you did not put much thought into your post, Hack.   Shame on you!

 
Do some research, not one of your websites that spew conspiracy theories.  Clearly, Obama inherited the worst recession in our nation's history, on par with the 1929 depression.  Ask one of your grandchildren to share their freshman econ101 textbook with you.  The facts do not lie.  You have a difficult time with the truth.  You really hate Obama that much?

 
Hack, you are disappointing me.  Thought you may have at least ONE clue you could share.  Trump's policies are clearly geared at receiving a healthy economy from the previous administration AFTER that economy had to be nursed back to heath.  If Trump would have been in Obama's place we would all still be in a terrible mess.

 
Go tell those poor family farmers who went bankrupt thanks to Trump's "sound policies."  These same family farmers watched my tax dollars go to mega corporation farming entities while the little guy went bust.  You can quote GOP talking points all you want but it is all a crock.

 
You continue to fool yourself and try so hard to back it up with science fiction.  You are only fooling yourself Hack.

truth, do you?  He was led to those stats by Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh.  In Hack's eyes, that makes them gospel.

 
Yes, Trump IS a master con man, but it did not take his best effort to con Hack.  Like P.T. Barnum would say; "a sucker is born every minute."  He was talking about Hack.

 
Just wait until Trump's time bombs (brilliant economic policies) start exploding, one by one.  Like musical chairs, Trump will be long gone, sitting safely in one of those chairs when the music stops, and could care less about anybody else, let alone the American people.

has ventured into an area he knows nothing about.  He's simply spouting the three amigos' (Trump, Hannity, Limbaugh) talking points.

 
Hack can not point to one engagement, one strategy, one overarching principle Trump spearheaded to defeat ISIS.  You must be right, maybe he is dizzy from you continuously "slapping him around."  Either that or he is so hypnotized by the three amigos, his brain wouldn't be able to function even if it had three living brain cells.

resembles OJ.

 
OJ:  "I didn't do it, but if I did, this is how I would have done it."

 
Trump:   "I didn't do it."  Then everyone finds out he DID do it.  So Trump claims, "if I did it, it would have been perfectly ok."

He is correct for "Once." There were NO growth policies during Obama, as he has now admitted! LOL!

 
Which of course means the fantastic economy today is due to all of Trump's growth policies.  

 
Game. Set. Match.

 
Mr. Dunphy.

to visit this board lately, but I agree.  Its refreshing to see a Lib poster tell the truth.  If he does this a few more times, I may have to rethink whether he is really the complete moron I initially thought he was.  

are trying very hard.  Noticed you are putting more thought into your posts and more time into researching "conspiracy theory" websites.

 
Your cohorts choose to use the stock market as a frame of reference, without any idea how it truly reflects the health of our economy or affects the average American.  Unlike you, I will cave and show you some hard core evidence which you will clearly ignore.

 
As a result of the mess Obama inherited; the stock price of Morgan Stanley dropped to less than $5.00/share then rose to over $40/share, General Motors stock dropped to $0 and rose to just under $40/share, and Bank of America dropped to less than $10/share and rose to almost $50/share by the end of Obama's second term.  The broader market, ok, Hack, the DOW dropped to just over 7,000 and rose to about 18,000, during the same time.

 
Go ahead, Hack, keep your head in the sand, keep gravitating to that alternate reality of yours.  But even using your irrelevant perspective you are WRONG AGAIN!

 
Not trying to diminish the importance of your business, promise.  Apologize if you took it that way.  Clearly, your effort to clean up your neighborhood by hiring more of your grandchildren to help you pick up aluminum cans IS noteworthy.  Yep you did find the condition of our economy positive enough to hire two more people.  You can thank Obama for getting us back on the right track.   Confident, the members of your community businessman's board also appreciate your efforts.

 
But Hack, I can not continue to educate you for free.  Even one with very little common sense would have gotten it by now.  After you wake up and stop accepting every false claim and rumor spread by the three amigos, (Trump, Hannity, and Limbaugh) you will have taken one small step towards independent thinking.

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I think he is even on the verge of possibly admitting he pulled the 34% out of his ass.  

 
Let's see if he has the courage.

We follow that one pretty close on this Board and I don’t recall it ever getting to almost  50 in the Obama years. I think 54 or so is the all time high and that was before the recession. I got in BOA in the upper 40s pre recession and was just killed when it dropped below 10.  Had to buy frantically under 10 to bring my ACPS to around 13 where I finally got out years later. Not sure it has done any better than the mid 30s since then and didn’t pay a DD for years. If it did spike to the 50s I missed it.

Very painful experience.

First impressions are usually the right ones.  How many times have you had the door open to a provider that you thought was "meh" but you decided to give her a chance anyhow? How many times was your first impression wrong?

 
Just because a person can write in complete sentences does NOT mean he is not a complete moron.

 
It's also obvious he's a liar to boot, perhaps that's why he and LTM&L are so tight. He claims to be new here, but unless he's written ten reviews in the short time since TER has been back it's IMPOSSIBLE that he wasn't here before TER went dark. You are a smart guy, I am sure you can follow the bread crumbs to figure out what I am talking about.

Proof LTM&L’s friend “once…..” ( who I think LTM&L befriended at the soup kitchen) has been here a long time.

 
Mouse over his name on any of his posts. Click on “see my posts”
As I’m  sure you know that shows all his posts on all boards.
His very first post under the name “once…..” was on 12/15/20.  
On 12/29/20 he posted on a board that requires a guy to have at least 10 reviews.

 
There is no way that in two weeks he submitted and had 10 reviews approved.

Proof “once….” Is a liar and a fraud.  

 
I do not give a shit that he or anyone uses an alias but the fact that he keeps on bringing up and emphasizing he is new tells me that he is afraid of someone and or something and is running and trying to hide.  He is running scared.  

 
If you notice he has not replied to any of my post in this regard because he knows he has been caught and cannot worm out of it , not even using his phony "holier than thou" persona.  

 
2020 = 28

Still crying and hiding behind the "crew?"  You can come out from under the table, now.  Don't worry, I won't hurt you, promise.  There is absolutely nothing to be afraid of, other than your own infantile behavior.

 
You can feign disinterest all you want, but every time you take a blind, futile stab, it is rather clear, you are getting a free education from my posts and remain tormented by the thought.  Yet, you helplessly, keep coming back for more.  Can not help yourself, can you!

 
What have we heard about your brand of insanity?  Isn't that doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting a different result.  You may be slow, but eventually, even you will catch on.  It is not going to change, poor, poor boy.

The "crew" circling the wagons and putting all three of their brain cells together in an attempt to establish a quorum.  Now the challenge is, to get all three of those brain cells to work in sync and produce one coherent thought.  Pretty challenging, isn't it?  Must admire your "try again" spirit, even in the face of extreme futility.  

 
 Am flattered you compliment me as you so often do.  Your posts make it crystal clear, not a single one of you are capable of holding your own when facing such severe punishment, individually.  Then you provide ample evidence, all three of you at once, still have no chance of fairing any better.

 
I AM getting my money's worth from my TER monthly subscription fee.  Witnessing all three of you, continuously stumbling all over each other, is keeping me well entertained.  Thank you!

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if I refrain from crying in public over MY imprudent stock picks, although it takes a lot for me to hold back.  Fortunately I have had more than one lucrative winner.

 
Back on topic.  Was trying the broad brush approach.  But obviously, some members of the "crew" would rather swallow broken glass, than admit when they are wrong.  Expected as much.

you provided, you did NOT expect Hack to admit he was spewing propaganda?  Did you?  Of course NOT!

In all fairness I have to give you kudos for not only owning your own bad decisions, but calling a liar a liar even when he is trying to "be on your side" Ok, you didn't exactly call him a liar, but at the very least you corrected him about his "misstatements of facts" lol

 
Of course BAC didn't rally to over $50 a share during the Obama years, not over $40 and not even over $30, BAC didn't even get over $20 a share until AFTER Trump was elected.  

 
Your defender wasn't any closer with his other ridiculous claims, but I am not going to bother pointing out each and every lie he told. I will give credit where credit is due, and I give you credit for trying to put some distance between yourself and this guy who just can't seem to keep from lying even when he must know how easily he is going to be proven FOS.

 
Yes, you might be the worst stock picker ever to grace this board, but at least you own your failures, and every once in a while you seem to be open to learning about why you make so many mistakes. Back to BAC, I know you pride yourself on eschewing "market timing" but while you are being honest you have to admit you loaded up on BAC "double up to catch up" when you heard that Warren Buffet put Five BILLION into the company at $5 a share. You actually became a "market timer" and that action saved your ass. St C would be so proud of you. lol

You took the bait, didn't you?  Knew you could not keep away.  Yet while sniveling and hiding under the table.  How much time did I make you waste conducting research and typing a reply?  Hahahahahahahaha!

 
Don't fret, I helped you raise your post count, something I know, is VERY important to you.

 
Now, if you could only get that one brain cell of yours to focus on Trump's lies, misrepresentations, and outright dishonesty, that would be time well spent.  That would require honesty and dignity, both of which you have demonstrated to have so little of.

 
But again, thank you, again for the entertainment.  Would have been nice to see your expression after reading my post and bending yourself into a pretzel.  

 
You are SO predictable.  Just like taking candy from a baby.  Stick around, now that you showed your zeal to bend over backwards and chase windmills, I just may throw you another bone.  Standby for more.

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BAC was a particularly corrupt institution that was sued by the government many times. Under Obama, the fines and penalties amounted to over US$91 billion. That could have cramped the recovery of their share price:
Foreclosure Settlement, : 11.8 B
Fannie Mae Settlement: 11.2 B  
FHFA: 9.5 B
DoJ: 16.5 B
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There were other smaller cases settled for fewer billions or only 10s or 100s of millions as well as private lawsuits to recover damages caused by BAC's complicity in the 2007-2008 crash.  
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http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/10/01/the-complete-list-bank-of-americas-legal-fines-and.aspx
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EDIT: Tried to include image of a table of BoA (BAC) fines and penalties but it doesn't load properly. So I deleted it.

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Very familiar with BAC and lost more than my share of money here and on C.  But my intent was to get a certain, one brain cell, poster from the "crew" to take the bait.  Looks like it worked.  He gladly went off on a tangent.

 
Seems there are a few, self-proclaimed geniuses who for some reason don't think the recession of 2008 was a big deal.  Nor are they willing to accept the Spartan effort by Obama to put the fire out.  Won't ask them where they went to grad school, as they wouldn't tell you the truth anyway.  But am guessing it must have been Trump U.  Apparently they get their info from Trump, Hannity, and Limbaugh.  Enough said.

 
One of the "crew" expressed their gratitude to Trump's policies and how Trump helped him borrow money and hire a couple of new employees.  But between you and I, how much could he have needed to borrow, to hire his two grandchildren to help him pick up aluminum cans.  He also mentioned business leaders in his community were appreciative of the impact his aluminum can pickup business had on improving the image of his neighborhood.  At least that sounds like the truth.

 
Thank you for your post.  Clearly BAC was responsible for more than their share of foreclosures, here in New York.