Is anyone else changing their hobby frequency due to  the negative wealth effects from their retirement / stock portfolio?  I was just perusing the latest visiting providers in my area and thought to myself maybe I'll skip a week or 2.    

Sex work is usually recession proof but the way things are these days, I would say many providers will see a dip in bookings and revenue at least for a little while.  If you look to social media and the providers who use Instagram and TwitterX and Bluesky, they tend to be the very high end women who receive not only rates in the neighborhood of $1000 per hour and up, but they also receive significant gifts worth thousands and up on top of their rates. Now what they have to do to get those gifts, I don't know but I'm sure in many cases it's acts they normally don't do for everyone.   It;s absurd in some cases what those women are getting versus others who simply advertise on Tryst alone.  Once The date is over, it's over, and the dude who has just dumped 8 grand in rates plus a 4500 dollar Burberry Coat, or Tiffany Necklace on a provider is going to be right back where he was before the date. This slowing economy made worse by Trump's idiotic policies is going to impact all but the uber wealthy men who pay to play, men like Trump's friends.  More and more it is these Uber wealthy pricks, plus the tech brothers who get rich with crypto and AI, who are driving the high end sex work business.  

For the last year or so I have. Rates have progressed to the point where it’s not worth it to me. I have a regular who I have a great situation with. All these ladies are doing well and more power to them.

I absolutely have re-thought how I hobby in light of ups and downs in my portfolio.  I have a basic monthly budget.  When markets are flying high and 2-3% daily gains occur in  bunches, I hobby a bit more. Then I dial back to the fixed monthly budget. In the past couple of months, things seem more fragile and I’m hesitating to spend even the fixed/planned amount. Hobbying is a luxury, but still part of my monthly “entertainment,” which is something valuable to me.  Recent drops of 15% in my portfolio has me thinking I should stay on the sidelines of the hobby, but when times are tough, that’s when the relaxation, joy, and pleasure of the hobby is most needed. A dilemma

Not changing anything as I am disciplined with my discretionary spending, which is how my mongering is funded.  

I believe with all the options available now it’s impossible not to be successful. Onlyfans is a huge game changer for me personally because it helps supplement my income. Virtual dates that I offer are a huge deal for me personally because they get bookings and don’t have to leave my house, or take the risks I do when seeing someone in person. In person dates are hard to cancel when you’ve invested by supplying a deposit to book a date. I honestly, don’t think 🤔 a recession will affect adult entertainment. People are going to be stressed and need stress relief.

If they didn't set you up for recessions to happen they didn't do their job.  They happen over and over again.  If you are going to be retired for 20-30 years you should expect quite a few and be prepared.  Mine never shuts up about being ready for waves like this.

But if I had to guess, it’s not many who are talking about their stock portfolios. That statement right there already puts you in the more well off category. That doesn’t mean it won’t impact those like you. Of course it will. But in smaller numbers than others.

Unless you have people actively managing your portfolio, most financial advisors try to push you into a few mutual funds. They make it sounds real polished, but when you dig a little deeper, you are left with a bunch of mutual funds. They may buy bond funds to offset equities, but that's about it...

Between this post and your other post it seems like something specific happened to you and you're upset. I'm not sure what to tell you, but plenty of guys on this board see high end providers. I doubt they're super hot and super rich. I doubt they are dumping $8 grand and throwing in a $4.5 grand gift every time they see one of these girls. I think you're buying into branding and marketing a bit much. Sure there are outliers but most of these girls are not getting that from every customer. Also, not sure why you are complaining anyway. This is how the world works, luxury cost more money. Anyway, in your other post you said you had a hard time separating and compartmentalizing. If that is the case then maybe this isn't the hobby for you.  
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Guys come here and complain about a bunch of stuff all the time. You're welcome to complain as well. Just don't expect a ton of sympathy or validation. You just have to move on.

Sounds like a private chat to be had.  But my advisor has reasonable fees and frees up my time.  That's why I hired one.  I would rather work in the profession I want to than learn another one.  

Im sure some delusional SBs are gonna be surprised when they get kicked to the curb.

tap your retirement portfolio to see providers, then you have the wrong hobby.  This hobby is best suited for those who have sufficient discretionary income to afford to do this whenever they want to.   Risking your retirement for this makes you no different than the twenty-something guy making $100,000 a year who takes on a $3000 a month Ferrari lease in the hopes it will help him get laid.  It's the same false expectation from a different perspective of stupid.  

There are many lines of work that are recession proof, such as healthcare, car repair, grocery stores, etc but SW is not one of them. Since this lifestyle is based on disposable income, whenever there is a shock to the downside with that income or net worth, this little corner of the world of ours is going to feel it.  
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You also seem to be of the belief that the same guy that can afford a provider at $1000/hr or more, is also the guy lavishing the women with incredibly expensive gifts. I can tell you first hand this is not the case as I see women in that price range. I do give gifts of appreciation now and then, but they tend to be gift cards that I know they can use in the $100-200 range.  
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Lastly, you seem to be arguing against yourself when you say "Sex work is usually recession proof..." at the beginning of your OP but then at the end, you are saying that this latest shock to the economy "is going to impact all but the "uber wealthy men." Both of those statements can't be true.

Once the stock market dipped i dumped all my hobby money and will continue through this panic.  

Right you are! I have a $300 UTR who satisfies me completely.

Due to ridiculously inflated hourly pricing, which seems to be the new thing and the current economic situation, I've slowed my role somewhat.

Do you really think that the guys dropping that type of money really care about a market downturn for a while or even a couple of years? What they really care about is their income/cash flow.

What's maca root?

Thanks for your email!

..... sex work is already being affected by the economy.

Were you asking this question when inflation went up by 9% in a single year?  
Something tells me you weren't and although your portfolio probably went up during that time it didn't come close to keeping up with inflation. The recent short -term ups and downs mostly made money for the brokers who profit from the churn.

If your into options your loving this action.

A savvy Day Trader could be bank rolling. Your average longterm invester not so much. But for that Day Tradder, that's income, not retirement. I can totally see those guys dropping extra cash on escorts.

By far, not a scientific study but I've noticed a decline of available Providers in my area.  When I moved back to Florida in 2014, there were about 200 women listed on P411 for the Jacksonville market.  There are now only 30.  Orlando had close to 300 posting on P411 and today only 76.  Tampa was the equivalent of Orlando and has also had severe downturn.    

Most of the stuff on Twitter is BS.  I have had many of those ladies tell me that if I paid for event X they would not charge me anything for the time spent at event X --- just for the 3 hour session afterwards.   Then I see a post on Twitter with pictures of event X.  Very few guys spend thousands of dollars on gifts.  Most high end ladies have 0 or 1 client that falls into that bucket.  They just want you to feel cheap and believe that they have more.

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OK, this kind of made me sad to read, but I know some of the "high end" providers you speak of and they will openly say how they will buy these "gifts" themselves, take a pic and post it, and then return the "gift" for a refund. It is marketing.  One gal said that she would even had her dad hand her the gift and take a pic of it (his face blurred) and say it was from a client. Guys get super jelly and see these pics then want to one up this perceived client. This is the same ways gals market the FMTY concept. They may not even have gone somewhere but post a bunch of fancy pics of the date. Then some guys contacts her and says "I see you have a great time in Paris. I can't afford that, but can you do a FMTY at XYZ". You are no longer think you are dumping a ton of money, you are thinking you got a deal because this "client" just dumped 10X that in Paris for this same gal. I am one of the few providers that will be 100% honest about myself and about the industry. I *do* post gifts I get, but that would be candles, chocolates, flowers, or fleet farm gift cards to buy my chickens food. I have said this before, most of the gals in the $1K + range have another day job. Once your rates get that high you are going to price yourself out of the general market. What you are feeling down about is a fantasy.

This is a good topic. My personal position at this time is, I will continue to see the providers I want to see and when I want to see someone. If the price is too high, then I look elsewhere. If things really get bad, of course I always have the abstinence option. 😂  

Sounds like some of these women will have a very lucrative post-escort career as telemarketers (or whatever it is called these days) or Internet influencers.

I don’t care who’s side you’re on. They all lie. They all sacrifice the greater good to win elections. The parties give no shot to an honest politician. Too much “what’s in it for me” deals have to be made to get support.

Hobbling is exactly what it is and should be done with Hobby money. Its kind of like gambling money. Be prepared to use/ lose every cent. If stock market swings changes or even causes you to think about your next meeting with a provider, I would think long and hard about going forward. I do like to have an idea of what I spend on providers per year just to keep it in perspective. However the older get I worry more about running out of time than I do running out of hobby money. Each person has to think long and hard about what works for them .        

W.C. Fields
“I spent half my money on gambling, alcohol and wild women. The other half I wasted.”

....out there.  They're the cuddlers.  There are many on there that appear to be legit cuddlers but there's also many on there that are more than willing to go well beyond that.  I'm batting about 50/50 at this point but this is Minnesota, not sure how the rest of the country is doing.    The downside, if you run into a legit cuddler, you'lll spend $90-$150 on an hour of time with the lady that you were attracted enough to have interest in more happening.  Pretty low investment for trail & error.  For the record (and before the lectures from the lady's start), I play it cool and let them make the move.  Yes, I give a wide open door for them to step through but I've never pushed the idea of fucking rather than spooning.  

Plenty of retards who don’t understand that.

Capitalize on it to divide and pit us against each other, especially the people who are not well informed about the status quo, greedy,dirty, corrupt executives and their corporations. Their ownership and control on the politicians is what's fucking up ever.
Election money should be a part of the national budget. if we truly want to eliminate legalized corruption , then no private interests oligarchs and big corporations  should be funding political parties. Ony then, politicians could do their job's .

Lenin would be proud!

This is a good post.
I like the idea of campaign money coming out of the national budget.
 I do believe that politicians and teachers unions have ruined the education system.

Another case of Boobsman politicizing an issue (the economics of hobbying) that was doing just fine here on the General Forum.