http://patriotroom.com/?p=2858

This is from Anderson Cooper 360, but you might swear that you were listening to Rush Limbaugh tear Obama to shreds for flat out lying about his connection with Ayers. You are gonna love this.

Tooo funny

check out the "breaking news" banner on that video:

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Trust CNN to focus on the ant while the anthill is on fire

Yeah I give 2 shits about Ayers ... find f*cking Bin Laden you dumb f*cks

They are both friends of people that bombed the Pentagon.

there's huge problems with the "Ayers is a terrorist, and therefore anyone who has ever been inside his apartment is un-American" line of thinking. Bill Ayers is a Distinguished Professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago which makes him an Illinois state employee. If you draw the logic to it's conclusion, then the State of Illinois is a sponsor of terrorism. Domestic terrorism at that.

If you use the same logic, John McCain has mob ties since Charlie Keating was convicted and sent to prison for Racketeering.

They worked together to try to improve public education in Chicago!

Good god! How unamerican can they be!!!

Yawn.  I tire of this Obama-Ayers BS.  All this has proven to me is that Obama and Ayers worked together PROFESSIONALLY on things, one of which was a Peace School with a - gasp - UNITED NATIONS THEME OMFG CALL THE THOUGHT POLICE!  CHILDREN?!  LEARNING ABOUT THE UNITED NATIONS?!?!?!!?!?  TERRORISTS I TELL YOU!

Please.  These attempts to demonize Obama are growing more and more pathetic.  The fact that he was linked to the man does NOT mean that he condones violence.  At least Obama cares about education, unlike McCain, whose voting record regarding education is atrocious to me.

Looks like you are selling butterfly manure. Obama Ben Lyin is trying to "educate" America about being defrauded by a black muslim communist, the one in his mirror.

So...  Ayers stuff - BS

Keating 5 stuff?  Many truths...  All McSAME has are baloney mud-slinging.

Releasing his transcripts. What the fuck is he hiding?

You cannot get a job without releasing you transcripts. I am not talking McDonalds here.

You cannot get a Federal job without getting a low level Public Trust clearance.

Here we are electing a completely unknown to be the President of United States.

Moreover, if you had the same association with Ayers, you will not get a Public Trust clearance and you will not get a Federal job of any kind. It doesn't matter whether you are 7 years old or 2 years old when he committed the crimes.

If anyone thinks I am making this up, go to USAjobs.com and findout what is the minimum clearance is needed for $40k year job and I am not talking about DoD jobs either.

You can always be tired of truth or shut your eyes and think everything is hunky dory.

Nothing in common.

I LIVE in Illinois so I'm right with you on your idea of condemning the state for it's actions.

It says McCain was cleared of any wrong doing in the Keating 5 case.

He testified against keating.

CNN classifies Ayers as simply a 'radical'? Laughable.

Are you talking about the Obama that claimed he barely knew Ayers?

CNN's 'conclusion' that they haven't had a relationship for the past three years. SO FUCKING WHAT? What about the decades prior? They simply 'worked' together? Ayers wrote the founding grant and BHO served as the Chairman of the board. Yea, they barely knew each other. Ayers hosted BHO kick off for State office.

They could have been doing nothing but crocheting doilies for Mother Theresa's children. It doesn't matter. Anyone that would voluntarily share oxygen with Ayers is not to be trusted.

It interesting to note how approving you and others are of Ayers.

They could have been doing nothing but crocheting doilies for Mother Theresa's children. It doesn't matter. Anyone that would voluntarily share oxygen with Ayers is not to be trusted.

It interesting to note how approving you and others are of Ayers.

More information, it is too bad no one cares about the truth anymore and you have to dig so hard to find it and how little any one cares.  Here is some interesting material:


Obama and Ayers school reform work
http://www.city-journal.org/2008/eon1006ss.html

Obama and Ayers discussion
http://www.pjtv.com/?cmd=page&page-id=101

Keating 5
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/mccain/1205087,CST-NWS-fact07web.article

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The SunTimes link is broken. Looks like they took down the story. What did it say?

You're right on one thing :  NOBODY CARES!!

Go back to your political archeological nitpicking & find something with more substance.

And Ayers served his time and hasn't continued his criminal activities. Don't tell Republicans that. His crime to them is becoming a political liberal, which to them makes him still a "radical." I don't think they would feel that way if he became a Reagan Democrat. It goes to show how Republicans try to criminalize liberals. Which is shamefully unpatriotic.    

[irony] And yes, (like) Ayers really used his community organization abilities in his radical days. The Weather Underground was really into community organizing and improving education, just like the Ayers of these days is.[/irony]

[sarcasm] More left than Pol Pot, I know, except Pol Pot was never a liberal.[/sarcasm]

As it is, I doubt Ayers is in line to become a member of Obama's cabinet.    

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The link is fixed, bad cut and paste job
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/mccain/1205087,CST-NWS-fact07web.article

Actaully Ayers never did spend any time for all the bombing, they got off due to prosecutorial misconduct. He has not renounced his actions, instead think they should have done more and now trying to produce more like him through re-education.  Ayer's idea of educational reform is more in line with the Hitler Youth and Hamas youth programs and of course Pol Pot and Ayers would get along great, and yes Pol Pot was a liberal:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/07/31/HAMAS.TMP

http://www.jewishjournal.com/thegodblog/item/hamas_youth_ready_for_martyrdom/

Community organizing and improving education?

You aren't typing that with a straight face are you? I grew up in the SF Bay Area of the Sixties and had/have friends in the SDS and even they wouldn't make such a ridiculous claim.

and you wonder why we say you just make shit up?

Rather than giving articles about Israel. How does Ayers tie in to this? You've failed to link it together. What are his policies on education?

Serving his time: the court went by the rules of justice.

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He might have refused to renounce the bombings, but that alone shows that he was willing to pay the price of doing them. His bombing activities didn't kill anybody, except his friends, including his SO who blew herself up assembling a bomb. I could see why he is unlikely to renounce them.

His own education encouraged action, whether it was well-thought out or not, unfortunately. Inaction in his mind was consent.

I can't see that his educational theories would  produce more like him.



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It's interesting to note how disapproving you are of a college professor.

How many bombs has he planted in the last 30 years?

Does he still advocate violence?

Is he still organizing radicals?

Dude, it's time to join the 21st century.

I say that's what he does now. I don't think that's inaccurate.

(Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot the mark-up. I've corrected that.)



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FBI and prosecutorial misconduct might be worth protesting violently?

I mean, we almost deify the guys who rioted and destroyed private property because they were unhappy with a few taxes and licenses yet we villify people who were using violence to protest a government which was fighting an insane war, spying on its own people, bugging the opposing party's offices, killing its own citizens while they protested, etc. etc.

I don't agree with Ayers' approach but how is what he was doing different from the Boston Tea Party?

I'll tell you how. Winners write the history.

Well maybe if you looked at the other links you dismissed in my first post then you would know the connection, but that may be a little difficult for you since you could careless about facts.   His educational theories is based in communisism and radicalism using all methods, he never regrets the bombings just that he did not do enough.  I am surprised he has not become a Jihadist/Islamist or whaqt ever you want to call them, but of course he is the one that is going to send someone to thier death not strap it on himself...

Since you can not be bothered with facts here is the link again:
Obama and Ayers school reform work
http://www.city-journal.org/2008/eon1006ss.html

And yes, he  did turn himself in once he discovered the charges were dismissed because of prosecutorial misconduct.

By 1976 or 1977, with federal charges against both fugitives dropped due to prosecutorial misconduct (see COINTELPRO), Ayers was ready to turn himself in to authorities, but Dohrn remained reluctant until after she gave birth to two sons, one born in 1977, the other in 1980. "He was sweet and patient, as he always is, to let me come to my senses on my own", she later said.[2] The couple turned themselves in to authorities in 1980.

It's called...  LACK OF JUDGMENT.

John McSAME: "cleared of impropriety but criticized for poor judgment"

Poor judgment.  Keating.  McSAME and Failin' shouldn't be using the Ayers argument when it's clear that McSAME has shown time and time again that he has poor judgment.

Besides, why do you want to support McSAME when he's the BIGGEST flip flopper of them all.  Hell, he FLIP FLOPPED on TORTURE.  On. Torture.

He even wanted to join what you would call the socialists: the Democratic party.

McSAME the non-maverick with poor judgment who is also known as the biggest flip-flopper of them all.

He's not only totally unrepentant, he's sorry that he didn't do more. Boston Tea Party my ass.

Since he hasn't repented, I don't forgive him. He shouldn't be given forgiveness until he does.

BTW, look into his 'educational reform' in Illinois (for which he hired BHO). It promoted a very radicalization of schools.

THEY WERE NEVER FRIENDS.

Why don't we talk about something REAL like Failin', excuse me, Palin's husband who is a TRAITOR to the US?  Oh, I know why, b/c you choose to ignore it.

Get over it.  The Ayers issue is LONG been passed, but hey if you want to continue believing in a false premise.  Go ahead.  It just helps my candidate to win.

So, thanks for helping my candidate, Obama, on his road to the White House.

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A little like calling Stalin an agricultural reformer. Yes, that's a cool-headed neutral analysis. No red-baiting there. Then to say in previous articles that Ayers' personal history has nothing to do with the criticism, how manipulative.

Yes, he said he did not do enough, but he also apologized to somebody who was injured in a bombing of his.  

I just don't think the fact of having worked with Ayers soils Obama. The guy is free and he's a force in Chicago politics in Hyde Park (which BTW, is the most anti-Daly part of Chicago's democratic party). Ayers might be an admitted communist, but Obama is not. And no, I just don't believe Ayers will have any further role in Obama's politics. No, I don't think Obama agrees in any degree with Ayers.