Well Rove is a (an evil) genius. But, yes, the majority of Americans are idiots. To believe the lies and bullshit that Bush/Rove and draft-dodger I-am-ashamed-of-my-gay-daughter-Cheney were selling proves that most Americans will believe anything if they hear it often enough on TV. (We're fighting the war over there so that we don't have to fight it over here. What bullshit. So the terrorists are thinking, damm we really wanted to blow up America again, but I guess we must to go to Iraq instead. Read bin Laden's recent statement. They've figured out that it is possible to do both.) The thing that gets me is Bush's reasoning is so simple minded, yet people buy it. Conclusion: most people in this country are simple minded like Bush.

Did any of you see the CNN special on the Evangelicals? These Christian Taliban fanatics are the wave of the future. How the fuck in the modern world can there be so many of these throw backs to the Dark Ages? The only reason that we have modern technology is because man was able to break out from the kind of narrow minded religious thinking (what an oxymoron, a thinking evangelical) that these people represent. (Remember the renaissance?) These people are every bit as dangerous and demented as the Islamic fanatics in the Middle East. And polls show that one out of three voters were evangelicals. To bad the Romans didn't burn all of the Christians when there were only a few of them. The biggest problem facing the human race is religion.

AMEN!  I'm afraid to go to a church, for fear that they'll suck my brains out.

  that is the sad part....Christianity is an honorable and noble religion as is Islam.  However, we see a rise of fundamentalist Islam, Christianity here in the US, the loonies in Israel.  These fundamentalists have way too much influence in this admin's foreign policy which is the scariest thing about this group.  
  You are absolutely right to compare these christian fundamentalists to the Taliban because that is exactly what they are!!  They are just as ignorant and dangerous as any backward afghan Taliban.  If Bush were to tell these people today that the earth is still the center of the universe and that god told him so, these christian taliban would actually believe W.  These apocalypse awaiting lunatics, mark my word, will one day push this world to the brink of unparalled chaos as they gain more and more influence.

"But, yes, the majority of Americans are idiots" ... FatnHorny

That eliteist attitude of how smart your side is and how dumb everyone else is... Take a look in the mirror, if you are so smart how come you can't even beat a President the left is claiming is so stupid

We lost true- and yet we are not wrong.  It is you who are slipping in to Fascism.  When you realize that Hitler and Mussolini were ELECTED- you can see that democracies make mistakes all the time.  You have done so.  

From now on I think you need to have a new approach when we get attacked by terrorists or lose guys in foreign adventures. You should think- hey I deserve this I voted for it to continue and for our former allies to leave our side.  I thought this was a good thing.  I wanted to be the laughingstock/pariah of the world.

You have chosen to leave the Western alliance for uncharted NeoFascist waters.  You have chosen to leave the world leadership position.  You have chosen to treat large groups of your own citizens as second class citizens.  You have chosen the politics of meanness and division over inclusion and respect.

When you are called a Stupid hick- you need to say with pride "I am proud to be ignorant and anti intellectual! It is good to rely on one book instead of many.  And that science stuff is bullshit unless it is used for weapons!"

You have chosen to be the New Iran.  The Euros are already making the comparison AND THEY ARE RIGHT!

Be proud.  Be Happy.  Be Strong.  But don't whine when you reap what you have sown.  Claim those body bags with pride.   Wait at security points with a smile.  I can only hope that your family members are notable in their sacrifice and among the first to be wounded or killed- you asked for it-nay demanded it!  They will make you proud.

I hope you get many opportunities to be proud.  May you spend the next decades at lots of events to show your pride.  Events like memorials, funerals, and visiting hours.

I for one, will never stop my efforts to get American back on the path to reason and leadership. Until then - we will deserve all the bad things that happen to us-I only hope that Bush voters get to contribute more-to atone for their blunder.

Don't forget about far right wing Jews as well (present party non included).

OK,to take you up on your charge: I'll get a team of my right wing friends and you bring a team of your lefty buddies.  We'll spend a day on intelligence tests and see who wins.  Agenda might be:

9:00 - 12:00    SAT/ACT Sample Test
12:00 - 1:00    Rubik's Cube
1:00 - 2:30     Jeopardy Reruns
2:30 - 4:00     New York Times Crossword
4:00 - 5:00     Count the Toothpicks (a la Rain Man)

Who's in?  I'll host!

Bringing out the locals is cheatin', my man.

For the life of me, i'm trying to figure out how the modertor of the TS board could consider himself to be politically aligned with the mullahs in DC. Perhaps you could offer some assistance on that issue.

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You read the TS board???!!!

LOL, I guess since republicans get the rap as cheaters, I thought that maybe I could get away with one.  Does this mean you don't want a piece of me in Jeopardy?

Relative to the TS Board, assuming you're making the TS-bisexual link, here's your response.

1) I don't consider myself gay or bi, however, I am very sympathetic to the gay cause due to personal principles and having alot of gay friends over the years (yes, i do live in and was educated in a big city in a very blue state).

2) Kerry made it clear he didn't support gay unions, so why support his spineless ass on this issue even if Bush was more conservative?  Had Kerry come out and said what he believes, I might have voted differently.

3) I'm not a single issue voter in general, and certainly not on this issue.  I'm economically conservative and unless a Clinton-esque candidate presents himself, I'll lean Republican.

What you doing on that dark side of TER anyway, my friend?

You think you can beat W in those events?  Only reason I make you the favorite is that you have more time on your hands to prepare!  HA!

   it just means that the majority of the village has crowned its king!!  The fact is that a majority of this country whether they be the liberal elites with their heads stuck up their asses or the country folk who think W is appointed by god himself, is truly ignorant at its core.  If you ask a majority of Americans about the real depths of foreign policy or the economy, you would discover how truly ignorant the public really is.  The biggest problem with this nation is that it has completely lost its sense of accountability and curiosity.  Probably the 2 most important traits of a strong democracy.  And that is the reason why a John kerry was nominated and the reason why dumbass Bush is president for the second time.  
   The reason these 2 candidates were such unworthy and lowlife idiots is because the majority of the public is also stupid!!  And we all know stupid is as stupid does!!

You want to hear stupid?  I was told by a college educated person that she was voting for Bush because he had the more attractive wife, and the looks of a first lady were important to how we would be perceived abroad.

God help us all!!

taws3.5- you are reminding me of a comedian who talked about his brother, a born again.  The brother used to adminsh him that some of his actions were precluding him from going to heaven.

His take was- I don't want to go to heaven if it's filled with assholes like you!

My sentiments-  I am not trying to persuade people- they are clearly beyond persuasion.

I am sure that if you got up in a bar in 1933 Germany and said this political movement is a disaster and is leading this country to ruin and pariah status- you would be either beat up or laughed off the stage.  But you still would have been right.

I don't want to be in the same country with people who have a moralist agenda, especially a wacko christian one!  (Bahai might be ok)!  I don't care if they know I have no respect for them or their belief in fairy tales-I don't.  I'd rather leave gracefully with my like minded states.

That's why I see secession as such a good idea.  They can keep their views and keep making corn.  We can join with the modern world and get shit done.

As I have said- be proud of your bumpkin ideas.  Just don't take me along with you!  I have to see my family in Europe every couple of years and I hate being so embarrassed by my country's actions and "leadership".

We DON'T have to live together- we can divide and do fine.  Let's do it!

Hey TWAT3.5-

What "More people"?  I think having the educated of 6 continents on my side is enough.  The others I dont want to have on my side.

While devoutly heterosexual, I find transgendered people interesting from an anthropoogical perspective. Nothing more, nothing less.

With a handle like yours', your Jeopardy skills better be formidable.

Have him count back from 10, and we'll call it his victory.  The only condition is that he should bring his daughter (instead of Donny and Dick).  The brunette one! You know, the one that looks like Mrs. Santa's Wife's Sister?  

Yeah, and I buy Playboy for the articles!!!