The parents can sometime get by without it because in most cases they take jobs that require little conversation with many people who they come in contact with. But the second generation had better learn and master english if they have any hope at all of living a better life than their parents live.
But I just have to take this chance to jab at you, could not pass it up. When I read through your first paragraph, I was saying to myself, "damn, what a liberal". The I looked at the handle and almost soiled my shorts. Dude, are you going soft? Maybe we should beg for SDStud to take some time out of his busy schedule to post and harden your heart. )
All jokes aside, your sentiment in the first paragraph is right on target. People who come to this country for opportunity and who end up staying always seem to work hard to have their kids assimilate into the multicultural mix that we have going here.
Sometimes I wonder whether there is a pure strain of any racial group in this country. I have a funny instance in my life where I met this all american blonde provider, once me and her had finished getting totally comfortable with each other and started opening up, she blurted out of nowhere that her grandmom was black. Looking at her, who would have taken her for 1/4 black? The whole thing was so weird, funny and enlightening, all at the same time.
Last year I read a long newspaper article about scientist's attempts to map a "pure strain" human genome. The goal was to find a "pure" genetic strain where they could clearly study the transmission of hereditary diseases and maybe come up with useful information and possibly medical cures that could be used to benefit everyone. A worldwide search yielded only one tiny, isolated region in either Iceland or Greenland where there had been little or no mixing of tribes or races for a couple of hundred years. It is interesting that given the dreams of Nazis, the scientists did not find a concentration of racial or ethnic purity in any country that was once under the control of Nazis, and the criterion that the scientists used required decades to hundreds of years of a strain un-mixed with other strains. So in short, except for a few, we are all more than likely multi-cultural to some extent.
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Give it time, people melt into this society! Many of my friends were either illegal immigrants or children of illegal immigrants and 20 - 30 years later are successful contributors to our American Melting Pot.
I also don't find anything anti-American in a peoples ties to their native national or cultural identity. We all enjoy St. Patrick's Day and Cinco de Mayo or Greek days at the local Greek Orthodox Church, etc. These cultural differences make is great! They also make us THE MOST TOLERANT PEOPLE ON THE PLANET!
I will contend that learning the English language is essential in finding success here. It should be demanded as part of becoming a citizen. That we produce ballots, national, state and local in so many languages is counterproductive to immigrants. Without a grasp of the English language they will find limited success, however, their children will not be subject to this burden if we can keep the failed bilingual and ESL classes out of our public schools.
I do think that we should secure our borders, but in that I would support easing immigration quotas for our southern neighbors. I think that Bush's current immigration suggestions are worth serious discussion.
This is a big country, fly over it sometime, there is plenty of room for people who want to come here for the same reasons we or our forefathers did, a modicum of Freedom and Opportunity!
The parents can sometime get by without it because in most cases they take jobs that require little conversation with many people who they come in contact with. But the second generation had better learn and master english if they have any hope at all of living a better life than their parents live.
But I just have to take this chance to jab at you, could not pass it up. When I read through your first paragraph, I was saying to myself, "damn, what a liberal". The I looked at the handle and almost soiled my shorts. Dude, are you going soft? Maybe we should beg for SDStud to take some time out of his busy schedule to post and harden your heart. )
All jokes aside, your sentiment in the first paragraph is right on target. People who come to this country for opportunity and who end up staying always seem to work hard to have their kids assimilate into the multicultural mix that we have going here.
Sometimes I wonder whether there is a pure strain of any racial group in this country. I have a funny instance in my life where I met this all american blonde provider, once me and her had finished getting totally comfortable with each other and started opening up, she blurted out of nowhere that her grandmom was black. Looking at her, who would have taken her for 1/4 black? The whole thing was so weird, funny and enlightening, all at the same time.
Last year I read a long newspaper article about scientist's attempts to map a "pure strain" human genome. The goal was to find a "pure" genetic strain where they could clearly study the transmission of hereditary diseases and maybe come up with useful information and possibly medical cures that could be used to benefit everyone. A worldwide search yielded only one tiny, isolated region in either Iceland or Greenland where there had been little or no mixing of tribes or races for a couple of hundred years. It is interesting that given the dreams of Nazis, the scientists did not find a concentration of racial or ethnic purity in any country that was once under the control of Nazis, and the criterion that the scientists used required decades to hundreds of years of a strain un-mixed with other strains. So in short, except for a few, we are all more than likely multi-cultural to some extent.
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the Scaramouche, John Kerrys yacht that he is hiding now to foster his "man of the people" image?
BFD. He and his wife together are worth a Billion Dollars. Why shouldn't they have a yacht. At least he pays for using his own boat with he and his wife's money. On the other hand, George W. Bush squanders millions of dollars of the taxpayer's money for photo-ops where he dresses like a fighter pilot on an aircraft carrier, to proclaim that the Iraq Mission is already accomplished, despite the fact that our brave soldiers keep dying over there. Is THAT the accomplishment that Bush was taking credit for, getting hundreds and hundreds of U.S. Troops killed because he had no plan for the peace?
During his recent fishing trip, Bribite hooked a 3 pound pufffish, which fought him for five hours. Out of food and beer, Bribite weakened during the massive struggle and was pulled into the ocean. Out of nowhere, a 20 feet, angry as hell, barricuda swooped up and took Bribite down with one bite. The splash made by the barricuda caused the pufffish to be tossed on the deck of the "yacht", so Bribite's friends thought that he had simply gone for a well deserved leak.
At the very time of Bribite's disapperance, an invisible alien ship was hovering over the boat (sorry, yacht). The aliens so respected Bribite's courageous struggle with the pufffish that they sent one of their own down to take Bribite's form. When his friends (white, brown, asian, any blacks, or real hispanics that didn't get their tan out of a can??) checked on him they saw the alien in Bribite's form and simply said, "man, what a long leak".
The only problem was the aliens thought they had picked a conservative, but the one that they sent down was a raging liberal, with a libertarian streak. So my friend, that is the story of the "new" Bribite. If you do not believe it, check with the National Enquirer, it has 15 witnesses, 13 of whom saw the whole saga via satelite and two of whom saw it form ten miles away (they were making out in some beach dunes) due to a weird warp in the earth's magnetic field.
It was a 3 1/2 pound mackerel, get at least that right.
Actually, it was a great trip. Lots of big yellowfin, from 55 to 85 lbs (filled the freezer for sushi) and lots of dorado and one smallish sailfish (tagged and released). Sweat my ass off in the heat and humidity, rehydrating myself with water, Gatorade and raspberry Snapple as I quit drinking alcohol 17 years ago, its an Irish thing you know. On Friday I drank almost 5 gallons of liquid before I pissed it was so hot.
We were planning on hitting the local providers, but met up with some 40 something babes from Italy (who still like Americans and Bush) who were stunning, available and affectionate and were staying at a very nice hacienda (better than the cramped quarters on the yatch). They went out fishing with us on the last day, topless don't you know. Although it would have probably been less expensive with providers than dinner and the nightlife scene in Cabo. (Although I did enjoy knowing the O's were real!)
It was nice though to be missed by my leftist, liberal fellow whoremongers!
This is a big country, fly over it sometime, there is plenty of room
China, Mexico and India are also big countries. They can stay in their own "big country".
Yes, but China, Mexico and India don't have a funtime69. Don't you know all the newcomers are coming over to see YOU.
In Mexico the Mayans sing folk songs about funtime69. As legend has it - there is a man, living high in the hills of Estados Unidos, soooo WHITE that to look at him with your naked eyes will blind you. But, if you are able to pull the stick from his ass, you will be rewarded with riches beyond your wildest dreams.
So, funtime69, pucker-up cause the Mayans are coming.
LLcar, all you do is insult.
just once could you provide a suportive arguement for our current immigration trends? Perhaps you could show me the light. Convince me baby.
I'm sorry but I am not a therapist. You need years and years and years and a couple more years of therapy.
BTW, you can only see the light if you open your eyes Grasshopper.
And fly Funtime firstclass to any south of the border locale. And like in the game shows (drumroll, please), we will stuff his pockets full of money to engage the local providers. He would never be the same.
Major problem- he can't tell when he's being ficked. He THINKS some JEWS are fucking him- while in reality its the present admin.
How can you satisfy the man who can't figure out who's fucking who?
I know a lot of conservative thinkers and know of none that express bigoted viewpoints. This is nothing more than a left wing lie attempting to align idiots like David Duke as mainstream conservatives. For those of you who live in a vacuum, Duke was opposed by all Republicans in his political aspirations.
That fact that I have witnessed a lifetime of liberal democratic social warfare programs fail, and fail miserably, only reinforces what my political hero once said:
"The best social program is a productive job for anyone who's willing to work. " Ronald Wilson Reagan
The Black community in this country has been decimated by the lefts "solutions", our schools have been and continue to be trashed by it, and most importantly it has given birth to this idiotic class warfare that the Democrats seem to feed on (even while they eat cake).
Reagan also said, and I think rightly:
"Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it. "
That quote pretty much sums up the economic desires of the 2004 Democratic platform.
BTW, it is really annoying that I am monitored and my posts are allowed only once a day! This overzealous monitoring has robbed this venue of it vitality and enjoyment! We are free to talk about which lube is best for butt fucking, but a cross word from a conservative is considered too fucking awful for this "bastion of free speech!", while it seems to be just fine to refer to me and other conservatives as "racist, nazi's" and worse! That is fucked up and you all know it! As if this last sentence will ab allowed.
While I certainly have had my differences with bribri-I was not aware he was on double secret probation! Surely if I think he's welcome, he's welcome?
WTF? Did he call somebody a liberal again?
and a point in agreement with him- back in the day, many conservatives were quite progressive. The GOP WAS Lincoln's party you will recall. Nowadays, however, the party has seemed to welcome bigotry and made it and its veiled partner-preference part of the ethos/platform.
Bribri- glad you are a vestige of the "give everyone a fair playing field" GOP of yore! Too bad you are aligned with the present party of priviledge and prejudice. But I know you will try to get it back on track from within. Just cuz I gave up after finding entrenched fascists doesn't mean you will. Let's see the sterner stuff you are made of!
Bri Bri- the Miracle worker!