Politics and Religion
Bingo.
Have you ever heard of Lawrence O'Donnell rant on this? He said it just should have been sold as "Medicare for all" from day one and he makes a great point that there would have been tens of millions of built in "salesman" for the law (the elderly) that would have made the transition a piece of cake
I was quite shocked to hear Chuck Schumer be so critical of Ocare last week but then I read the comments made by Dem Tom Harkin, one of the co-authors of the ACA, I damn near soiled my big boy panties:
“We had the power to do it in a way that would have simplified healthcare, made it more efficient and made it less costly, and we didn’t do it, So I look back and say we should have either done it the correct way or not done anything at all.
WOW! When the writers of the law say they shouldn't have done it in retrospect and admitted it was written to deceive the voting public, why would ANYONE (other than people getting cheap/free HC at taxpayers expense) think Ocare was a good idea?
This is really about keeping power of the congress.
So when you don't stand up for yourself or your actions.
Then people will see you as weak and this is the real problem with some Democrats.
The longer this law is on the books people will continue to want it!
In fact, I don’t want to be the one who tells you, bc I know how much you enjoy Little Sizzlers in the morning.
Now here is another revelation for you. Laws are like sausages, Jack. Since the enactment of the very first law by Congress, someone always says – “we could have made it better.” Yes, law making by a collective body is just like making sausages – you really don’t want to know what they put in there, why, and what they left out. Sometimes we end up with the Bridge to Nowhere; sometimes we include provisions in the Affordable Care Act that were not every one’s first choice.
So let’s dial your “WOW” down to the appropriate response to this article …zzzzz
I'd suggest you jump ship while you still can.
I've never heard of law that forced people to watch how sausage was made, while forcing that very same sausage down the throats of the citizens of the United States of America.
You might be a fan of mandates, but the majority of Americans are not
He specifically mentioned "cost" Mari, not the grandiose promises congress makes to the peeps or the horse trading that goes in to get votes for passage, etc.
And libs can no longer use the "right just trashes the law and that is why it is not popular" meme. It is now LIBS trashing it, absolutely unheard of prior to the election.
And again when you realize it is coming from people like Harkin who wrote it, "wow" is the perfect word for it. Lol.
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They should have allowed those in the individual market the ability to sign up with Medicare, and deal with the subsidy issue via the Earned Income Tax Credit. You could've written the law on a cocktail napkin.
Especially when the real intent behind Obamacare was to create yet another huge government bureaucracy and have the Federal Government ultimately take over another 15% of the economy, getting us that much closer to true socialism.
I still find it almost amusing that the American people are gullible enough to believe that you could simultaneously create this huge government bureaucracy, add millions of new people to the insurance rolls, allow for every preexisting condition, AND, get this, drum roll please, do all of this and reduce the price at the same time. PT Barnum was right about us.
add Gruber to PT Barnum's beliefs!
I still find it almost amusing that the American people are gullible enough to believe that you could simultaneously create this huge government bureaucracy, add millions of new people to the insurance rolls, allow for every preexisting condition, AND, get this, drum roll please, do all of this and reduce the price at the same time. PT Barnum was right about us.
Is there something you two should be telling the rest of us??? lol
I guess the band is back together again. Of course with fatgirl and Hadji running their mouths nonstop with foolishness, I guess it would take a return of benlanger or DaffyDuck to make this place any worse than it's been the last week or two. Or maybe the return of the original FatBoy
Have you ever heard of Lawrence O'Donnell rant on this? He said it just should have been sold as "Medicare for all" from day one and he makes a great point that there would have been tens of millions of built in "salesman" for the law (the elderly) that would have made the transition a piece of cake
I completely agree! If Obama had gone whole hog on universal coverage for all, the ACA would be more popular than it is right now. I cannot count the number of times this administration has gone out of its way to shoot itself in the foot. The rollout of the ACA program was an unmitigated disaster. I really think "moles " in the administration allied with the Clinton's failed healthcare plan had a big part to play in this disasterous rollout.
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It has been in the news the last few weeks, from Gruber to them cooking the books on enrollment to people using their HC less because it is too costly, etc etc etc.
This law is deeply and critically flawed but it made R's get off there ass and they will have to put something on paper with details to keep the little that is good and add all the important stuff left out from day one.
A true hybrid of ideas is needed. That will only occur if both parties will dare to put country first. You optimistic about that? lol
... or at least some form of referendum on the ACA.
I think I've said this before?
So after we get a look at the GOP having power in congress.
Also the laws they will try and pass.
The mid term elections will be long forgotten and power will shift again!
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along with all the other obama/dem fuck-ups
You're Welcome 96 times
Yeah I know and you know I know ....ha ha ha ha
2016 = GOP WH, Senate and House
Is it your comprehension
does a person get shit canned, for a while, for posting to a closed thread?
just asking
2016 = GOP WH, Senate and House
running away from obama on this and many other issues/policies.
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