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So intentionally but subtly off base and misinformed.  I love how you contradict your OP so completely.  It's like there's more than one of you inside that skull of yours.

Of course there's opportunities that crop up from time to time.   Of course such an overt act of war by killing Kim with a cruise missile wouldn't go over too well and may lead to unintentional consequences, but in that sick little mind of yours, who cares?

I hear a lot of whining  from disconnected citizens  with TDS, complaining about  the North Korean Nuclear issue not resolved by now,  though I never hear those intellectually bankrupt morons suggest  a solution.  
   
  The rest of you with mental clarity  feel free to add your two cents if you aren't completely broke,  or pick your best scenario solution  from the list below.  
   
A. Send  USA Special Forces team into North Korea to Assassinate Kim Jong-un, leave evidence making it appear the assassination team was  Russian.  

B. Same scenario as B, except make it appear the Assassination  team was Chinese.  
North Koreans aren't stupid, most  likely  they wouldn't  fall for the Lame Brain Game blaming their loss on Russians.  

C. Full force  Surprise Nuclear attack, turn North Korea landscape into instant glass.  

D.  Give North Korea a trillion dollars and a hundred  billion tons of food with hope they quit threatening us.  

E.  CIA detains Dennis Rodman, without letting him know inject deadly  poison into his bloodstream that will kill anyone in his vicinity  a week after exposure for the next 30 days.  Send him  on a good will tour to play basketball with Kim.  
Give Rodman the antidote when he arrives  back home.    
Remove and Replace all Jefferson Davis Statues in America to Statues of Dennis Rodman.    

F. Ignore Kim, like most fat ass heads he is full of shit and no threat to anyone, unless you have obsessive fear of  farts.  

G. Remove all our Military men, women and weapons within five  thousand miles of North Korea, so Kim doesn't  lay awake all night, feeling threated wondering when we will attack him.  

H. USA Special forces send missile with China serial numbers from  China's  border to assassinate Kim.

I. Don't worry about it, let Kim blow off some steam, the worst he could do is Nuke California, it's going to fracture off and fall into the Pacific  at some point in the future anyway.    
 If Kim  does  attack California, then it's time to turn  North Korea into a glass park.  
  If there are any trouble making Antifa remaining  outside of California after it's dropped into the abyss, send them and  their masks to their new home, The North Korea Skate Park.    

  I'm voting for the win win solution.......E  

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-asked-if-hed-attack-north-korea-says-well-see/ar-AAraI1u?li=BBnb7Kz

It'll be like killing two idiot with one bomb...

One of the turds floating in a WH toilet warns of massive military action against N. Korea?   Really?    You know for damn sure, this turd and the Clown can't do a thing without cooperation from China and Russia.     The little Kim knows it and he is playing on Clown's nerves challenging him to make the mistake.     It will be end of S. Korea and may be Japan.

Before we know it, any attack of N. Korea will turn S. Korea and Japan in to a rubble.     So it is attack one and lose two countries.     What a deal?

NYminute53 reads

In my short time here, have read many of your posts, well at least small portions, anyway.  Your verbosity is overwhelming and only further underscores your inability to make any sense.

 
Have also read other posts on this topic and you, consistently miss the point.  Nobody said there IS a "military" solution to the North Korea dilemma.  Most simply express their displeasure with our president, once again, spouting off as if there IS a simple solution and without thinking it out, with another of his emotional outbursts threatened North Korea with a military option which would be totally irresponsible.

 
So the point you continue to evade/miss, consistently, is his behavior and nonsensical outbursts.  Maybe this is how you are able to support Trump.  You ignore the salient facts of any situation and when he is wrong (and this is quite often), you deflect, ignore, and label the facts "fake news."  The fact here is; Trump suggested a military option, threatened to "bomb the hell out of North Korea if they threaten again," and then did not follow through (which would have been even more disastrous).  The "red line" he condemned when just a regular citizen, is the same "red line" he drew and then did not follow through on.  These are the FACTS;  more empty/thoughtless rhetoric, trying to use bullying as a national strategy--which fails terribly, and then doing exactly what he criticized others for doing.  Dummy squared, hypocrite to the third degree.  Open and shut case.

 
Remember Trump IS the president!  So many issues/problems he said had simple solutions.  Now he is in the "hot seat" and RESPONSIBLE for implementing HIS "simple solutions."  Let's see what HE does.  Let's be fair about the outcome HE influences.  Here is your chance at redemption.  Any response that does not address his behavior, nonsensical outbursts, and hypocritical behavior is just doo doo.  Just the facts, please.

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Both Russia and China are just as likely to be bit on the hand by the rabid dog Kim Jong-un. On the other hand, is it really so difficult to imagine a scenario of cooperation between the DPNK and Iran? This goes back to the days of the GW Bush administration when North Korea and Iran were part of the "Axis of Evil".  

No sir, I surmise and propose to you the astonishing concept that it is in fact IRANIAN money power and technology that are driving the rapid development of nuclear weapons technology in North Korea.

They were involved prior to the deal done by the Obama administration, but once those funds were released it opened the floodgates. Not just to billions of dollars in arms and monies funneled to Hezbollah, Hamas and other terrorist satellite organizations furthering the goal of and Islamist (Shiite) Persian Hegemony, but to their sinister cabal with North Korea to advance their nuclear program while the world clucks and blinks and looks the other way because according to the IAEA, Iranian sites they have visited are keeping to the spirit if not the letter of the agreement.

WHAT A STACK OF COWPIE PANCAKES!!!

Is it really that far off acceptable mainstream think to point out the timing of North Korea's magnitude leap in technology coinciding in perfect lockstep with the ending of financial sanctions to Iran?  

Consider the NK had managed yields in the 10-20 kiloton variety in their earlier tests. This last test was a hydrogen bomb, with a yield of 120 kt. I'm not a nuclear physicist, but that extraordinary leap in technological prowess did not come about as the result of years of trial and error and numerous tests using computer models and miniatures.

While the world looks on as Iran continues its plans of Hegemony by developing an unbroken landbridge from Tehran through Iraq into Syria and the Mediterranean coastline, using terrorism and propaganda as their methodology, the Evil Ayatollah's are forging ahead with their nuclear ambitions using the North Koreans as their Avatars and pawns in the larger game.

As to my solution...  
1 - Cut off their financial and technological funding at the source

2 - Forget the Israeli's and Arabs. That's an argument based on sibling rivalry and religious dogma and will not be resolved by natural means. It will require an Act of God. In other words, no chance. Reunification with South Korea is a better bet for a Diplomatic Grand Slam. An opening to the North Koreans based on their agricultural needs (iow, FOOD) might be one path.

3 - Next time someone wants to do an "interview", send Steven Spielberg and Tom Hanks, not Seth Rogen James Franco and Dennis Rodman.

 

Cheers

NYminute66 reads

doo doo, by another "Internet researcher" who does not know his ass from a hole in the ground!  I bet you'll go to webmd when you need major surgery, cut and paste a solution, and then die on the operating table after you make the first incision.  Yuck!!

 
Waaaaaaaaaay too much typing, with waaaaaaaaaaay too little concrete logic.  I suggest you go back to researching Betty Crocker recipes or go back to knitting.  At least if you fail on those, it will be in the privacy of your rest home and nobody but you and your nurse, will know how miserable you are at it.

 
From your post, it is obvious, you have grown accustomed to regurgitating short sighted conclusions that make you resemble a very stupid parrot.

How does Iran benefit by funding North Korea’s nuclear program?

 
That is the problem I have with your theory, aside from the fact that I have read nothing to support it. The CIA projected that Iran was unlikely to spend much of the sanctions money on funding Hezbollah or Syria, where it has deep investments, and so far that projection has proven accurate. Irani needed that money for its own economy. If they are not spending it to strengthen their Shite allies, or at least counter their Sunni enemies and Israel, why in the world would they spend it to aid NK?

Further, Iran sells oil to South Korea and Japan and has no incentive to jeopardize these buyers by jump starting the nuclear program.

The idea that NK will pay by providing Iran with nuclear technology is also misplaced, at least so far, as that would be a violation of the Iran agreement. We all know that Iran has complied with the agreement. Missile technology maybe.

So while your idea is interesting Doctor Gonzo, it is not logical.

Posted By: marikod
The idea that NK will pay by providing Iran with nuclear technology is also misplaced, at least so far, as that would be a violation of the Iran agreement. We all know that Iran has complied with the agreement. Missile technology maybe.  
   
 So while your idea is interesting Doctor Gonzo, it is not logical.
One can not use mainstream logic when it comes to either the Ayatollah's, or the DPNK under the Kim Dynasty (if you have to ask, don't read any further).

You didn't read anything about billions of dollars in cash going missing during the Gulf Wars until it was far too late to do anything but complain. But it turned out to be true. To the tune of $11 billion and counting to my best recollection.

You didn't read anything about Abu Ghraib and the crimes at Guantanamo until it was a fait accompli, and the sacrificial lambs aka grunts, foot-soldiers, infantry, those who were "just following orders" were offered up on a silver platter to the public for mass consumption, while the perpetrators on Level 5 at Washington, DC 22202 collect medals and "Harumph!" for their LePetomane Puppetmasters. (a little over the top ya?)

Back to the Real, Mari. I surmise, based on my own studies, research, OPINION, personal experiences and real world observations that there is no way under the conditions that we know of, where North Korea could make such a major leap in advancing the technology without major outside help.  

Now, look at the results of this latest test. If China has truly been involved, do you really think they would not have taken into account the potential for a catastrophic release of radiation into the atmosphere right next door? Not unless their programs of population control are so out of whack they felt the need for drastic measures... but we're nowhere near that tipping point.

The Russians would have the same concerns, unless you think they are ready to let go of 600,000 residents in Vladivostok, which would be directly in the path of any radiation cloud heading North East.

The Iranians on the other hand, have nothing to lose by redirecting their own nuclear ambitions in a collaborative effort with DPNK. And if your geography is lacking, its more than 6000 miles across China and 5 of the "Stans". Diplomatically, there are perfectly above board commercial flights between Tehran and Pyongyang via Beijing, on several Asian via multiple air carriers. And need I remind you that while the Iranians have allowed the IAEA inspectors to their now closed facilities. they have been refused access to ANY and ALL military installations. What was that you said? The silence is deafening.

So why is it so difficult to even consider the possibility, however remote you might think, that there is not some element of connection between the two governments, observable or covert?

How difficult do you think it is for a palette of dollar bills to fall of the truck like they did so often during the Gulf Wars and wind up in the hands of sinister outfits. And then find its way through back channels and black marketers to terror organizations? How easy do you think it is when the commodity being traded is information you can fit on a thumb drive...or the minds of brilliant scientists physicists and engineers flying commercial airliners to Beijing and then on to where did you say?

It is when you STOP applying the lessons of the media and start to put the pieces of the puzzle together you see a different perspective.

Mari, this is just an opinion, but one based on perspective and some serious dot-connecting. I do not reference any of my sources, but they typically have not been misdirected by the Sleight of Hand that has become in current times the Donald Trump Drama du Jour.

No, Marikod, it is not logical by the measuring stick of conventional and mainstream world politics.
Neither are the ambitions of Islamic Jihad, of which Iran is the worlds foremost enabler.
And Iran is Shiite, which are the enemies of the Sunni's led by Saudi Arabia.
Which is the worlds largest proponent of Sunni, who are the enemies of the Shiites.

Who are currently at war in Yemen. A once beautiful country and the former worlds largest source of frankincense myrrh and other rare herbs spices and healing resins used for thousands of years. Now close to extinction. Among other things.

No Marikod, there is no logic at work. Trying to apply conventional logic to our current world stage is short sighted and narrow minded. And with a hair trigger POTUS making life miserable for people who crave real news not Survivor: White House, we are getting more and more misdirection and less and less substance.

Maybe that's the real goal of the Russian influence in our elective process..... to distract us from the real moves being made on the other side of the game board.

The US is still playing geopolitics like it is a chess board.

It isn't. It's the game of GO, and we are not in good position.

I would not call your argument “opinion” – I would call it “speculation.”

        Here’s why. If there was even a TINY piece of evidence supporting the notion that Iran is either funding NK nuclear or missile technology, or actually supplying the technology, then Trump would not be certifying the Iran Agreement because this would be an actual breach of the agreement.  

       He has instructed his flunkies to “find a breach” but so far they have been unable to do so.  Per the agreement, the military bases are not prima facie subject to inspection – there is a complex procedure that must be followed and the IAEA has not even started the procedure bc there is no evidence of Iranian violation. So it is Trump not Iran who is violating the agreement by insisting on military base inspections without following the procedure.

         Note also that the technology actually flows the other way – from NK to Iran. Iran has no nuclear or ballistic missile technology to export-  NK is way ahead of them in both areas.

       So at best your theory has validity that sanctions money is secretly being shipped to NK by Iran, even though Iran desperately needs to apply that money to its own economy and, if any is left, to support its Middle East adventures.

         Yes it is possible Doctor Gonzo. But if this was True, or if a credible argument could be made,  or even if it met the standard "Obama is wiretapping Trump Tower" Trump would be tweeting about this and the Iran Agreement would be history. That he has not raised your argument tells me it is still in the realm of pure speculation and “anything is possible.”

But if the facts subsequently show you to be right, I will be the first to say "you nailed it."

1. We know that NK is a very poor country where starvation is not uncommon. Everything is in short supply.  Are there reliable estimates of NK's stored resources for a sustained conventional ground war? Troops need food, gasoline, electricity, etc.. How many days (or weeks or months ... or years) can the NK fight as the resources are used up? Any military or intelligence agency have an answer?  (I would assume that China, Russia or others would not provide extensive (or any) resupply while a real war was raging. If I am wrong about that, please say so.)  
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2. Wouldn't China want to see the NK regime collapse and unification of NK and SK? Presumably, this would drain the SK economy for several years as they tried to help the North recover from 60+ years of insane leadership. As SK sinks, the Chinese economy could grow. (I would expect a unified Korea to rebound, as did a unified Germany, but I think the immediate effect would be to create a huge opportunity for China.)  
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Having a pro-West neighbor on their current NK border might be a factor, but who would ever invade China by land, and why?
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3. Oops. Not a Q. I don't care how many nuclear weapons NK has: ONE is too many. Exploded over SK, Japan, Guam or anyplace else, it creates a radiation cloud that will spread around the globe. Kim is an unpredictable, untrustable nut job. I can't believe that the NK military hasn't overthrown him yet.  Get rid of Kim (permanently), get yourself arrested and executed, but let sane leadership take over. You'll be a hero to the country, in the long run and maybe get your picture on a coin or bank note.

Thank you for confirming you are just a troll without conviction that bombs this board.  Your suggestions are those that could only come from the mind of a 13 year old who has taken his comic books or as he puts it, his "Graphic Novels", way too seriously.  Or, a 50ish mumu dude posting on mom's wifi from the basement who plays a lot of Call of Duty.

I just got back from ROK and believe me they are more scared of what President Dumbass will do then they are of Kim Jung Un.  They key to dealing with Kim is understanding his desire to be taken seriously.  Same as Trump.  There are of course cultural and key political differences that make Kim the clear winner between the two on the stubborn little boy attitude.   Throughout the history of the Kim dynasty in the North, it has always acted like a petulant step child.   The key is to understand that when dealing with a child, sometimes you have to praise with a cookie as well as discipline with a spanking.

Currently we have about 24,000 boots OTG in the ROK.  On the other side of the DMZ, there are about 750,000 North Korean troops, all within 45 minutes of downtown Seoul.  Even with our current fleet and force projection, we could not stop a PRK onslaught without taking out Seoul ourselves.

And where do you suppose Kim is now, so we could effectively assignation him?  What plans has he told his closest disciples to execute in case of his death?  I can tell you that our intelligence in the PRK is dismally and dreadfully  sparse at best.

So great job on the fantastic troll post.  I may consider letting you impregnate one of my pets.

...by his own admission, he is a ninth grade dropout.  He has the educational level of a 13 year old as well.

I don't read comic books, I've never played "Call of Duty", my Mom died when I was young, fortunately she didn't send me to public schools, always treated me with love, she taught me right from wrong and never abuse animals.
    I cherish her memory more than anything.  
 
Evidently you are drastically  more ignorant than you imagine, if we wanted to kill Kim Jung - un  with a missile he would already be dead.  

http://www.businessinsider.com/why-us-didn-t-kill-kim-jong-un-icbm-test-july-4-2017-7
 
   
 Fortunately MAGA President Trump recognizes the millions and millions of consequences we witnessed  eliminating   Mohamed Gadhafi,  with the helpful blessings off King Foreign Affairs Dunce, President  Barrack Obama.

 By the way,  you are one sick gross bitch to offer  your pets up for sex while  fantasizing  of an impossible pregnancy.  
         If your  husband beats  you,  gives you no right to abuse animals, stupid vindictive  woman.  

So intentionally but subtly off base and misinformed.  I love how you contradict your OP so completely.  It's like there's more than one of you inside that skull of yours.

Of course there's opportunities that crop up from time to time.   Of course such an overt act of war by killing Kim with a cruise missile wouldn't go over too well and may lead to unintentional consequences, but in that sick little mind of yours, who cares?

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