And all the board righties pooh-pooh'ed me saying these fruitcakes were a real threat. Now they're killing cops.

The so-called "sovereign citizens" make no claims with regard to religion. Nor are they right wing for that matter. Why do you constantly insist on making something seem like something it is not?

Furthermore, to date, this is the first time anyone associated with this group has committed murder. Do these TWO individuals represent an entire segment of society? If that is the case, lets just ban all liberal left wingers since Laughton was a left winger. He killed some folks too, remember?

Lastly, Willy when are you going to have anything to say about eco-terrorists who commit HUNDREDS of millions of dollars in acts of arson and vandalism EVERY. SINGLE. YEAR. They've been doing it for YEARS now, and you are silent as a church mouse about them.

bullshit. Read it twice, and never did see the words 'right wing Christian terrorists' anywhere.

In addition, one wacko's son, murders 2 police officers, and an entire organization becomes right wing christian terrorists. Guess in willy's mind, that makes all pro-lifers murderers, after a few wacko's kill abortion doctors.

I believe that most people would agree that deliberate misrepresentation of the facts is on a par with lying.

Can anyone disagree that the OP is a deliberate misrepresentation of the facts?

Willy is a fucking liar, the prosecution rests. Unless of course anyone would like to dispute my claim.

The problem with this logic is that there is no correlation to a member's action being sanctioned by any group he/she may belong to or even be associated with.   Remember when Osama endorsed Obama?  We certainly wouldn't apply your logic to that scenario would we.

Essentially, you've found an article reference in need of being used to prove something.  Unfortunately, this isn't it.

Probably because he wants to make some convoluted attempt to paint the "sovereign citizens"  as "Christian terrorists" is the only he respectfully refers to them as "police officers" rather than his usual "pigs".

Mr. Wonka has been spreading those distortions and misquotes since the day he showed up here.  Hence the reason his comments are nearly always ignored except to call him out on such crap.  It's really sad to think that someone has nothing better to do in order to be heard except to make up lies on a public forum just to be able to get a response out of someone even when the response calls you out.  Sort of like the kid who always misbehaves just to get attention.... so sad

pushed by  William Gale and the  Posse    Comitatus movement that I am pointing out  is based on a perverted form of Christianity  as referenced by the links above that the  "sovereign citizen"are said to  abide by . Now did those nut jobs follow it  and use that thinking  in a distorted way that killed the cops that is  questionable and not one I  raised but I am showing that ''sovereign citizen'' is far right wing and has that strain  that is founded on  warped Christian  values.

http://www.start.umd.edu/start/data_collections/tops/terrorist_organization_profile.asp?id=110

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paints a picture of a bunch of church goers who blow people up. Any movement or group has an ideology that they organize around. That ideology, typically can be traced to a philosophy, theology, world view, etc. To hold such doesn't require one to go to church. What makes someone Christian is not just what they believe, but how they live their life. If someone has an ideology connected to a theology, in this case extremely loosely connected, but doesn't participate in any kind of religious or worship services, I would question how valid it is to call them Christian.

Since you like to paint with a broad brush...

Bernie Ward, Iconic Liberal talk show host of the left in San Francisco, was found to have kiddie porn in his posession. He was tried and convicted for it as well.

So if I use your "broad brush" approach, I guess I know what I would find if I looked on your hard drive...

Why don't you think before you post....

BbWWwaaaahahahahaha !!!!  You are the King of Irony !!!!