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USGrantlover 221 Reviews 309 reads
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Was that a condition of your "parole?" You'd have to eliminate your idiotic, repetitive child like picture "stories?" They were quite useful actually. Moron.

http://www.militarytimes.com/articles/trump-paints-dismal-picture-of-todays-military

Our military is so depleted that we only have 19 aircraft carriers, more than the rest of the world combined.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/navy-ships/g2412/a-global-roundup-of-aircraft-carriers/

Our arch enemy Russia has only one aircraft carrier which belches black smoke, breaks down, has to be accompanied by a tug boat and doesn't have our catapult launching system.  Instead, the bow is tilted up like a skateboard ramp.

China has one aircraft carrier which they bought from Russia 20 years ago as scrap.  They're building their own carrier but it won't be finished until 2020.

Yes, "depleted."

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The Donald is delusional..

nuguy46212 reads

Obama took down the military...read the numbers...'50's style phones in nuke bunkers to communicate...10 of 12 USMC helo squads cannot fly due to parts shortages... ask the military leaders...they tell a much different story than the so-called experts on this board.

so you're comparing apples to oranges. Its not smart to bring guns to a drone fight.

Also, I'm not sure how your laying ICBM stuff at Obamas feet. Our nuke capabilities haven't changed long before he took office. As far as USMC Budgets, talk to the Department of the Navy. The army has brand new equipment coming out its ass.

Posted By: nuguy46
Obama took down the military...read the numbers...'50's style phones in nuke bunkers to communicate...10 of 12 USMC helo squads cannot fly due to parts shortages... ask the military leaders...they tell a much different story than the so-called experts on this board.

If you have 19 screwdrivers and no hammer, but you need to drive a nail, do you figure you have enough tools?  
Pretty sure Trump is going to pay close attention to his SecDef, Gen Mattis.

says who?
 

Posted By: followme
The Navy has 10 (active) Aircraft Carriers the other 9 are actually Helicopter carriers and classified as Amphibious assault ships not true aircraft carriers.  
   
 Technology is not a reason to shrink the military  
   
   
   
 http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/08/11/air-force-struggling-with-fighter-pilot-shortage-amid-ongoing-air-wars.html  
   
   
 http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/08/11/air-force-struggling-with-fighter-pilot-shortage-amid-ongoing-air-wars.html  
   
 http://www.navy.mil/navydata/ships/carriers/cv-list.asp  
   
   
 http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/24/us-military-decimated-under-obama-only-marginally-/  
   
   
   
 You're Welcome  
 In BrokeBackBully We Distrust  
 

brooks5178 reads

Putin

Vlad only got so much jam! ;)

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We wouldn't dare sail one thru the South China Sea in the event of war with China. They'd launch a salvo of 1000 missiles at it needing only one to hit. We couldn't stop them all.  

Btw, only 10 of our carriers are true multi aircraft platforms. And that's down from 11 when your hero took office.  

Would you like to borrow my Janes so you don't look so ignorant next time? Nah I didn't think so.

followme276 reads

CVN's are necessary and important in many areas like the PG, The Med. Westpac Japan, Korea and yes the South China Sea too. They travel with some pretty well armed body guards, and a few more (CVN's and body guards) would not hurt

They are useful for projecting power in areas not threatened by full scale assault by major powers with land and even advanced airborne missile systems. Aegis is dated but still advanced but can be overwhelmed. They're fat juicy targets in confined spaces against a power lol like China on their "turf." I don't care how many destroyers, frigates we have, which today is not nearly enough, china has a lot more cheap, accurate and deadly anti-ship missiles. In times of "peace" they're useful. In times of war, not nearly so. We need a lot more subs and smaller surface ships today than we do carriers. They're cheaper and more versatile and in the case of subs can choke off the South China Sea. CVN's today are the BB's of the 1930's when it comes to full fledged war. One DF-21 much less a DF-26 with a range of 2600 miles a CVN becomes a floating pyre. We couldn't stop them all. And we know it. I'm not sure even a master naval tactician like Trump would dare sail a carrier battle group right by say Frigate Shoals in times of peace much less time of war. Oh. And the F-35 is junk complicating carrier capabilities even further.  

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Timbow373 reads

https://theaviationist.com/2016/03/01/heres-what-ive-learned-so-far-dogfighting-in-the-f-35-a-jsf-pilot-first-hand-account/
I am a military aircraft amateur photographer and know a pro that works with F-35 guys taking side by shots from a Bonanza. He has seen the F-35 do things a Viper could only dream of doing.  

Posted By: USGrantlover
They are useful for projecting power in areas not threatened by full scale assault by major powers with land and even advanced airborne missile systems. Aegis is dated but still advanced but can be overwhelmed. They're fat juicy targets in confined spaces against a power lol like China on their "turf." I don't care how many destroyers, frigates we have, which today is not nearly enough, china has a lot more cheap, accurate and deadly anti-ship missiles. In times of "peace" they're useful. In times of war, not nearly so. We need a lot more subs and smaller surface ships today than we do carriers. They're cheaper and more versatile and in the case of subs can choke off the South China Sea. CVN's today are the BB's of the 1930's when it comes to full fledged war. One DF-21 much less a DF-26 with a range of 2600 miles a CVN becomes a floating pyre. We couldn't stop them all. And we know it. I'm not sure even a master naval tactician like Trump would dare sail a carrier battle group right by say Frigate Shoals in times of peace much less time of war. Oh. And the F-35 is junk complicating carrier capabilities even further.  
   
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Just because it's acrobatic doesn't mean shit. Relative to its absurd cost, it's a pile of junk. For sure. Did you know a P47 could be built for $47,000? Yet today an F35 costs $150M. Seriously? And to boot it has serious design and performance flaws. Granted, most new programs do but for $150M each don't you think they'd be few far between? I would think so. Glad your photographer likes them. Let's see how much the israeli's like them by taking more than just two. I'm wagering they'll be begging for Raptors soon enough. They don't have any carriers. That I am aware of. 🙄 Look at the entire picture. I stand by my comment until proven wrong.

Timbow350 reads

Quote :
The security cabinet decided unanimously on Sunday to purchase 17 additional F-35 stealth fighter jets from the United States. The Prime Minister's Bureau said the new purchase will bring the number of F-35s in the Israel Air to 50.
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.755641
The photograher talks to pilots who actually fly the jet.

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"Taken delivery of." My mistake. Let's see how many they actually take. Hopefully by then they'll have the kinks worked out. I take it the $150M per plane price is not a concern for you?  Do you think if offered the F22 they'd of still taken the F35? I don't.

followme269 reads

the libs/dems were yelling, screaming, cheering and celebrating the demise of the republican party, guess the joke is on them.

Two disgraced DNC chairs within months, the dem president leaving office after 8 years with no real accomplishments and desperately very desperately gasping to secure his legacy, a legacy that is not there, except in his mind of fantasy.
Not to mention he is trashing the place (The place being the United States of America) in a real hissy fit cause he LOST

bigguy30370 reads

The last few comments you posted are really suspect.
Also this one comment in particular shows why you are a clueless.

Posted By: ed2000
Like all the black lives he's depleted due to his politicization of policing.
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bigguy30428 reads

I love how you keep embarrassing yourself on here.
 

Posted By: JakeFromStateFarm
Just one more lie from our fat fool.
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If he doesn't post something of substance very soon he will have worn out a very short welcome back.

bigguy30297 reads

They keep getting worst and make you sound like a fool.

Posted By: ed2000
Try posting some refutation.

Either have a discussion or quit responding. Shit or get off the pot.

bigguy30372 reads

So playing dumb now is not helping your case.
Also making assumptions without any facts.
Just proves why you are missing the point and a fool.

I don't do pot and never have smart ass.
It might explain your own comments on here now.

Posted By: ed2000
Either have a discussion or quit responding. Shit or get off the pot.
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Posted By: bigguy30

I don't do pot and never have smart ass.  
Posted By: ed2000
Either have a discussion or quit responding. Shit or get off the pot.

Was that a condition of your "parole?" You'd have to eliminate your idiotic, repetitive child like picture "stories?" They were quite useful actually. Moron.

bigguy30238 reads

So please keep making a fool out of yourself.
I love laughing at your stupidity.

Posted By: USGrantlover
Was that a condition of your "parole?" You'd have to eliminate your idiotic, repetitive child like picture "stories?" They were quite useful actually. Moron.

brooks5292 reads

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