Politics and Religion

Another complex predicament
WomanLvr 55 reads
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Remember why we even went to Afghanistan in the first place.  Our objective was to stop Osama Bin Ladin and in the heat of 9/11.  There is NO win in Afghanistan.  They have been fighting each other for centuries and are a completely tribalcentric country, plus or minus the Taliban (or any insurgent group that may follow them in the future).  We keep trying to inject our values and our way of government on other countries and it does not work.  So much corruption in Afghanistan, no central government will ever have the trust of the forces that tear this country apart.

Primary premise is that we will never end terrorism.  It is a very powerful buzz word often misused to increase military funding levels and extend government contracts to line the pockets of those who influence our politicians the most.

The goal should be to find a way to withdraw all of our military forces in the most efficient, expeditious way and continue to focus on our intelligence efforts to detect and obstruct the plans of terrorists.  Again, remembering, that our chances of ever being affected by terrorism is  higher than getting struck by lightning three times.  That's why we call it "terrorism."  The fear of these efforts have significantly more impact than the physical damage they cause.  

In summary;  We can not win in Afghanistan militarily, only a political solution will change anything over there and a political solution is not likely.  We will never eliminate terrorism, any idiot can go into a public place, at any time, with impunity, with just a vehicle and kill people.  We must accept the facts of life, get over the psychological damage caused by the billions of dollars and countless lost lives we have already spent in that theater, and establish a strategy with objectives that live up to reality!

So if the Clown decides to send more American sons and daughters to fight in Afghanistan, why not start with his two sons, son in law and daughter?    Have them serve and fight for the country that is becoming "so great".

That will at least help Secret Service from going bankrupt protecting these private citizens going around the country and overseas running their private businesses.

...whore anyway so she should be sent to the front lines to service our soldiers.  Maybe the name "Trump" will become synonymous with "whore" just as "hooker" has become synonymous with General Joseph Hooker even though the story isn't true.  But isn't "Trump" synonymous with "whore" already?

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Seriously Tiff in off limits in this.  She hardly knows her father, who rejected her as Caitlin Stark rejected Jon Snow.

But your proposal that in the future Hookers wil henceforth be called Trumpets...  Oh wait, wasn't that what they were called in 19th Century England?   History repeated itself or was that a prediction of the future?    I'm gonna go throw up so I can drink some more now...  But at this stage of my self induced dementia, I'm sort of Thinking Trump makes a lot of sense.  But would you give me the keys to your car right now?  

Thank God I'll be sober tomorrow.

...on Election Night and she was at the inauguration too.  Are you saying she wasn't a willing participant?  If she "hardly knows her father", she could have told him to fuck off.

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He was the one who cut troop levels there to focus on the wrong war in Iraq.  By the time Obama surged troop levels there it was too late.  Now it's still too late.  More money and lives wasted.  There is NO good outcome there.

So, 4000 more fine men and women to the battlefield that is active for what like 15 years.    The Russians invaded and occupied for 10 years and left with bloody bruised and beaten up.

I still repeat my annoyance.     Hey clown, why not send your two sons, your son in law and daughter to fight in Afghanistan?     That will save the US Secret Service and American tax payers tons of money.     It appears USSS is going bankrupt protecting you and your family.

Whether it's Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, whatever, the Brits and French drew some imaginary lines in the sand to create these countries. Have you noticed an American Captain or Major ends up in a tent talking to some tribal leader about giving him some goats and M&M's, so his troops have free passage into an area that looks like the fucking Mojave Desert.  These countries are not run by Presidents or Prime Ministers. They are run by families, clans and tribes, and have been for a thousand years.  

What are they in Afghanistan, mostly Sunnis? Find a way to lead them West to Iran, and let them fuck with the Shiites. Ever notice Iran really doesn't have an issue with us being in Afghanistan?

Did you know it was actually a well-meaning but ignorant female member of the British foreign service who drew up the post-WWI map of the Middle East, ignoring history, tribal loyalties and religious sects?
Your man Lawrence has been rolling in his grave for quite some time.
Oh, well. We now have someone at least as dumb running our little pop stand.

Better known as Uday and Qusay. Send them out to fight the Taliban but don't tell them that these mother fuckers actually SHOOT BACK!! Let see how tough are these silver spoon pussies.

-- Modified on 8/21/2017 9:45:22 PM

WomanLvr56 reads

Remember why we even went to Afghanistan in the first place.  Our objective was to stop Osama Bin Ladin and in the heat of 9/11.  There is NO win in Afghanistan.  They have been fighting each other for centuries and are a completely tribalcentric country, plus or minus the Taliban (or any insurgent group that may follow them in the future).  We keep trying to inject our values and our way of government on other countries and it does not work.  So much corruption in Afghanistan, no central government will ever have the trust of the forces that tear this country apart.

Primary premise is that we will never end terrorism.  It is a very powerful buzz word often misused to increase military funding levels and extend government contracts to line the pockets of those who influence our politicians the most.

The goal should be to find a way to withdraw all of our military forces in the most efficient, expeditious way and continue to focus on our intelligence efforts to detect and obstruct the plans of terrorists.  Again, remembering, that our chances of ever being affected by terrorism is  higher than getting struck by lightning three times.  That's why we call it "terrorism."  The fear of these efforts have significantly more impact than the physical damage they cause.  

In summary;  We can not win in Afghanistan militarily, only a political solution will change anything over there and a political solution is not likely.  We will never eliminate terrorism, any idiot can go into a public place, at any time, with impunity, with just a vehicle and kill people.  We must accept the facts of life, get over the psychological damage caused by the billions of dollars and countless lost lives we have already spent in that theater, and establish a strategy with objectives that live up to reality!

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