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And that's not going to mean shit in 2014.
willywonka4u 22 Reviews 2606 reads
posted
1 / 20

Cheering for the underdog is one thing, but nobody cheers for a loser. And this is why the Democrats are going to get their asses handed to them in 2014.

What if your job was a Democratic strategist. Can you imagine how dumb you'd have to be to pursue gun control?

Consider the following: This is what Democrats had to gain by pushing gun control at the federal level. Best case scenario, the legislation is passed by the Senate, and it dies in the House. So in other words, your pay off is exactly ZERO.

So, then you gotta ask, what do you RISK by pushing this legislation that is doomed to fail?

1) Many Republicans have been demoralized since Bush left office. Many have stayed home on election day. This issue could rally them to the polls.

2) In 2014, the Obama Election Machine will not be working for the Democrats. They're on their own.

3) The President's party almost always loses some seats in the mid-terms. The buyer's remorse syndrome kicks in.

So then you gotta ask, what does the election map look like? If you guessed it won't look good for the Dems, then you guessed right.

Check out the wiki link below.

How many Republicans will be defending their Senate seats in blue states? The answer? One. That would be Susan Collins of Maine.

How many Democrats will be defending their Senate seats in red and swing states?

There are Democratic incumbents up for election in states like Montana, Colorado, New Mexico, Arkansas, Louisiana, North Carolina, and Virginia. Minnesota, which is traditionally a very blue state, is also quite rural, and a Senate seat is up for grabs there as well.

Making matters worse for the Dems, Democratic Senators will be retiring in states like South Dakota, Iowa, Michigan, and West Virginia.

So in other words, the ability of the Dems to pick up seats in the Senate in 2014 is almost nill. On the other hand, the GOP has a good fighting chance to pick up as many as 10 seats. If that happens, after 2014, the GOP will have a 55 seat majority in the Senate.

The GOP only has to beat 4 Democrats to take back control of the Senate.

So, risking all this, the Dems thought it was a good idea to pursue gun control at the federal level. Talk about fuck-tarded.

Oh, and there's one last thing that the Dems won with this failed legislation. They demonstrated, once again, that even with a majority in the Senate, they are weak and powerless to get things done. In other words, the Dems just proved to the entire nation that they're a bunch of fucking losers. And nobody likes a loser. They certainly don't tend to vote for them.

The Dems will rue the day they ever tried to pass gun control.

mattradd 40 Reviews 657 reads
posted
2 / 20

it won't be because of failed gun legislation, since the majority of Americans and NRA members are for background checks, and the majority of Americans are in favor of bans on assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. In other words, the Reps, will not pickup many seats in blue states, merely because of this past episode of gun legislation. You are wildly overstating your case. Indeed, if the Reps. aren't careful regarding gun legislation, and immigration reform, anti-abortion laws, and the push for smaller government at the expense if creating more jobs, they may be pushed into looking too radical to vote for. And, the NRA may not be as such a potent weapon in their arsenal as they've been previously. See attached link!

-- Modified on 4/19/2013 1:56:00 PM

willywonka4u 22 Reviews 656 reads
posted
3 / 20

Facts are facts, Laffytunes. Look, every 2 years one third of the Senate is up for election. Senators serve 6 year terms.

This means that whenever there's a big shift in the balance of power in the Senate, 6 years later that shift could return to where it was.

So what happened 6 years prior to the 2014 election? Obama came into office in 2008. The Dems won a two thirds majority in the Senate that year.

Oh-oh.

willywonka4u 22 Reviews 578 reads
posted
4 / 20

The only way they don't win the Senate in 2014 is if they nominate some of the fucking idiotic candidates. I'm not sure if they've learned their lesson from that yet.

GaGambler 621 reads
posted
5 / 20

They could put up Todd Akin as their poster boy and run on social conservatism. That would equal things out in a hurry.

My hunch is that 2014 will look more like 2010 than 2012, they can't possibly be that stupid, can they? and yes, that was a rhetorical question.

BigPapasan 3 Reviews 584 reads
posted
6 / 20

...because of the NRA's opposition to background checks.  He pointed out that Wayne LaPierre supported background checks in 1999 but has turned the NRA into lobbyists for gun manufacturers.

Willy - a rifle in one cold, dead hand and a baggy of weed in the other.

salonpas 512 reads
posted
7 / 20

......the new immigration bill will create should keep Democrats in the WH for at least the next century. Plus 50,000 latino's turning 18 every month is a disaster for Republicans

salonpas 721 reads
posted
8 / 20

I would NOT bet the ranch, not with the crazy wacko's who have been winning RECENT Republican primaries.

willywonka4u 22 Reviews 564 reads
posted
9 / 20

My understand is that Jim DeMint had a lot to do with pushing for the most radical candidates possible. His outing from the Senate was, in a sense, punishment for the GOP losing so many seats they should have won.

The GOP could fuck this up, but I think they will be on their A game in 2014. Obama might as well take a nap for the next 4 years.

mattradd 40 Reviews 784 reads
posted
10 / 20

with his organization to finance "winnable" candidates over the teabaggers, but he's getting his ass handed to him, and Haley Barbour has walked out on him. It could get pretty messy.

-- Modified on 4/19/2013 1:52:52 PM

willywonka4u 22 Reviews 653 reads
posted
11 / 20

This will go down as the dumbest strategic move by a major political party since Dukakis decided it was a good idea to ride a fucking tank.

mattradd 40 Reviews 785 reads
posted
12 / 20

Of course, he could have just been putting a positive spin on it. I do think he has more power at the Heritage Foundation than he had in the Senate. Who has more political power; a Senator or Grover Norquist?

tonightoutcall 569 reads
posted
13 / 20

The next century? I d call bullshit on that or bet you an overnight with your choice of provider. If they hold the white house through the next three presidential elections I d be surprised. Obama care has to have some level of success in the next 5 yrs for the dems to win. If its a total cluster fuck I d bet it happens sooner rather than later.  

Posted By: salonpas
......the new immigration bill will create should keep Democrats in the WH for at least the next century. Plus 50,000 latino's turning 18 every month is a disaster for Republicans.  
   
 

tonightoutcall 653 reads
posted
14 / 20

It doesnt even matter what they offer. If Obama care is a complete cluster fuck it would be very hard for them to win. Maybe they will offer single payer, and maintain it was their idea. I was stating that dems or reps dont hold the white house for more then 12 yrs consecutively max.

salonpas 818 reads
posted
15 / 20

......of gay, minority, women's rights, just as Laffy as stated.

Posted By: tonightoutcall
    The next century? I d call bullshit on that or bet you an overnight with your choice of provider. If they hold the white house through the next three presidential elections I d be surprised. Obama care has to have some level of success in the next 5 yrs for the dems to win. If its a total cluster fuck I d bet it happens sooner rather than later.  
   
Posted By: salonpas
......the new immigration bill will create should keep Democrats in the WH for at least the next century. Plus 50,000 latino's turning 18 every month is a disaster for Republicans.  
     
 

Snowman39 697 reads
posted
16 / 20

If 90% REALLY WANTED IT, it would have passed. Whenever 90% of Americans agree on something, the politicians knock each other over to give it to them.

Obama quotes a poll which was conducted in some of the most liberal states in the country and only idiots run around quoting polls like that and believing them (thus the title of my post here).

BTW, Senators represent their STATES, not the country. Based on the lack of political understanding you constantly show on this board, I am not surprised you could not figure that out.

willywonka4u 22 Reviews 776 reads
posted
17 / 20

When you ask the question a little different, gun control becomes a LOT less popular than the Dems seem to believe it is.

The simple fact is that the Dems are really living in a bubble on this one. Not every American is a pencil necked geek or a middle aged lesbian. What plays well in Connecticut, New York, Maryland, and Illinois will NOT play well in Texas, Arkansas, Louisiana or North Carolina.

Timbow 656 reads
posted
18 / 20

Quote :
 NRA President David Keene was so irked by Manchin that he hung up on the senator when Manchin called to pester Keene during a trout-fishing trip to Montana last week.

“Unfortunately, I took my cell phone with me and my cell phone rings in the midst of my float and it’s Joe Manchin, who’s talking about how reasonable his idea is,” Keene told the Examiner. “And finally I said, ‘Look, I’m in the middle of the Missouri River, I’ve got a trout on the line. I don’t agree; you will have to make your own decisions.’ And I hung up.”
http://www.enlightenedredneck.com/2013/04/19/the-day-the-nra-hung-up-on-joe-manchin

willywonka4u 22 Reviews 604 reads
posted
19 / 20

...remember those little things we have called elections? They're nothing more than propaganda campaigns run by public relations agencies. It doesn't matter that the GOP is on the wrong side of every issue. The GOP only has to be on the right side of ONE issue, and be really good at lying about their opponents. Gee, that's never happened, has it? (cough, cough, Swift boat, cough)

This is the deal. Suppose you and I were playing a game. The goal of this game is to throw a baseball at a target and hit a bullseye. Whoever gets the most bullseye's win.

Now, you will get just 1 baseball to try to win.

I will get 10 baseballs to try to win.

How do you feel about your chances of winning the game?

willywonka4u 22 Reviews 619 reads
posted
20 / 20

...but once I got into your 3rd sentence, I realized it was just going to be more of your gossip-drama, and I ran out of enough give-a-shit to keep reading.

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