It's that time of year, the NFL will be put on the spotlight and their reaction to this whole police brutality issue. Oh and Drew Bree sure didn't help himself or the situation with his comments and his two "walk back" haven't settled in..yet.
So looks like the kneeling may take place again but with a broader participation. Looks like more marque players are getting involved and this just might resonate through out the league. This one just feel different.  
I don't think the argument that it's Anti Military or un-patriotic will fly....Nah not this time, but to some...it'll bug them. But will they NOT watch football? No sports on TV for awhile, they've been bored and they need to bust out.  
With potentially empty stadiums, will more players take a knee? No one in the stands, who will see....Cameras can focus on the flag and not the kneeing I dunno. It'll be there and it could be hard to ignore but....
I never found the first "Colin Kaepernick" to be offensive to the flag or military...But I got the message, I get it.  
And just another tibbit, I'm not an NFL guy so maybe that's why I couldn't give a shit.

I am not much of a flag waver in the first place, but I am offended when I pay to be "entertained" and the people I am paying to entertain me try to influence me politically, religiously or in any other way.  

He doesn't like people protesting America before kick off, and the anthem and flag represent AMERICA, and not a few, rogue, white racist cops.  

appreciate all it stands for and respect all the sacrifices that have made to support OUR way of life.

But he realized that being a leader on the team what he said probably didn't help him in the locker room. But that's for him to evaluate. I'm not protecting his blind side so I can't say.
And FYI, Colin Kaepernick has been out of the league for awhile.again Jack, relax

He "might" be a trivial pursuit trivia question by now as almost everyone would have forgotten his name. I feel about him about the same way I feel about Caitlyn Jenner and the Kardashians, shameless self promoters, all of them.

But let me ask. Why do the kneelers not have to worry about the "locker room?" Many guys on those teams are offended by it.

have two entirely different interpretations of this.

YOU'RE defending Colin Kaepernick? A communist, murderer lover who calls cops "pigs?" That's who your defending? Thats' the guy you think should be the head of that movement? Or ANY movement?

I've had conflicted feelings on this in the past but no more. I think ALL Confederate statues on public property should come down and be moved to private sites. They are nothing more than monuments to slavery and treason.
Now what do we do with statues of founders such as Washington, Jefferson, etc. who also were slave holders?
I honestly don't know.

A good number of the owners are liberals, or at least Democrats, and thus would be more open to a CK argument and yet none of them did i.e. hire him.

Not to mention he didn't start protesting until he started warming the bench and had nothing to lose.

he is trying to draw attention to.  In this imperfect world, at a time when we continue to "kick this can down the road," but are making little progress, yes, I will hop on any bandwagon that attempts to shine a light on this entire racial injustice matter.  As long as that bandwagon is just, non-violent, and does not severely infringe on the rights of other.

...but still see CK as scum. The two are not mutually exclusive.  

participant in demonstrating my outrage at unfairness or racial prejudice of any kind.  Not pious or self-righteous by any means but have been in a number of make or break situations that fortunately, have gone my way because the mechanism available to deal with them, was forced to treat me fairly.  Maybe my upbringing as well, but I lean very heavily in that direction when conscious of it.

documentary on U. H. Grant (yes H., "S" was NOT his middle initial).  Not sure he had a choice and clearly the complexities of reuniting the union were challenging.  But Grant went to West Point, with Lee and many of he confederate generals he fought against.

I've actually read the biography of Grant by Ron Chernow on which the docu you saw is based. First, a minor point. His name at birth was Hiram Ulysses Grant but he didn't like it that his initials spelled "HUG." So he dropped Hiram, Then after he won his first big battles and, when asked for terms, he demanded "unconditional surrender," his troops dubbed him "Unconditional Surrender" Grant, or US Grant. He was never given, or took, the middle name Simpson.
Oh, and the founder of the KKK was Nathan Bedford Forrest, a former Confederate cavalry commander.
Now, as to the slavery issue, I agree with Laffy that the founders who were slave owners weren't also treasonous, except to England. That said, the founders made a "deal with the devil," permitting slavery because they knew the union could never be created unless the slave states were allowed their "peculiar institution." They assumed slavery would whither on the vine, but it didn't, in part because the invention of the Cotton Gin sparked a boom in cotton growing and slave labor was needed to pick it.
Even Lee and Jackson were uncomfortable with slavery and, like the founders, hoped it would whither away. Others, like Alexander Stephens, VP of the Confederacy, considered it natural, moral and lawful. Anyone who tells you the Civil War was fought over states rights and not slavery is full of shit. The "right" that the South was fighting for was the right to own slaves. But Lee, Jackson and their brethren had a choice to make: the oath they'd sworn to the Union or the bonds they felt to their state. The choice they made, made them traitors.  
Finally, while it doesn't absolve them, the Civil War era was a VERY different time. Back then, only 80 years after the Revolution, the national government was still new and most peoples' allegiance was to their state. The idea that the national government was planning to invade their state was more than most could stand.
But they are still traitors who fought to defend slavery. Their statues should come down.

Not in the least. Both were great men. Flawed, like we all are, but great.

Actually H was not his middle initial either

for the added insight.

Let's go for three! lol

when he equates MLK being a philanderer as morally equivalent to Washington and Jefferson owning slaves. What a fucking brainless dolt.
I do agree with both of you that, at some point, you don't throw the baby out with the bathwater and trash the Founding Fathers because they weren't perfect. They were people of their times and were changing with them.  But we are still battling over the results of what they created. And don't get me wrong: I'm glad the US was born and maybe there was no other way to do it without the stain of slavery. But we are continuing to pay the price.

I agree with most everything you say, but I think that it is important to recognize that most of the Confederate soldiers who fought were young individuals who were not slave owners. Any memorials to this particular group should not be lumped together with those you mention. We have forgiven the “ordinary“ German and Japanese combatants of WWII. We need to do the same for the “ordinary “ Confederate soldier.

And I not so sure that this time around and most will be offended by this. Maybe back then some were offended...but I'm thinking not so much now.
This one feels different....stay tuned.
Check out that commercial they ran on ESPN, all very prominent black football player chiming in. Very moving,

the most notorious philander around.

But my opinion is they still fought to defend slavery for a treasonous country and there should be NO memorials honoring ANY Confederates on public property. Use your own example: are there any public memorials honoring "ordinary" German or Japanses soldier of WWII? I think the answer is no. At least, not outside of war cemeteries, which is where they belong. Same for Confederates.

those who have already made up their minds.  One way to attempt to get your arms around this would be to entertain potential varying degrees of supporting racial injustice.  Would never get acceptance from the truly racially biased (but would never get them to agree anyway).

That is just silly. I merely pointed out that he wasn't perfect, and that is the worst I could think of him.