How exactly did the Dems wind up with Biden? Why didn’t ANYONE else force their way in as the candidate Ala Hillary 2016?
Not asking for a Friend…that Biden narrowly beat Trump in 2020 has a lot to do with it, but conditions are not the same this time around. In 2020, Trump was being blamed for a poor response to Covid and the life-saving vaccines were too little to late to help him win. It would be eight months into Biden's term before he would surpass Trump on the number of deaths on his watch. Even with the vaccines, more people died under Biden in eight months than did in twelve months under Trump. Biden had the vaccine and was still incompetent in his management of it.
We also now have the hindsight of seeing what each of these men will do, and in that, the advantage goes to Trump. At the debates, he will trot out Ronald Reagan's words that resulted in the crushing defeat of incumbent Jimmy Carter, "If you're better off now than you were four years ago, you should vote for Joe, if you're not, you should vote for me." Now that we have a full-term record of accomplishments (or in the case of Biden, lack thereof) it's easy to compare their records and see who has the skills to get us back to a roaring economy and a good life for all Americans.
No one from the dem party had that "it" quality that was needed at that time. I didn't see anyone really polished who I felt we needed. Biden had the empathy to deal with what we were going through, the I can get us together to pull out of this attitude. Biden gave us that. That wise old man who can pull us out this wreck.
trump rolled the dice on covid, either tackle it head on or ignore it and make it political and blame the dems. Well he crap out. He showed he wasn't the man for the moment. He mismanaged and message in the worst way possible, America needed someone where the buck stops. trump wasn't the guy, he just couldn't or wouldn't take the responsibility for the moment, In that regard he showed his true weakness, not being a man, (And the Helsinki conference with Putin was the final nail,a weak moment for America) That was his biggest blunder, if he cared he wins in 2020.
Now he got the vaccine going, which was a good thing and he should have promoted it but he didn't. I've always asked, show me picture with trump getting vaccinated.....good luck.
And even after the election, he's base was still against the vaccine and they were falling like fly's, so trump was still killing them when he was gone. Can't change stupid.
if trump managed covid, then we're not talking about Biden now.
I had this conversation with Gag, told him that the 2020 election will be all about Covid....and it was.
My question is, why trump now and again....haven't you learned anything?? We've been there and done that shit show
I think if elected he'll have learned to surround himself with sycophants who won't do what Matis and others warned him not to do. There will be no gate-keepers at all. He'll also completely turn the arms of government into instruments of retribution. He will be reckless and dangerous and destructive of democracy.
I wouldn't even put it past him to somehow try to make himself President For Life.
Vote for Trump and you are voting for the end of the democratic experiment.
draining the Washington swamp and dismantling the deep state as he promised he would do in 2016. I think he will only be worse from the perspective of engrained bureaucratic elitists. He's coming for them and will clean up the corruption, especially in the Justice Department.
Trump was perhaps the most corrupt President in American history. He and his family violated the Emoluments Clause multiple times. He will wreck the government while you cheer him on. The last time he tried, in Jan. 2021, his own Justice Dept. employees told him they'd resign en masse. These were all people HE had appointed.
they resign. If they are corrupt, they're corrupt. If Trump had violated the emoluments clause, some Lib prosecutor would have been all over it by now. Talk to a lawyer about it and ignore the fake news. They are just trying to create a story out of a nothing-burger.
Passive income from the continued operation of a business that was started before he became president is not an emoluments violation as long as he is not using his office to REQUIRE government personal to stay at his hotels. If you have an example of that happening, then I'd sure like to hear about it. Meanwhile, Joe was taking payments from foreign governments while he was Vice President through the shell corps formed by Hunter. That's real corruption.
Those officials weren't corrupt. It was Trump asking them to do something corrupt and they refused. He was talking about appointing the demented and unqualified Clark as Acting AG so he could put his thumb on the scales of the election. And then Trump blinked. Or did you miss that?
You miss so much it's embarrassing. Assuming you're capable of embarrassment, all evidence being to the contrary.
You are just as lost as Loooooooser.
A nothing-burger is far better than those Trump Turdburgers you scarf down so hungrily.
Oh, and I said nothing about hotels. Are you on meth?
of the emoluments clause, and if you weren't talking about hotels, what were you referring to with that accusation?
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Trump never did what every President before him did: put his assets in a blind trust which sold and reinvested them in assets unknown to said President. Trump simply transferred ownership of his assets to a family member and NONE of them were sold. So he knew EXACTLY what they were and was in a position to have his decisions affected by the knowledge. Which is exactly what the Emoluments Cause was designed to prevent. The hotel issue was simply a small part of this.
You can take it as a compliment that I don't think you are ignorant of headline news yet you consistently LIE about matters of fact that have been in the news for YEARS.
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(Off the emoluments topic, you recently mind-boggingly posted "Trump is not personally charged with anything" in the NYS $250 M fraud lawsuit. Trump has been INDICTED several times. Here is page 1 of the 222 page $250 M charging document:
SUPREME COURT OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK, COUNTY OF NEW YORK, PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF NEW
YORK, by LETITIA JAMES, Attorney General of the State of New York, Plaintiff,
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-against *****DONALD J. TRUMP,***** DONALD TRUMP,
JR., ERIC TRUMP, IVANKA TRUMP, ALLEN WEISSELBERG, JEFFREY MCCONNEY, THE DONALD J. TRUMP REVOCABLE TRUST, THE TRUMP ORGANIZATION, INC., TRUMPORGANIZATION LLC, DJT HOLDINGS LLC, DJT HOLDINGS MANAGING MEMBER, TRUMP ENDEAVOR 12 LLC, 401 NORTH WABASH VENTURE LLC, TRUMP OLD POST OFFICE LLC, 40 WALL STREET LLC, and SEVEN SPRINGS LLC, Defendants )
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Emoluents:
1. In 2017, Trump received approval of at least 38 trademarks from China, at least 9 of which had been previously rejected:
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/03/08/519247480/china-okays-38-trump-trademarks-critics-say-it-violates-emoluments-clause
China OKs 38 Trump Trademarks; Critics Say It Violates Emoluments Clause.
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2. Ivanka had at least 41 trademarks fast-tracked for approval in China after Trump was elected
http://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/09/22/ivankas-trademark-requests-were-fast-tracked-in-china-after-trump-was-elected/?sh=3539f1ec1d60
Ivanka’s Trademark Requests Were Fast-Tracked In China After Trump Was Elected
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3. Trump received at least $5.4 M from China in a "mysterious" Trump Tower lease agreement.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2020/10/23/forbes-estimates-china-paid-trump-at-least-54-million-since-he-took-office-via-mysterious-trump-tower-lease/?sh=60263dfbed11
Forbes Estimates China Paid Trump At Least $5.4 Million Since He Took Office, Via Mysterious Trump Tower Lease.
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"President Donald Trump, who declared “I don’t make money from China” in Thursday night’s presidential debate, has in fact collected millions of dollars from government-owned entities in China since he took office. Forbes estimates that at least $5.4 million has flowed into the president’s business from a lease agreement involving a state-owned bank in Trump Tower. ... Suddenly, a routine real estate deal became a conduit for a foreign superpower to pay the president of the United States. ..."
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4. On several occasions, Kellyanne Conway BLATANTLY promoted Ivanka Trump's jewelry and fashion products during official press conferences. ".... and don't forget: Buy Ivanka's stuff!" or similar. She was called out for violating the emoluments clause and basically replied, "Fuck you. Go ahead and sue me."
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http://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/tasneemnashrulla/kellyanne-conway-just-told-everybody-to-go-buy-ivankas-stuff
Kellyanne Conway Just Told Everybody To "Go Buy Ivanka’s Stuff” — Potentially Violating Ethics Law
Conway said she was giving a "free commercial" for Ivanka Trump's products — a day after President Trump slammed Nordstrom for dropping his daughter's brand.
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"... Federal ethical regulations state that a government employee cannot use their public office “for the private gain of friends, relatives, or persons with whom the employee is affiliated in a nongovernmental capacity.” ..."
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5. On an official trip to China, Jared's sister pushed investments in Kushner properties as a way to get a "Golden Visa" under the EB-5 Visa program.
http://www.npr.org/2017/05/08/527451591/kushner-family-business-pitch-in-china-prompts-questions-about-investor-visas
Kushner Family Business Pitch In China Prompts Questions About Investor Visas.
"... But a connection pitched in China over the weekend — involving ties between President Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner and a real-estate project — has prompted ethics experts to raise objections, and some lawmakers to call for change. There are concerns about potential conflicts of interests, but also about a visa program for investors. ...
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"... But Larry Noble, general counsel for the Campaign Legal Center, says, "The strong feeling is that they — the Trump family, the Kushner family — see the White House and being in the government as a marketing opportunity."
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"The controversy began when reporters from The Washington Post and The New York Times sat in on a publicly advertised event at the Ritz-Carlton Hotel in Beijing on Saturday. Before being asked to leave, reporters heard Jared Kushner's sister Nicole Meyer tell Chinese investors that they could participate in a New Jersey real estate project that "means a lot to me and my entire family."
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"Meyer noted that if investors put at least $500,000 into the Kushner-family backed project, they could qualify for an EB-5 visa. Those are the visas, created in 1990, that provide eligible immigrant investors with a path that can lead to permanent residence. Their investments just have to create at least 10 full-time jobs for U.S. workers.
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"***** And the pitch came with a sweetener: Meyer talked about the Kushner family, including her brother who holds a powerful position in the White House as senior adviser to President Trump. ***** Noble said the type of pitch offered in China "is not unheard of in other countries where you get to the leader by ... financially supporting the family." ..."
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I can't find the articles, but I seem to recall a change in the EB-5 program promoted by Kushner under Trump. Originally, the program was meant to encourage investment in poor, neglected, inner city neighborhoods (renovate abandoned buildings and bring in business occupants). The original definition was a tight [inner city neighborhood]. That was loosened up to [300 yards + [inner city neighborhood]] + 300 yards]. Those extra 300 yards or additional 2-block perimeter areas were MUCH more attractive and profitable than the most run-down inner city areas ... and where the Kushner's already owned properties ripe for further investment and development. Think of it as a Kushner-mander financial variation of a Gerrymander.
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6. When the RNC took over running Trump's 2016 campaign, Trump raised the rent on Trump Tower office space by FIVE-FOLD.
http://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-campaign-rent_n_57bba424e4b03d51368a82b9
Donald Trump Jacked Up His Campaign’s Trump Tower Rent Once Somebody Else Was Paying It.
"... Trump nearly quintupled the monthly rent his presidential campaign pays for its headquarters at Trump Tower to $169,758 in July, when he was raising funds from donors, compared with March, when he was self-funding his campaign, according to a Huffington Post review of Federal Election Commission filings. The rent jumped even though he was paying fewer staff in July than he did in March. ..."
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End of Part 1; Part 2 in next post
take 2-4 years to be completed in the US, and China is no different. If the applications were all submitted BEFORE Trump was sworn in as President, but the approvals were not granted until years later at a time when he was President, no laws were violated because other people are running the businesses. If you research the applications, I think you will find that the applications were not submitted in Trump's name, but in the name of various business entities he owned. You still can't point to anything that shows there was a violation of teh emoluments clause, only allegations in the news. If there were real violations, some Dem prosecutor would have latched onto it by now. Even your quoted expert says it this way, "The strong feeling is that they . . ." This is always the way Dems smear people, but stop short of accusing them so that they cannot be sued for libel. You need to stop relying on these kinds of stories to support your speculations.
Well since there are now 91 VERY real indictments against Trump on other charges I assume based on the above statement you believe they are based in fact.
Nice box you put yourself in. As usual.
ALL of Ivanka's trademark applications were submitted AFTER Trump was sworn in as POTUS. Some of Trump's were previously rejected and REsubmitted along with NEW applications in 2016. Approvals came through in ~2 to 4 MONTHS, not 2-4 YEARS.
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There are SUSPICIONS of emolument violations but no PROOF because Trump is deliberately secretive and refuses to answer Qs about his deals with China. (E.g., where did the $17.5 million payment come from? "Fees." Fees for WHAT? "None of your fucking business." E.g., why did you pay $188,000 in Chinese income taxes but declare income of only a few thousand dollars to the IRS? "None of your fucking business.. You can ask China for my business and banking info they'll tell you to fuck off, too.")
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How did China benefit?
http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/5/15/17355202/trump-zte-indonesia-lido-city
Trump helps sanctioned Chinese phone maker after China delivers a big loan to a Trump project.
Trump stands to gain from an Indonesian project that got a $500 million loan right before he flip-flopped on ZTE.
"Is the president of the United States revising American trade policy — and possibly jeopardizing national security — because his family received a large cash bribe from the Chinese government? ..."
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CDL, willy, Lost, cks, follow, et al. deliberately ignore all of these stories and more. CDL posts "But you don't have any proof! Just suspicions."
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But CDL, willy, Lost, cks, follow, et al. do NOT say to Sydney Powell, Giuliani, PIllow Guy, Bannon, and TRUMP HIMSELF that THEY HAVE NO PROOF of a stolen election. They are still on that broken down bandwagon. Just the other day, willy posted "Trump did win."
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/politics-and-religion-39/trump-did-win-432435
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And CDL, after LYING about Kushner having interest in financial gain while serving in the WH, did not reply to the post about Kushner negotiating a $1 B Qatar bailout of his private real estate business while also negotiating the approval of the Saudi blockade of Qatar. After Qatar did the $1 B bailout, Kushner got SA to end the blockade. ... Ja-Vanka declared that their income during their time in the WH (~4 years) was around $600 M. Real estate deals? Chinese trademarks? ...?
take 2-4 years to be completed in the US, and China is no different. If the applications were all submitted BEFORE Trump was sworn in as President, but the approvals were not granted until years later at a time when he was President, no laws were violated because other people are running the businesses. If you research the applications, I think you will find that the applications were not submitted in Trump's name, but in the name of various business entities he owned. You still can't point to anything that shows there was a violation of teh emoluments clause, only allegations in the news. If there were real violations, some Dem prosecutor would have latched onto it by now. Even your quoted expert says it this way, "The strong feeling is that they . . ." This is always the way Dems smear people, but stop short of accusing them so that they cannot be sued for libel. You need to stop relying on these kinds of stories to support your speculations.
Part 2:
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7. As POTUS, Trump would "vacation" at his rental properties and charge the Government to house Secret Service and other staff, usually at higher cost that competitive hotels.
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8. Pence stayed at Trump's Doonbeg Golf Club during a state trip to Scotland.
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/pence-s-doonbeg-detour-cost-nearly-600k-ground-transportation-fees-n1052401
Pence's Doonbeg detour cost nearly $600K in ground transportation fees
Pence's stay at Trump's Irish golf resort has reinvigorated the debate about whether the president is using his position to enrich himself.
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"... The receipts totaled more than $599,000 in conjunction with the vice president's stay, which required him to travel back-and-forth between Doonbeg and Dublin, where his official meetings were set to take place. ... Pence spent hours in transit — both flying and driving — between Doonbeg and Dublin, more than 180 miles away on the opposite end of the country. ..." A 360 mile round trip commute for daily meetings????? Sure!, as long as the money flows to Trump.
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9. It also came out that active US Military personnel were being sent to stay at Trump's Turnberry Golf Club, 45 minutes away from nearby hotels, during layovers in Scotland ... It also ended up in paying higher rates for aircraft fuel than if they had landed at and used military bases.
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49633936
Trump Turnberry: US Air Force to review Scotland resort stays.
"It has emerged that some personnel have been staying at one of President Donald Trump's Scottish golf resorts. There has been an increase in the number of US military flights stopping at Prestwick Airport, Scotland, near the resort, since he took office. ...
Trump probed over military spending in Scotland.
The US Air Force said its crews had obeyed all the rules, but said "lodging at higher-end accommodations, even if within government rates, might be allowable but not advisable".
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10. The Trump Int'l Hotel in DC received almost $4 M in room reservations at extremely high (above standard DC hotel rates) after Trump was elected. Many of those reservations went unused. (Some of the luxury room reservations went for $12,000 per night. (I wonder if that included a DC Provider with excellent TER Reviews? Either way, the the hotel guest was getting fucked over.)
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http://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/02/trump-hotel-empty-rooms-016763
A Trump hotel mystery: Giant reservations followed by empty rooms.
The House is investigating whether groups tried to curry favor with Trump by booking rooms at his hotels but never using them.
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"... The investigation began after the committee received information that two entities — a trade association and a foreign government — booked a large quantity of rooms but used only a fraction of them, according to a person familiar with the allegation who isn’t authorized to speak for the committee.
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"The emoluments clause of the Constitution forbids a president from profiting from foreign governments or receiving any money from the U.S. government except his or her annual salary. ..."
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11. http://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/10/17/trump-secret-service-hotel-rates-records/
Trump charged Secret Service ‘exorbitant’ rates at his hotels, records show.
"Former president Donald Trump’s company charged the Secret Service as much as five times more than the government rate for agents to stay overnight at Trump hotels while protecting him and his family, according to expense records newly obtained by Congress.
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"The records show that in 40 cases the Trump Organization billed the Secret Service far higher amounts than the approved government rate — in one case charging agents $1,185 a night to stay at the Trump International Hotel in D.C. The new billing documents, according to a congressional committee’s review, show that U.S. taxpayers paid the president’s company at least $1.4 million for Secret Service agents’ stays at Trump properties for his and his family’s protection.
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" “The exorbitant rates charged to the Secret Service and agents’ frequent stays at Trump-owned properties raise significant concerns about the former President’s self-dealing and may have resulted in a taxpayer-funded windfall for former President Trump’s struggling businesses.” ..."
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http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-dc-hotel-10500-night-rooms-foreign-officials-rcna57027
Trump D.C. hotel receipts reveal $10,500-a-night rooms for foreign officials seeking to influence U.S. policy
Bills for the Malaysian, Saudi, UAE and Qatari governments show lavish spending at the hotel in 2017 and 2018 during sensitive times for those countries’ relations with the U.S.
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12. ... and many more.
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Several of the cited articles are from Forbes. CDL subscribes to Forbes. Too bad he doesn't read the articles and only uses it to swat flies or prop up the legs on his rickety table.
of the emoluments clause, and if you weren't talking about hotels, what were you referring to with that accusation?
I think if elected he'll have learned to surround himself with sycophants who won't do what Matis and others warned him not to do. There will be no gate-keepers at all. He'll also completely turn the arms of government into instruments of retribution. He will be reckless and dangerous and destructive of democracy.
I wouldn't even put it past him to somehow try to make himself President For Life.
Vote for Trump and you are voting for the end of the democratic experiment.
"even remotely what was asked?" You asked how the Dems wound up with Biden in 2020. CDL replied as to how the Dems wound up with Biden in 2024. Did CDL go "full retard from the get-go?"
"even remotely what was asked?" You asked how the Dems wound up with Biden in 2020. CDL replied as to how the Dems wound up with Biden in 2024. Did CDL go "full retard from the get-go?"
You're a worse white knight than cks175. LOL!
You asked how the Dems wound up with Biden. You used the PAST TENSE. That means you were asking about 2020. 2020 is the topic of your OP. 'hpygolky' was on topic; CDL is NOT "on topic."
You wanna know how the Dems "wound up" with Biden for 2024? Well, they haven't "wound up" with Biden yet, but if they do I'll hazard a guess why - it's because he's the fucking incumbent President!! Motherfucker please!!!!!
TER righties - where seldom is heard a discouraging word about fellow righties because they're too busy white knighting for each other.
You complain about righties white knighting for each other while in the same post you white knight for a leftie.
You are an embarrassment to the insurance salesman, and all your radical far left comrades.
Let’s Go Brandon
Hey maybe the insurance salesman can help you pull the post.
No one from the dem party had that "it" quality that was needed at that time. I didn't see anyone really polished who I felt we needed.
Now he got the vaccine going, which was a good thing and he should have promoted it but he didn't. I've always asked, show me picture with trump getting vaccinated.....good luck.
And even after the election, he's base was still against the vaccine and they were falling like fly's, so trump was still killing them when he was gone. Can't change stupid.
I had this conversation with Gag, told him that the 2020 election will be all about Covid....and it was.
My question is, why trump now and again....haven't you learned anything?? We've been there and done that shit show
1. Biden has fucked the economy with the Massive spending bills and the printing of money which has badly devalued the dollar and created the worst inflation that I can remember.
2. Biden FUCKED up the withdrawal from Afghanistan. No two ways about it, the whole, we have to be out by 9/11 was wrong in so many ways. And before one of you says one word about Trump set the stage in Afghanistan! Biden sought the nomination and won the nomination and actively sought the office as President. That means on day 1 he could have changed ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING to have facilitated the withdrawal in a safe manner that wasn't tied to an arbitrary Bullshit date. Fuck he could have stopped the withdrawal all together and destroyed the Taliban en mass. Their takeover has led to the death of our allies who we said we would give visas to, people who risked everything for us and we FUCKED THEM on so many levels. After we left the country suffered the worst starvation in history. Dont even get me started on the equipment and weapons we left behind.
3. The Border is an even Bigger disaster of Human suffering brought on by throwing the doors open to anyone and everyone. The number of people trying to get to this country that are murdered, raped, robbed, by the cartels is just beyond imagining.
4. The diversity hires Biden picked and not just the VP or the Press secretary who BOTH suck at their jobs and it isn't because of their skin color they are just both incompetent.
5. The corruption of the DOJ and the manner in which it has been weaponized is something right out of the rise of Nazi Germany yet the Dems love to call Trump the Nazi.
I could go on and on but the long and the short of it is people are MUCH worse off since Biden's rise to power. wanna know when the last time people remembered things being good? Yeah, you guessed it the first three years of Trump's Presidency...
...with the Massive spending bills and the printing of money which has badly devalued the dollar..."
Where is your link proving that Biden has "badly devalued the dollar?" Did you pull that "fact" out of your ass as righties usually do?
Wednesday 20 January 2021 $1 USD = €0.8254
Friday 8 September 2023 $1 USD = €0.934
http://www.exchangerates.org.uk/USD-EUR-spot-exchange-rates-history-2021.html
http://www.exchangerates.org.uk/USD-EUR-spot-exchange-rates-history-2023.html
Wednesday 20 January 2021 $1 USD = ₪3.2651
Friday 8 September 2023 $1 USD = ₪3.8433
http://www.exchangerates.org.uk/USD-ILS-spot-exchange-rates-history-2021.html
http://www.exchangerates.org.uk/USD-ILS-spot-exchange-rates-history-2023.html
I know you were "Lost" during math class so I'll tell you that the Dollar is worth 13% more against the Euro and 18% more vs. the Israeli Shekel since the day Real Economic Leader Joe was inaugurated.
And great news for K-girls!!!! The Dollar has gone up over 20% vs. the South Korean Won since Biden was inaugurated! That means K-girls have, in effect, been getting 20% tips from cheap ass K-mongers thanks to Real Economic Leader Joe.
Currency comparison does not give you a correct picture of devaluation. Unless every American hedges international currencies, your analysis means nothing to them. Each national economy is unique and is not judged by other economies. All the Americans see is that gas is higher, groceries are higher, rent is higher and mortgage rates are higher average consumer debt is higher, and you know what is down? Personal savings and net asset value, so yeah, Biden has fucked them over because they are only invested in dollars, not other currencies.
So while the dollar has not been devalued against every world currency, dollars will only buy a fraction of what they would buy two years ago, and that is how our currency has been devalued through inflation. Gas prices in California are nearing double what they were when Biden took office (and only 25 cents lower than their peak in 2022), and that is the most destructive type of devaluation for the average consumer.
Actually, there's no need to issue an alert. The post is by CDL so of course it's false.
CDL: "Gas prices in California are nearing double what they were when Biden took office..."
Poetic license at its finest. Not even close to the truth. That's why here's no link.
Actually, there's no need to issue an alert. The post is by CDL so of course it's false.
CDL: "Gas prices in California are nearing double what they were when Biden took office..."
Poetic license at its finest. Not even close to the truth. That's why here's no link.
From the CNN article and this was back in 2022 😲🙄
“Facts First: Biden's claim that the most common gas price when he took office was more than $5 isn't even close to true. The most common price for a gallon of regular gas on the day he was inaugurated, January 20, 2021, was $2.39, according to data provided to CNN by Patrick De Haan, head of petroleum analysis at GasBuddy -- much lower than the most common price today, not much higher than the most common price today as Biden said. In other words, Biden made it sound like gas prices have fallen significantly during his presidency when they have actually increased significantly.”
What is gas in Cali these days $4.50 at the cheapest? Fuck it was $7.80 a gallon the last time I looked.
Btw FatP your hatred of CDL is eating you alive. Go get some ozimpic, a big bag of salad and a planet fitness membership. It will do ya good! Seriously it will.
The best you can do is Gas Buddy? And it's hearsay at that, from "lamestream" media CNN. Well lucky for you, even a blind squirrel can find a nut once in a while. The national average price for gas on January 20, 2021 was $2.38. On September 7, 2023 the average price was $3.82. That's an increase of 60%.
In California, the average price of gas in January, 2021 was $3.262. In August, 2023 it was $5.13. That's an increase of 56%, not "double" as CDL claimed.
http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=EMM_EPM0_PTE_SCA_DPG&f=M
I can admit Joe Biden lied about the price of gas when he took office. Can you take your tongue out of CDL's ass long enough to admit he lied as well?
BTW, do you have a link to prove that the average price of gas in California was ever $7.80 a gallon. The last time you looked? Where were you looking when you found that "fact?" Up our own ass? Another righty liar.
Motherfucker please!
Up our own ass?
Motherfucker please!
Also “motherfucker please”? Stealing my lines?
As for a link to expensive gas in Cali? Go read about it below but only if your on an exercise bike eating a salad with low calorie dressing and a Diet Coke. Remember the first 20 minutes don’t count so ya gotta do at least 40 minutes ok?
Chop chop fat boy
That is a story about a single location, selected specifically because it is charging THE highest price in CA. The location is Schlafer's Auto REPAIR.
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I emphasize REPAIR because I worked in a gas station - repair station when I was in HS. The main biz was Auto REPAIR. Gas was a distraction and a side biz (except that there were benefits to having the giant "Big Name Gas Company" lighted signs and other benefits). At least where I was, the REPAIR stations always charged more for gas than the GAS ONLY (maybe a mini-mart) stations. On a stretch of road with 5 - 10 stations, the prices could differ by quite a bit.
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Just a little math reminder about AVERAGES. You add up N values and then divide by N. When there is only one value, N = 1. ($9.61 / 1) = $9.61. NOT a very representative average.
Up our own ass?
Motherfucker please!
Also “motherfucker please”? Stealing my lines?
As for a link to expensive gas in Cali? Go read about it below but only if your on an exercise bike eating a salad with low calorie dressing and a Diet Coke. Remember the first 20 minutes don’t count so ya gotta do at least 40 minutes ok?
Chop chop fat boy
Here’s a link, go to the nearest grocery store and go shopping. Hell for you the grocery bill must be fucking astronomical!!!
Seriously calling Joe real economic leader 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 That was a good one!