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Klobuchar says she told Biden she's withdrawing from consideration at his VP.
inicky46 61 Reviews 467 reads
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You can say she had no chance anyway, and you might be right. But she also said she'd told Biden she thought he should appoint a woman of color. I just hope to hell he picks Harris and not Abrams.

Hpygolky42 reads

And I'm with you, I'd like to see Harris and not Abrams.

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GaGambler37 reads

She could most definitely bring out the base, the base for Trump that is. lol

 
As for Harris, she has the same problem as the other current front runner Demings, they both have a Law Enforcement backround, not exactly endearing to the BLM and ANTIFA crowds.  

 
Unless Harris has some skeletons we don't know about yet, always a possibility, things come out at the eleventh hour all the time in politics at this level, I think she is the safer choice. Dementia Joe has more health concerns than any nominee since McCain, and Harris as a current Senator and previous Presidential candidate in her own right is easier to portray as ready to step into the job if Joe Biden were to forget his own name someday.

 
Back to Abrams, can ANYONE imagine her as POTUS? I don't like Harris, but she has better qualifications than Abrams only claim to fame which was LOSING in her run for Governor. She is like a fatter, darker, female version of Beto.

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Jinx_The_Cat39 reads

Biden has health issues?  Name one.  You are confusing him with “Im having trouble walking and using simple objects like a drinking cup” Trump.  

Harris has a law enforcement background sure.  But she has really been a very centrist prosecutor and was slightly less tough than most.  I think that probably works in her favor.  

The one skeleton in her closet is that she was fucking her mentor Willie Brown and then prosecuted him for his well known questionable  political practices as a king maker in San Francisco and California politics after he got her elected SFDA.  So she fucked him again after they broke up.  

I lost a lot of respect for her because of that.  She is an opportunistic bitch, but I think she may be a strong choice.

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JackDunphy35 reads

Harris is really the only one that fits that bill and she has massive name recognition. Her tone is moderate, as is her background, so of all the Dems, she strikes me as most presidential. First rule of VP choice is "do no harm."

 
Pocahontas would instantly do harm as she would fracture the Left and bring a ton of racial angst to a party that is race  obsessed right now. Her being old doesn't help. Dems really going to go with "two, old, white people" with one of them busted for race/culture appropriation? Ummmm....no. Not this year.

 
Abrams not only doesn't look the part, but she is a loser, politically speaking, and won't bring the Dems GA anyway.

 
I have said it from day one. It's Harris and obviously so. When you are leading like Biden is now, you go chalk.

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GaGambler47 reads

Presidential candidates rarely want their running mate to upstage them. Remember Kamala Harris kicked Joe's ass pretty easily in one of the debates and she could easily make poor old Dementia Joe look weak compared to her.

 
I don't think anyone believes Obama picked Biden for his strengths, It was obvious Obama was Batman and Biden was Robin. The dynamic would be completely different if Harris becomes Bidens running mate.

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Once-Is-Not-Enough30 reads

joking.  Once the candidate wins the party's nomination, the entire field gets amnesia.  You're from Texas and without pausing, even a nanosecond, you can recall the most obvious example of this principle, from the previous presidential election.

 
AND, Joe Biden never accused any of KH's relatives of consorting with Lee Harvey Oswald.   You can be sure, they have already kissed and made up.

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GaGambler44 reads

So actually you make my point instead of refuting it. Look at who Trump did pick, Mike Pence a guy who was not in the very contentious race for the nomination, and a pick that helped heal the wounds between Trump and the establishment until Trump could make the GOP his own party.

 
Yes, they kissed and made up, but that's a long way from picking him as a running mate. Please help me out here, when was the last time a Presidential candidate named a former front runner for the job him/herself as his running mate. Hillary didn't pick Bernie, Obama didn't pick Hillary, Romney, McCain, the list goes on and on, the closest I can think in my lifetime was when Reagan picked Bush, and just like with Obama picking Biden there was ZERO risk of Bush upstaging the much more charismatic Reagan. Of course Harris and Biden have kissed and made up, but that doesn't mean he wants her upstaging him on the campaign trail.

 
If Biden picks Harris he runs the very real risk that she her personality would be stronger than him, making him look even less Presidential in the process. I don't like her politics but there is no doubt she is a strong personality, and a lot sharper than Dementia Joe.

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Once-Is-Not-Enough57 reads

I have complete confidence in KH.  She will not only make an excellent vice president, but will figure out how best she can serve the administration that chose her, while faithfully executing those duties in the most professional way.

 
Then, when it is HER time, she will expect the same from those she puts in key roles.  It's called good leadership.  One of the most important traits of a good leader, is being a good follower, when the situation warrants, and being able to seize those situations, enthusiastically, when they arise.

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coeur-de-lion36 reads

I always find it amusing when someone who is NOT likely to get picked turns something down.  

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Once-Is-Not-Enough39 reads

a topic you seem all too familiar with.  Bet you have had more than ample non-opportunities, YOU turned down, so your fragile ego would not get completely shattered, again.

 
Pretty sad, when even those "nonagenarians" (look it up) at your long term care facility, refuse to give you the time of day.  Fortunately for you, you can simply log on to TER and be whatever your imagination allows you to be.

 
Lucky you!

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macdaddy194429 reads

Abrams has her eye on being Georgia's Governor..She will clean Kemp's clock next time around..I still think Warren will get the nod for VP..she takes no one's shit and will destroy Pence in a debate if he still wants to stick with the fucking loser in there now..

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impposter60 reads

I predict that neither Biden nor Trump will make it through the next 4 years. They will either stroke out or be 25th Amendmented out or otherwise be removed from office. The serving VP, whoever it is, will take over as POTUS.  
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Will Trump keep Pence on the ticket or throw him under the bus for Nikki Haley (or maybe Ivanka :-)  ;)?  
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I don't know much about Abrams other than from coverage of her run for GaGovernor. Harris is "senatorial" and can handle the pressure of DC and I have seen her a lot more in the news, etc.. As a New Yorker, I KNEW from years and years of news coverage that Trump was a pathological liar, an incompetent, a narcissist, and a fraud. I don't know so much about Abrams and Harris.  
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The next 4-12 years will be about recovery from the huge hit COVID-19 inflicted on the US and the rest of the world. Who has the best ideas and the ability to craft policy and deliver results? We will need BIG programs. E.g., maybe something like the New Deal WPA for repair (REPAIR and RESTORE FIRST, not "NEW" bridges and tunnels to nowhere) of infrastructure. Reps can call it their "Drain the Swamp Program" for improving water treatment and delivery; Dems can call it "Green New Deal" for improving water treatment and delivery: SAME GOAL, DIFFERENT NAME. And so on, down the list of major initiatives.
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Is health care on the "urgent" list or something to be sidetracked until the other problems are well on the way to recovery? In my opinion, Universal Health Care is DEFINITELY a part of any recovery plan. It removes the burden of health insurance from business, other than as something that their taxes will partially pay for.  It takes "health benefits" out of the equation of hiring and expanding (unless a business wants to offer supplemental insurance options as a benefit).  
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Do we need a bullet train from San Fran to San Diego and from Boston to DC at a cost of $1B per mile? In the long run, it would be great to have such a public transit option but that would not be a high priority to me, not until other more urgent problems were FIXED. ... unless as a part of planning and implementation of a higher priority project. E.g., if building a huge 80 mile aqueduct, be sure to acquire additional rights of way for future high speed RR tracks. (New York did NOT do that when designing and building the LIE and other roadways in the 1940s. It was a deliberate decision to block the construction of public transit that would give the riff raff access to Long Island.)  
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Another side rant: In the history of gov funding, NEW projects are much easier to get approved than maintenance and repair projects. Politicians want their names and photos on NEW bridges and tunnels even while the local (city, county) governments can't afford to maintain the ones built 20 years ago by a different politician.  
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In summary, next VP = future POTUS.

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coeur-de-lion27 reads

to take over, but he's just not a very colorful and inspiring figure, so even it he got in, I doubt he could get elected in 2024.  It will interesting to see who the Dem counterpart to Pence will be.  Then whichever one wins (Trump or Biden), we should start a ghoul pool to pick the date he croaks.  Maybe TER would sweeten the pot with a few VIP days for the winner?

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GaGambler38 reads

Pence is the "Real Thing" and I don't mean that as a compliment.  

 
The ONLY thing Pence has going for him if he were to run for POTUS is the fact that he is not a socialist, so if he were to somehow end up as the nominee against the likes of one of the nuttier libs, (which is almost all of them today) I would probably hold my nose and vote for him anyhow, but I would vote for almost any other Republican running against him in the primary.

 
Personally I think that even if Trump wins, dies in office, and Pence gets to run in 2024 as the incumbent I think he would be successfully "primaried" He is about as dull as Biden, maybe even more so since he rarely forgets his name, what state he is in, or what office he is running for, which gives us a laugh if nothing else. lol

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inicky4630 reads

Just like when Trump says, "Believe me." That's how you know he's lying.

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