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Posted By: anonymousfun
Aren't the Brits who created all the problems the world faces today? This is all the aftermath of British Empire and Colonialism the Brits perpetuated for centuries. North Africa, Libya, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and the Middle East is all British creations. During the British empire, you had bad habit of drawing boundaries wherever you damn well felt like drawing one.

Since, the Brits created the entire problem the world with your arbitrary boundaries, you should be the one's solving them instead looking at US to solve them for you. Isn't the your Prime Minister Tony Blair, and BP, the ones made Gadaffi legitimate so, BP can get their filthy hands on Libyan oil?

So stop thumping your chest and being proud. Some of does know history and part British played in it for few hundred years.



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Obama gets Carter's Disease in Libya
By James Lewis
"Some great powers talk big and act big. Some do big things quietly. But you can't talk big and do nothing and still expect to be taken seriously in a world of ruthless power players.


That's what Obama is doing in Libya today, following in the pathetic footsteps of Jimmy Carter and Lyndon B. Johnson.


Obama is a grandstanding blow-hard, and the world understands that by now. Telling Hosni Mubarak to leave the presidency of Egypt after 30 years of a very successful alliance that stabilized the Middle East was unnecessary, dangerous, and humiliating to a man who deserved better from the United States. But Obama did more. He has just rationalized and excused the very likely event of a radical Islamist takeover of Egypt. He thereby added foolhardiness to his usual empty boasting. That makes his ego tripping dangerous.


This is the same Obama who accepted Mubarak's invitation two years ago to deliver his we-love-Muslims speech from Cairo's Al Azhar University. He first made nice with Mubarak, and then stabbed him in the back, while puffing up his Zeppelin-size ego.


How long does it take for the Ahmadinejads of this world to take the measure of this man? About 15 seconds. All the power mongers now understand that America under Obama is a paper tiger. Under Bush we were feared, while European socialists loathed the United States. But Khadafi gave up his nuclear weapons program right after Bush invaded Iraq. That was not happenstance. Khadafi feared Bush, just as he feared Ronald Reagan. Today, no enemy has given up anything since Obama took his Nobel Prize for Hollow Rhetoric.


Today Obama is dithering about a possible no-fly zone over Libya, and Bill Daley, his chief of staff, is telling military experts outside the administration that they don't know what they are talking about. A no-fly zone is an aerial blockade, one that would make it hard or impossible for Khadafi to use his planes and helicopters to bomb and strafe Libyan rebels. If it is effective it could knock Khadafi out of power, which is what Obama is demanding. (Whether he should be demanding it is another thing entirely, of course.) But once the President of the United States stakes his credibility on a imperialistic demand for some crummy Generalissimo to resign, he has to put up or shut up. Obama is doing neither.


Now Obama's chief of staff is telling the world that a no-fly zone can't be done. It's too hard or dangerous for the United States military to do. It's too provocative. It could go wrong.


Well, yes. That's why the voters usual elect adults to the presidency. This is the point where the kids are told to leave the room.  LBJ would never let the military do their jobs in Vietnam, and as a result Ho Chi Minh killed hundreds of thousands of South Vietnamese who staked their lives on American promises. Jimmy Carter couldn't stop micromanaging the rescue effort for American diplomats in Tehran. Carter was defeated by the voters after a year of dithering.


But Obama is the ditheriest of them all. He has absolutely no experience making difficult decisions. He is the "vote present" guy who talks big and does nothing. The media elected him, as Joe Biden put it, because he was a "clean, articulate black guy." Now Uncle Sam is wearing the diapers.


When Khomeini killed his opposition in Tehran with Carter's tacit consent, Jimmy did nothing. Khomeini was a murderous power player. Like his disciple Ahmadinejad, the first thing he did was to test Carter's will. Finding no resistance, Khomeini pushed America and the West to the max, until Ronald Reagan got elected, when Khomeini instant released the American hostages. The Left has been evading that plain and obvious lesson now for thirty years.


When Mike Wallace interviewed Ahmadinejad for CBS two years ago, and began to raise just one tough question, A'jad immediately challenged him: Do you want this interview or not? Wallace instantly bowed down to the dictator and switched to softballs.  


That's how thugs operate, and Obama does the same thing when he feels confident. That's how he dealt with Congressional Republicans when he had a majority in both Houses. Obama never argued on the merits. His answer to Republican proposals was just: "I won."  It is an Ahmadinejad answer.


In foreign policy Obama has no confidence because he has no competence. He also doesn't let the adults in the military do the job that he cannot do. So he is instantly and correctly seen as helpless. A'jad has had Obama's number for the last few years. That number is zero.


Welcome to America as paper tiger. We produce no oil, but we make really slick excuses.


After Gulf War I the United States imposed a no-fly zone over Saddam's Iraq. Today we have two decades of more advanced aerospace technology, including anti-missile defenses to extend over Khadafi's capital of Tripoli. Aegis cruisers can be sent to any ocean in the world to knock down enemy planes and missiles within hundreds of miles.  Military planning is immensely complex, of course, and outsiders should not guess about the specifics. The Pentagon runs vast computer models and real-life exercises for that. But the idea that the US cannot stop the pathetic Libyan air force is beneath contempt. We can do it. Even Europe can do it, using our anti-missile technology. If necessary we could pay the Russians to do it for us (sine they now have a naval base in Syria).


Mubarak must be wondering today why he just didn't give Obama the fickle finger of fate six weeks ago when O ordered him to leave. All the Muslim regimes that were running scared a week ago are now realizing that Obama will do exactly nothing if they kill a lot of rebels. Most important of all, the madcap regime of Tehran, the biggest threat in the Middle East, has nothing but justified contempt for this president. A'jad sends his Basiji thugs to drive SUV's into civilian demonstrations in the streets of Tehran, and Obama never told him to resign. If you and I can see that, so can Putin and Hu, the newest Kim and every other dictator in the world.


Today it's lethal to be an American ally in a dangerous neighborhood. We've even outsourced the Pirates of Penzance in their little boats off Somalia.  We don't even defend freedom of navigation any more. But being our deadly enemy is easy and rewarding. The Iranians are spreading an empire for the first time in a thousand years.


Somebody bring back the adults, quick.


Is Rummy doing anything important right now?

Aren't the Brits who created all the problems the world faces today? This is all the aftermath of British Empire and Colonialism the Brits perpetuated for centuries. North Africa, Libya, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and the Middle East is all British creations. During the British empire, you had bad habit of drawing boundaries wherever you damn well felt like drawing one.

Since, the Brits created the entire problem the world with your arbitrary boundaries, you should be the one's solving them instead looking at US to solve them for you. Isn't the your Prime Minister Tony Blair, and BP, the ones made Gadaffi legitimate so, BP can get their filthy hands on Libyan oil?

So stop thumping your chest and being proud. Some of does know history and part British played in it for few hundred years.



Modren Iraq, Jordan, Syria and Palestine are all British creations.  Last year it was Blair who sprung the Pan Am 103 bomber to help with an oil deal!  So no one who calls himself a Brit should open his yap.  Not to mention that the rest of the post is bullcrap.  Yes, LBJ and Carter were pathetic, but it was Ronnie Reagan who turned tail and ran when 250 Marines were blown up in Beirut on his watch.  And we have a long history of propping up dictators like Mubarak -- in Chile, Greece,  Iran (ever heard of the Shah, a CIA creation).  That worked out really well for us, didn't it?
  Plus, Obama's doing fine in Afghanistan, having killed dozens of top Taliban and Al Queda types with increased drone stikes and putting them on the  run in Afghanistan by putting in more troops.  In Libya I'll bet we're doing clandestine ops to help the rebels but can't talk about it.  In any case, it's time we stopped being the Lone Ranger and stretching our over-stressed military by jumping alone into what's really a small conflict
  As for Iran, what the fuck did Bush do to contain Ahmedinejad's nuclear program?  Zip!  And it was on his watch the North  Korea tested an A-bomb.  I could go on, but you get the picture.  The OP's entire rant is bullshit.

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Posted By: anonymousfun
Aren't the Brits who created all the problems the world faces today? This is all the aftermath of British Empire and Colonialism the Brits perpetuated for centuries. North Africa, Libya, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and the Middle East is all British creations. During the British empire, you had bad habit of drawing boundaries wherever you damn well felt like drawing one.

Since, the Brits created the entire problem the world with your arbitrary boundaries, you should be the one's solving them instead looking at US to solve them for you. Isn't the your Prime Minister Tony Blair, and BP, the ones made Gadaffi legitimate so, BP can get their filthy hands on Libyan oil?

So stop thumping your chest and being proud. Some of does know history and part British played in it for few hundred years.



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Posted By: ProudBrit
Obama gets Carter's Disease in Libya
By James Lewis
"Some great powers talk big and act big. Some do big things quietly. But you can't talk big and do nothing and still expect to be taken seriously in a world of ruthless power players.


That's what Obama is doing in Libya today, following in the pathetic footsteps of Jimmy Carter and Lyndon B. Johnson.


Obama is a grandstanding blow-hard, and the world understands that by now. Telling Hosni Mubarak to leave the presidency of Egypt after 30 years of a very successful alliance that stabilized the Middle East was unnecessary, dangerous, and humiliating to a man who deserved better from the United States. But Obama did more. He has just rationalized and excused the very likely event of a radical Islamist takeover of Egypt. He thereby added foolhardiness to his usual empty boasting. That makes his ego tripping dangerous.


This is the same Obama who accepted Mubarak's invitation two years ago to deliver his we-love-Muslims speech from Cairo's Al Azhar University. He first made nice with Mubarak, and then stabbed him in the back, while puffing up his Zeppelin-size ego.


How long does it take for the Ahmadinejads of this world to take the measure of this man? About 15 seconds. All the power mongers now understand that America under Obama is a paper tiger. Under Bush we were feared, while European socialists loathed the United States. But Khadafi gave up his nuclear weapons program right after Bush invaded Iraq. That was not happenstance. Khadafi feared Bush, just as he feared Ronald Reagan. Today, no enemy has given up anything since Obama took his Nobel Prize for Hollow Rhetoric.


Today Obama is dithering about a possible no-fly zone over Libya, and Bill Daley, his chief of staff, is telling military experts outside the administration that they don't know what they are talking about. A no-fly zone is an aerial blockade, one that would make it hard or impossible for Khadafi to use his planes and helicopters to bomb and strafe Libyan rebels. If it is effective it could knock Khadafi out of power, which is what Obama is demanding. (Whether he should be demanding it is another thing entirely, of course.) But once the President of the United States stakes his credibility on a imperialistic demand for some crummy Generalissimo to resign, he has to put up or shut up. Obama is doing neither.


Now Obama's chief of staff is telling the world that a no-fly zone can't be done. It's too hard or dangerous for the United States military to do. It's too provocative. It could go wrong.


Well, yes. That's why the voters usual elect adults to the presidency. This is the point where the kids are told to leave the room.  LBJ would never let the military do their jobs in Vietnam, and as a result Ho Chi Minh killed hundreds of thousands of South Vietnamese who staked their lives on American promises. Jimmy Carter couldn't stop micromanaging the rescue effort for American diplomats in Tehran. Carter was defeated by the voters after a year of dithering.


But Obama is the ditheriest of them all. He has absolutely no experience making difficult decisions. He is the "vote present" guy who talks big and does nothing. The media elected him, as Joe Biden put it, because he was a "clean, articulate black guy." Now Uncle Sam is wearing the diapers.


When Khomeini killed his opposition in Tehran with Carter's tacit consent, Jimmy did nothing. Khomeini was a murderous power player. Like his disciple Ahmadinejad, the first thing he did was to test Carter's will. Finding no resistance, Khomeini pushed America and the West to the max, until Ronald Reagan got elected, when Khomeini instant released the American hostages. The Left has been evading that plain and obvious lesson now for thirty years.


When Mike Wallace interviewed Ahmadinejad for CBS two years ago, and began to raise just one tough question, A'jad immediately challenged him: Do you want this interview or not? Wallace instantly bowed down to the dictator and switched to softballs.  


That's how thugs operate, and Obama does the same thing when he feels confident. That's how he dealt with Congressional Republicans when he had a majority in both Houses. Obama never argued on the merits. His answer to Republican proposals was just: "I won."  It is an Ahmadinejad answer.


In foreign policy Obama has no confidence because he has no competence. He also doesn't let the adults in the military do the job that he cannot do. So he is instantly and correctly seen as helpless. A'jad has had Obama's number for the last few years. That number is zero.


Welcome to America as paper tiger. We produce no oil, but we make really slick excuses.


After Gulf War I the United States imposed a no-fly zone over Saddam's Iraq. Today we have two decades of more advanced aerospace technology, including anti-missile defenses to extend over Khadafi's capital of Tripoli. Aegis cruisers can be sent to any ocean in the world to knock down enemy planes and missiles within hundreds of miles.  Military planning is immensely complex, of course, and outsiders should not guess about the specifics. The Pentagon runs vast computer models and real-life exercises for that. But the idea that the US cannot stop the pathetic Libyan air force is beneath contempt. We can do it. Even Europe can do it, using our anti-missile technology. If necessary we could pay the Russians to do it for us (sine they now have a naval base in Syria).


Mubarak must be wondering today why he just didn't give Obama the fickle finger of fate six weeks ago when O ordered him to leave. All the Muslim regimes that were running scared a week ago are now realizing that Obama will do exactly nothing if they kill a lot of rebels. Most important of all, the madcap regime of Tehran, the biggest threat in the Middle East, has nothing but justified contempt for this president. A'jad sends his Basiji thugs to drive SUV's into civilian demonstrations in the streets of Tehran, and Obama never told him to resign. If you and I can see that, so can Putin and Hu, the newest Kim and every other dictator in the world.


Today it's lethal to be an American ally in a dangerous neighborhood. We've even outsourced the Pirates of Penzance in their little boats off Somalia.  We don't even defend freedom of navigation any more. But being our deadly enemy is easy and rewarding. The Iranians are spreading an empire for the first time in a thousand years.


Somebody bring back the adults, quick.


Is Rummy doing anything important right now?

-- Modified on 3/14/2011 3:58:38 PM

OP is pining for the days of Bush/Rummey!

He's on the talk show circuit flogging his self-serving book.  What an incompetant.  He and  Bush decided after our superb military knocked Hussein over that we didn't need a large force to oversee the transition -- and that we should disband the Iraqi army.  Result, years of terrorism, virtual anarchy, thousands of dead Americans and tens of thousands of dead Iraqis.  Yeah, we need that Bozo back!

-- Modified on 3/14/2011 8:34:26 PM

Don't forget about WWI !  Those people are soooo 19th century.  And they still need to learn to speak English properly.

Duke of Argyll: So, Mr. Cunningham, what are these principle sins that distress your mother? Dice? Drink? Or are you a buggerer of boys?

Archibald Cunningham: It is years, Your Grace, since I buggered a boy... And in my own defense, I must add, I thought him a girl at the moment of entry.

Duke of Argyll: [laughs] Do you hear that, Will? Young Cunningham here was unable to tell arse from quim. What say you to that?

Will Guthrie: I've heard that many Englishmen have that same difficulty.

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