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...and walking away from the animals who do nothing but bitch and demand the perpetual bent knee to marxism.  I'd love to see them pull out of the urban sectors all together and just stick to the 'burbs and out state locations where the customers know how to behave and enjoy shopping there.

 
Probably quite happy to drop $110 MILLION to do it!

Target made one mistake, they tried to recruit the MAGat/Walmart crowd and aliening their mainstream consumer. They boasted that they took out DEI hiring practices not really knowing their customer. They thought they'd draw in the MAGats with that...well guess what? They didn't.
Now sales have been sinking, the CEO resigned..they've embrace ICE now...So, really what did they think was going to happen, especially in Minn.
Target has a image problem....they're hitting bottom

So they are getting cancelled by the same crowd that flocks to their stores and preach TOLLERANCE.     Let that sink in.

Kinda like when that restaurant chain Create Barrel or whatever it is change some emblem. And the righties lost their shit…. Over waffles🤣
So spare us the 96 tears

I have always hated cancel culture.       So there is that.     But yeah... your ignorance is bliss.

 
I kept drinking Bud Light, I kept shopping at target, and so on.     But yeah.... keep trying to think you are "superior"  with out know shit.

 
Like I said.... same people screaming TOLERANCE when Target went way too far in one direction.... are now cancelling them.     Tolerant left is just a LIE.    

 
Sad part is they are "celebrating" this about Target and it will cause jobs to leave, people to leave, schools lose money on taxes, donations leaving the state, tax base getting smaller, etc.    But yeah.... "way to go".....(eyeroll),    The same people will now be bitching about all the stuff I just posted above and say "why can't more Businesses come to downtown".  

But let’s get down to the nitty gritty… the right boycotts every little thing that freaks them out. Recently it was the Super Bowl over a 15 minute haft time show…my gawd. Then it was Bud lite, John Deere, Harley Davidson… and Lowe’s , they even boycotted Target at one time
So spare us in this fake outrage  
MAGats have got to have the thinnest skin.

and hit something inadvertently.  Seems to affect your day much more than mine though, lol!  

....started crying that they "lost" their shopping when goerge floyd died and the mostly peaceful protests burned down several blocks of Lake Street.  This also included dozens of small neighborhood business that had turned an urban shithole into a vibrant economic corridor over the last 20 years.  Scores of shitshops, massage parlors and boarded up buildings were converted to services, restaurants and retail stores.  
   

The Hmong and Latinos had opened most of them.  I believe there was some territorial retribution involved as well from some of the folks that still had the majority of the houses in that area.  How dare those immigrants that came here legally, assimilated and accomplished something good when they put their whole lives into these businesses just to try and get some of that American Dream.

Prob not a bad time to pick up Target stock, if we are being completely reasonable. Their bottom line isnt that bad when you really look at it. Recent earningd report didnt meet quota but doesnt mean next q wont.

OP posted: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/target-pays-110-m-to-break-lease-on-downtown-minneapolis-tower/ar-AA1X9IUu
Target pays $110 M to break lease on downtown Minneapolis tower.
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"Target is reportedly paying nearly $110 million to end a lease on its downtown Minneapolis office space, having previously agreed to rent the space until 2031. The mega-retailer made the decision to end the lease at the City Center building last month ...  *****Target moved its operations out of the building five years ago during the coronavirus pandemic, but never returned.***** ...
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"A spokesperson for Target told the paper that *****the company is still committed to downtown Minneapolis.***** ...
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"The City Center tower is not Target's only property in downtown Minneapolis. After the company called its employees back to in-office work, they returned to *****other office spaces around downtown,***** but not the City Center. ...
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Some of this is an accounting decision. (Cost to retain unused space until 2031) - (Cost to break lease) = ? "Cost" includes operations, maintenance, insurance, taxes, etc.. Other considerations are that the property OWNER is trying to sell the building (and is losing money). Maybe the $110M lease buyout was actually a greatly discounted deal to give the owners some income before they sell the building at a loss.  
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The opening sentence could have better said, "Target is reportedly paying nearly $110 million to end a lease on A PORTION OF its downtown Minneapolis OFFICE space, but not all of it, and NOT its RETAIL space."
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There is nothing in the text about sales being a factor. The EMBEDDED VIDEO says that (all) Target sales have been flat for 4 years - not down, not up, but flat.(*) It also says that Target is shifting their efforts to enhancing STORES and cutting 1800 jobs in offices and warehousing. Target is STILL a 20,000+ person company.  
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(*) A 2-minute video is NOT an Annual Report or SEC filing, but it says that sales have been flat.  
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But you can take a headline or a 10-second soundbite and spin to mean anything you want.

Posted By: snafu929

...and walking away from the animals who do nothing but bitch and demand the perpetual bent knee to marxism.  I'd love to see them pull out of the urban sectors all together and just stick to the 'burbs and out state locations where the customers know how to behave and enjoy shopping there.  

Probably quite happy to drop $110 MILLION to do it!

Yes, if their accountants did their job with the numbers and if the legal dept negotiated with the property owners to get a great deal on the buyout rate, then, yes, they are "Probably quite happy to drop $110 MILLION to do it!"

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Never said anything about SALES by Target going down.....They are moving CORPORATE out of downtown.   Which was its main hub.   It is moving high paying jobs out of downtown (Minnesota), moving employees out of downtown, loss of downtown revenue is for other stores, parking, hotels, etc.   You know things that people use every day when going to and from work.  OR when corporate leaders have people flown in and wine/dine them.

 
This is just another "shift" of driving corporate headquarters out of MN.   It is then losing high end jobs (taxes), housing sales, etc.    But yeah.... the "cancel" of the left never thinks of this stuff.   They will be the ones bitching saying "we need to do more about the empty buildings downtown and the homeless and crime that is happening in those abandoned buildings.    YET they are the ones driving them out.    Tolerant left at its best.

READ THE LINKED ARTICLE!  Target is RETAINING OFFICES in downtown in other (probably cheaper - my guess) office space. Where does the article talk about moving high paying jobs OUT of downtown (rather to other downtown office space)? The ARTICLE (embedded video) specifically refers to FLAT SALES, **NOT** loss of downtown revenue.
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You are repeating some of OP's rants (without providing verifiable sources) and ignoring the linked report.  
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Target has been adjusting its HQ real estate for over 10 years. I don't know the MN geography, but maybe a local yokel can explain this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Target_Corporation#Corporate_affairs  
"Target Corporation has its headquarters on Nicollet Mall in Minneapolis[75] near the site of the original Goodfellows store. The complex includes Target Plaza North and Target Plaza South. Ryan Companies developed the complex, and Ellerbe Becket served as the architect. Target had the roughly $260 million complex developed to provide one location of office space for 6,000 employees. The 14-story Target Plaza North has 600,000 square feet (56,000 m2) of office and retail space, while the 32-story Target Plaza South has 1,250,000 square feet (116,000 m2) of space. In October 2014, Target completed construction of an 1,600,000 square feet corporate campus in Brooklyn Park, Minnesota, called Target Northern Campus."  
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Posted By: crsm27
Re: Am I reading the same article that OP posted?
Never said anything about SALES by Target going down.....They are moving CORPORATE out of downtown.   Which was its main hub.   It is moving high paying jobs out of downtown (Minnesota), moving employees out of downtown, loss of downtown revenue is for other stores, parking, hotels, etc.   You know things that people use every day when going to and from work.  OR when corporate leaders have people flown in and wine/dine them.  
   
   
 This is just another "shift" of driving corporate headquarters out of MN.   It is then losing high end jobs (taxes), housing sales, etc.    But yeah.... the "cancel" of the left never thinks of this stuff.   They will be the ones bitching saying "we need to do more about the empty buildings downtown and the homeless and crime that is happening in those abandoned buildings.    YET they are the ones driving them out.    Tolerant left at its best.

And now he’s tripping over this ?? I mean like NOW??
OP needs to get a life..😂 instead of looking for shit to fuck his mind.. it’s no wonder

It is actually showing what has happened to downtown Minneapolis.   It is showing you how the LEFT will kick and scream about things and push businesses OUT.    

 
It also hasn't been "5 years".... where do you get your 5-year mark?     Or you saying they could have been gone in 5 years?  Lease ending in 2031.

 
The OP is also showing HYPOCRISY of the left.    You know be tolerant.... yet they are not.   Target is still donating to LGBTQIA+, still selling products targeting that community, still was one of the first companies to use same sex couples in advertising, still doing same sex couple advertising, etc.     But yet the "tolerant" left is attacking them and they decided to cancel one lease they promised to stay in until 2031.    YET they are now driving them out of a state.  Those jobs in that office might be gone from the state.   Same goes for the revenue those workers brought to downtown MSP.

READ THE LINKED ARTICLE! I see nothing that supports your claims in that article.  
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You ask, "where do you get your 5-year mark?"  R E A D   T H E   A R T I C L E ! ! !  
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IMO, it was probably an ACCOUNTING decision to buy out the lease on vacant space that seems like it is probably high rent no-longer Class-A office space in a 52-story skyscraper that was built in 1983. I don't know the history of renovations, if any, but 1983 technical specs (electric, fire protection, emergency escapes, etc.) might be way below current codes and current NEEDS (for computers, networking, storage, etc.), another reason to opt for newer, cheaper real estate.

Posted By: crsm27
Re: So Target has been out of there for the last 5 yrs!!
It is actually showing what has happened to downtown Minneapolis.   It is showing you how the LEFT will kick and scream about things and push businesses OUT.

It also hasn't been "5 years".... where do you get your 5-year mark?     Or you saying they could have been gone in 5 years?  Lease ending in 2031.  

The OP is also showing HYPOCRISY of the left.    You know be tolerant.... yet they are not.   Target is still donating to LGBTQIA+, still selling products targeting that community, still was one of the first companies to use same sex couples in advertising, still doing same sex couple advertising, etc.     But yet the "tolerant" left is attacking them and they decided to cancel one lease they promised to stay in until 2031.    YET they are now driving them out of a state.  Those jobs in that office might be gone from the state.   Same goes for the revenue those workers brought to downtown MSP.

WIKI..... isn't an article.   It is facts or so called facts put in by people.    Not always 100% correct.

 
I also read it.     Target has been pulling out of MSP since GF riots.   When MSP downtown started to not be the safest.  When they were having protests up and down the streets.   When the "tolerant" left was disrupting everything.    

 
You might talk to people who live in the area to know what the fuck really is going on.  Same goes for talking with people who WORK FOR TARGET CORPORATE.... yeah.   Things don't get into WIKI.    About how employees don't feel safe walking to work from their vehicles, getting lunch, when partners show up and you want to wine/dine them, etc.    PLUS the shift to move many jobs out of state on the corporate level because of taxes, regulations, etc.

 
You talk that it is an "accounting" move.... moving out of the state is an accounting move.    

1. I cited wiki as a source for what I posted. You can check wiki and counter it and my arguments.  
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2. You provide ZERO sourcing of your claims. How am I supposed to check anything? "Somebody who lives in MN (that would be yourself, I think] told me ..." "I know a guy ..." "A famous general, you know who he is but I'm not going to name him ..."  
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3. Target employees -- "Somebody told me ...". How did you conduct your survey? By talking with Target employees who are probably like-minded with you and support your views ??? "I know a guy ..."
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4. Where does it say that Target is moving out of state? SOURCE? (Wiki mentions this Plaza and that Mall, etc., in MN but I have no idea how near or far those parcels are from "downtown."

Posted By: crsm27
Re: So Target has been out of there for the last 5 yrs!!
WIKI..... isn't an article.   It is facts or so called facts put in by people.    Not always 100% correct.  
   
   
 I also read it.     Target has been pulling out of MSP since GF riots.   When MSP downtown started to not be the safest.  When they were having protests up and down the streets.   When the "tolerant" left was disrupting everything.      
   
   
 You might talk to people who live in the area to know what the fuck really is going on.  Same goes for talking with people who WORK FOR TARGET CORPORATE.... yeah.   Things don't get into WIKI.    About how employees don't feel safe walking to work from their vehicles, getting lunch, when partners show up and you want to wine/dine them, etc.    PLUS the shift to move many jobs out of state on the corporate level because of taxes, regulations, etc.  
   
   
 You talk that it is an "accounting" move.... moving out of the state is an accounting move.    

You are clueless.    "someone told me".... no how about I witnessed it, been to the area, done work for Target, etc.    

 
Like I stated.... get your info from "wiki" when others get to see it with their own eyes, talk to people who work there, actually been there, etc.      

Just pointing out a fact that just hit the news.  If you go back and READ my whole post I believe I stated that I'd love to see them pull out of the urban core 100%.  Yes, they've basically been paying for empty desks since the plandemic but have said "fuck it" and told their lawyers to go cut a deal with the landlord to bail.  City Center is a shithole anyhow and it's been that way since the feral youth can run amuck 24/7 in it unless things have changed in the last few years.  

I ain't gonna read your silly post....Bruh...SHM
Man I don't even know what the big deal is. I mean do you wake up everyday looking for shit to piss you off...Bruh?

leaned that you can't be everything to everyone, so they'll be more successful if they go with the 80% crowd than the 20% crowd that make all of the noise and trouble.  

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