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azhacker 1523 reads
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what many dont even really understand. "LE" is about the least of the problems. One of my ATF's had to testify at the recent trial. She's had similiar issues to those above. There's a very good book thats been out awhile regarding this called "The Gift of Fear".

It's not always possible for the gals to communicate. I was with a gal once who took a call from another well known provider (after our session was over). She was referencing a hobbiest, the gal I was with was pretty open that something about the guy set "bells off" and that she'd avoided seeing him again. Needless to say the guy never got an appointment.

This is one of the original reasons for gals internet group and also highlights the benifits of a good strong local group of hobbiests. Who cares is some of us are jerks (who me::))....we're harmless jerks when you put it in the context above.

bdl22284 reads

Got stood up twice by this one.The killer is I would have paid her double her rate and ended up going to bed with hard-on because it was too late to make alternate arraingements. Supposedly fairly well reveiwed but on Tmans-any thoughts

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dwdawg2153 reads

I didn't have any trouble with her.
She's really very nice.
It has to be some kind of mix-up.
Worth the wait ....

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Lisa Real2673 reads

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bobb39502503 reads

I'm not saying you were at fault, but, as Lisa Butler said, maybe she got spooked by something said or implied.
It does happen.
Let it goe and move on.

Just my opinion...
B

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sharpdelta2542 reads

His, Hers, and the TRUTH!!

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AZJustJack2097 reads

Some of my best experiences have been when I finally manage to connect with a provider who I, for whatever reason, missed the first time (or sometimes twice).

As for being stood up, who knows what happened. You'd need to hear it from her I guess-could be just about anything with providers. We'd only be speculating with no basis.

Sometimes you keep at it, sometimes you cut bait. She's dang cute though, and sometimes persistence pays off.

But I wouldn't fault you either way.

Hope you let us know if it works out like you let us know when it didn't. That only seems fair.

Good Luck!

JJ



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azhacker1306 reads

This kind of goes back to the same "issue" someone else had with Sabrina. Sometimes the world gets in the way. As stated above you might have either "spooked" her or she couldnt reference you (happens sometimes)....or something unexpected came up.

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hotdogs1502 reads

You got lucky Dood you dont want that one

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Muffyman2238 reads

Hey - shit happens! I feel your pain. Never fun for any of us when something like this occurs especially late in the day. Give the lady a chance to offer an explanation and you will probably discover that there was some unexpected thing that occured for her. If you get the "Godzilla ate my car" type of story, then just move on to someone a little more professional and reliable.

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piranhad1259 reads

I guess this is the reason I like agencies, like Desert Divas, so much better.  You can always get hold of someone to find out what's going on, they keep you informed if there is a problem, and you have someone else to whom you can complain if things don't work out.  

Desert Divas was nice enough last night, for example, when someone in their office made a clerical error concerning the appointment I had set up, to knock $50 off the price.  This is why I prefer agencies to Independents.  

I know there are many excellent Independents out there (I have heard from several people that Playmate Megan is extraordinary... inluding even a Provider!), and I wish them all the success in the world.  If an Independent is well reviewed and well known, I think you have a better chance.

I have been stung, however, too, a couple of times by Independents, and I am frustrated when there is nothing I can do.  There's not exactly anyone to whom I can appeal for help.  

That said, I know there are advantages in Independents, too, and I don't mean to discount them.  

Simply put, try an agency like DD next time.  You have a much better chance of working things out, verification is simpler, (I never had to give them the names of any other Providers I'd seen, for example), and you know with certainty what the girls look like.  (I had one Independent, once, who bore no possible resemblance to the girl in the picture, and I was too polite to send her away.  I'm told I shouldn't be so polite in the future.)  Also there is no upselling.

Just my opinions.  I invite the opinions of those who disagree with me.

Fred

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bdl22090 reads

Appreciate all the feedback but this is a business and in business you make a phone call. Agree with Jack had a mix-up with Kortney and Riley awhile back with scheduling but when we connected they  both knocked my socks off. This one has a stink--I guess that's why she's low rent on CraigsList and a Tman girl-I guess the moral of the story is you get what you pay for-Next time I'll go for the xtra hundred and save some grief- A courtesy call goes a long way even if it is "the dog ate the homework"

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dwdawg1818 reads

Eh, edited errors. My bad ;^)

-- Modified on 1/17/2006 9:27:32 PM

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sedonaw2541 reads

whole different ball game. If you try to compare our  "business" to a traditional, legitimate business you'll be very disappointed. IF I HAD SENSED that a guy had the potential for the type of public attitude you are displaying(and bashing this girl without her here to defend herself-tacky). I would have skipped out on you, too.  Rightly so!

Here are some of the factors that I have encountered in my history of escorting that has much to do with how I conduct my business and who I conduct it with:

Eight years in the business
1) dealing with stalkers and having to have them arrested
2) dealing with cereal rapists and barely escaping being the next victim
3) dealing with theives
4) dealing with someone drugging my drink
5) dealing with someone abusive
6) dealing with L.E.(I've never been arrested)
7) dealing with other providers being brutaly murdered
8) my best friend being brutally raped.

You tell me how this is a regular sort of business and I will tell you that most every provider has these things in mind every time she books a call.  
Unfare to disparage her- without her here to defend herself.

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moebius81722 reads

I dont see how he bashed her at all. He was pretty mild imo. If your not showing up then a phone call is the least that can be expected.
If your no call no show then expect the hobbyist to be unhappy and make sure the other guys know so they wont waste their time or their money.

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sedonaw1930 reads

Come on. The caption, alone, is designed to deter business from her (a little harsh for the "crime" comitted don't you think?  The body of the message- "this one is a stink- probably why she is a low rent girl on Craig's list"...is a jab.  "You get what you pay for"....insinuates what?  This a public discusion board (and THE main one that exists for this trade).  I'm guessing that this work is this ladies livlihood??? It is for most of us.  

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moebius82573 reads

Well look at it from his side. she wasted something more valuable then his money, she wasted his time. He was pissed; i may have chosen an other phrase to express that frustration but then again maybe not.
She obviously wasnt concerned enough to even come here and give the usual thin excuse that we see in these situations "my car wouydlnt start" "i got scared he was le" or even "i fell asleep" the girls lack of response really tells you all the hobbyist needs to know here

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azhacker1524 reads

what many dont even really understand. "LE" is about the least of the problems. One of my ATF's had to testify at the recent trial. She's had similiar issues to those above. There's a very good book thats been out awhile regarding this called "The Gift of Fear".

It's not always possible for the gals to communicate. I was with a gal once who took a call from another well known provider (after our session was over). She was referencing a hobbiest, the gal I was with was pretty open that something about the guy set "bells off" and that she'd avoided seeing him again. Needless to say the guy never got an appointment.

This is one of the original reasons for gals internet group and also highlights the benifits of a good strong local group of hobbiests. Who cares is some of us are jerks (who me::))....we're harmless jerks when you put it in the context above.

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Wise Guy III2143 reads

A different experience happened to me with Samantha.  I got there late.  She seemed upset from the start.  It was a very rushed and hurried experience.  I would not repeat even though she is very sexy and attractive.

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AZJustJack3352 reads

We all get that you felt slighted. And rightly so. We've all been slighted at one point or another in this hobby-whether you are a hobbyist or a provider. Really does come with the territory.

The moral of the story isn't let's disparage someone when they disappoint us or let us down.

The moral of the story is we can't control what happens to us, or what other people do (or in this case, don't do).

All we CAN control, is the class and dignity with which we react to it. Calling someone low rent doesn't elevate-just drags you down to the level you ascribe to her.

Courtesy is a two way street-righteous indignation doesn't give you a pass on manners.

Backhanded swipes at someone who clearly doesn't participate in this forum, and therefore can't defend or explain herself is poor form.

5 yard penalty-repeat the down.

JJ

PS-I added this here after reading your reply because there is no point in additional useless argument back and forth on this. You don't see it, or call it candor, that's your right. I just opined differently-thats my right.

After further review, the penalty stands as called.

JJ


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bdl22797 reads

Don't want to waste allot of negative energy but feel I need to respond. My time is valued at $1000 plus an hour,I gave references and I got the "I fell asleep" story the first time. While my candor may put some people off most appreciate it. This is a public forum where I beleive we are hear to help eachother get the most for our money.Just as the few times I have seen a provider and enjoyed the experience I posted good reviews and even threw in a "plug" on the discussion board. There was nothing backhanded about what I said and interestingly there was some very negative stuff on CL(which I read for entertainment while being stood-up) that I didn't repeat because I din't experience it. As far as this not being a regular business I agree. If I was married I would be placing that in jeapordy by being screened and LE risk is a two way street.Not to mention the risk of stickey fingers and/or a driver or pimp. As far as low rent is it negative to call a $600 apt in Apache Junction low rent ??? NO, it's a factual statement.As far as "stink" I never met the girl but based on behavior something seems afoul. If the word stink offended someone that's seems to be an issue they should address with a therapist or some soap and water.Also, I called this individual based on good reviews I read here. If they benefit $$$ from those then when they fuck-up people have a right to know. I probably will be making an appointment with someone this evening and they will be paid well,treated with respect and dignity and may even get-off.They also will get an accurate review which if they provide a good service will increase their revenue. I'm sure this young lady just has some growing up to do and who knows maybe I will be pleasently surprized with an explaination which I would gladly post-Happy Tuesday-it's been real

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blue_iceman0011897 reads

wow, I'm surprised that your time is so valuable that you would spare any to offer a post on this board.  Also, you might be one of the few guys who can afford to see Isabella Manelli so why waste your time seeing someone who you call a "low rent" provider?

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