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azhacker 2835 reads
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your "special interest" relationship here. Your coming across as a total hypocrite. Furthermore there is no real "special interest" group here. There are a number of "private groups", the most well known of which was the infamous "boardroom" which you were a member of. Grandfathered rates, specials "VIP" status have existed for years here and elsewhere. You are trying to make it a big deal here. The real issue is that the agencies have taken a big junk of business from some of the indies. RPN was formed basically to raise rates and coerce "good" reviews thru the threat of a blackball list...

you sir are just shilling for a special interest group you have a personal vested interst in.....

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OC, I have no interest in picking a fight with you or anyone else. But this BS is officially done as far as I'm concerned. We all have every right to our own preferences and opinions. I see both indies and agency gals I pay my dime and I take my ride just like everyone else. Sometimes I pay full fare and some times I get a break....but every review I put up is dead nuts honest. Just like all the rest of the so called "shills" here. I dont see you or any of the others in your own little "faction" conributing new reviews or unbiased information...but your the 1st to consistantly attack the creditability of others.

I actually respect your intellect and opinion in alot of areas and would prefer to live in peace....however i'm simply done being attacked by you or others....

Further I'm tired of the subtrefuge you others seem to be willing to play with the rank and file of this board. I gaurantee that some of your little clique of providers and your faction know who "Andi Ryan" is yet you blatently support this BS....

I'll leave it to you and the gals to "come clean"...otherwise when it leaks out...and it will you can address the issues of your credibility...

So we can either "lock and load" or move on....

"don't tread on me"

Good advice from along time ago...
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Let's look at some widely-accepted definitions, from wikipedia.org:
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PIMP:  A pimp finds and manages clients for a prostitute, engaging them in prostitution, often street prostitution, in order to profit from their earnings. Typically, a pimp will force or pressure the women to stay with him; he may also protect them from other pimps or abusive clients. Pimping is a sex crime in most jurisdictions.  Often, pimps will initially present themselves as lovers or father-figures to women (who may be run-aways or otherwise lack a family network) before introducing them to prostitution and drug addiction. Most pimp-prostitute relationships are abusive, using psychological intimidation, manipulation and physical force to control the women in the "stable". Some pimps may not beat their prostitutes, as marks and bruises bring down both the price of a prostitute and the social status of her pimp.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pimp
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It is interesting that Wikipedia actually devotes a section under Shills to Online Message Boards:

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SHILLS:  In online discussion media, such as message boards, discussion forums, and newsgroups, shills may pose as independent experts, satisfied consumers, or “innocent” parties with specific opinions in order to further the interests of an organization in which they have an interest, such as a commercial vendor or special-interest group. For example, an employee of a company that produces a specific product may praise the product anonymously in a discussion forum or group in order to heighten and generate interest in that product, or a member or sympathizer of a special-interest group may pose as a highly-qualified expert in a specific field in order to give apparently disinterested support to whatever cause the group promotes.  In some jurisdictions and in some circumstances, this type of activity may be illegal. In addition, reputable organizations may prohibit their employees and other interested parties (contractors, agents, etc.) from participating in public forums or discussion groups in which a conflict of interest might arise, or will at least insist that their employees and agents refrain from participating in any way that might create a conflict of interest.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shill#Shills_on_message_boards
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The only "pimps" I've seen in this community are the agency owners/operators, and given the honorable way they appear to operate (with one exception noted last month) I would not apply the term to them.

We have, however, a lot of shills around here.  How many gentlemen have actually admitted to, and defended, preferred pricing and booking?  The problem is that they don't do so at the same time that they rave about the flavor of the week being touted.

In my opinion, the ethical thing to do is to put a note at the bottom of any mini-review or endorsement disclosing ANY special treatment you have gotten or expect to get from the person being discussed.  (This would include disclosing membership in a hobbyist group that has negotiated a price for you.)  In addition, I think it is completely fraudulent to post an endorsement giving the impression that you've had a session with a provider, if you haven't.

Just my $.02-worth.

azhacker2836 reads

your "special interest" relationship here. Your coming across as a total hypocrite. Furthermore there is no real "special interest" group here. There are a number of "private groups", the most well known of which was the infamous "boardroom" which you were a member of. Grandfathered rates, specials "VIP" status have existed for years here and elsewhere. You are trying to make it a big deal here. The real issue is that the agencies have taken a big junk of business from some of the indies. RPN was formed basically to raise rates and coerce "good" reviews thru the threat of a blackball list...

you sir are just shilling for a special interest group you have a personal vested interst in.....

***at edit"""

OC, I have no interest in picking a fight with you or anyone else. But this BS is officially done as far as I'm concerned. We all have every right to our own preferences and opinions. I see both indies and agency gals I pay my dime and I take my ride just like everyone else. Sometimes I pay full fare and some times I get a break....but every review I put up is dead nuts honest. Just like all the rest of the so called "shills" here. I dont see you or any of the others in your own little "faction" conributing new reviews or unbiased information...but your the 1st to consistantly attack the creditability of others.

I actually respect your intellect and opinion in alot of areas and would prefer to live in peace....however i'm simply done being attacked by you or others....

Further I'm tired of the subtrefuge you others seem to be willing to play with the rank and file of this board. I gaurantee that some of your little clique of providers and your faction know who "Andi Ryan" is yet you blatently support this BS....

I'll leave it to you and the gals to "come clean"...otherwise when it leaks out...and it will you can address the issues of your credibility...

So we can either "lock and load" or move on....

"don't tread on me"

Good advice from along time ago...
-- Modified on 6/3/2006 7:16:26 PM

-- Modified on 6/3/2006 8:51:52 PM

-- Modified on 6/4/2006 12:45:53 AM

JDRocks1447 reads

If we are going to follow your suggestion, let's do this properly. Since there are many and varied "entanglements" between people in this community that might potentially affect ones comments or posts, think the following designators should be considered:

GF   = Receive grandfathered rate from.........
VIP  = Have VIP rates at...........
B     = Boyfriend of .......
G     = Girlfriend of ...........
DP   = Doubles Partner with...........
SA   = Social Acquaintance ( see each other socially off the clock but not BF/GF)
PP   = Party Pals (have attended private parties thrown by one or the other or mutual friends)
TP   =  Travel Pals (have traveled together off the clock)
DB   = Drinking buddies

Get the idea?

azhacker2091 reads

you hit the nail on the head...

I'm a GF/VIP. I have a good relationship with more than a few gals and agency owners. I've done favors for and had lunch with some of both but have never recieved a free session or had sexual relationss with any provider here on other then a paid basis. I did spend one "platonic" evening with someone very special to me (I'd sessioned 3 times that day {including with her}...the combination of that and a bit to much broccali (sp?) on her end eliminated the possibilities....however it left me with the single best hobbying memory of my life for percisely that reason...

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