What is the purpose of TER and reviews?  I thought at one point it served as a protection for the gentleman that wanted a legitimate service.  Arizona and many other states had big problems with Cash and Dash.  So the gentleman that came up with TER had an objective in mind.  This site is widely known and used all over the country (as with other sites).  It serves as a good opportunity for the girls to advertise and the gentleman to expose rip-offs.  I agree that somebody should get the service that they are paying for.  With that being said I must vent.
    I stumbled across Jordan Kay's review today and got a feeling in the pit of my stomach.  Maybe I am overly empathetic or just a believer in justice but that review was simply mean.  It obviously is not the first time that I have seen a legitimate and great provider have this injustice.  I stumbled across the same BS at one point with AZ Angel and Madison Ave. Two girls I know personally and provide top notch service.  So I must ask where is the rip-off??  This reviewer states that he "should have stayed home." That is probably true, he should have stayed home!  In the review he mentions that "he was thinking with his small head." Why is this excuse so widely used!!!???  Do some people lack the ability to have a rational thought when they have a hard on? This gentleman is simply a user.  He used her. He had some qualms with the ambiance or her appearance but decided to stay anyways.  She did her job by offering up all of those lovely things that men love, bbbj, cg, mish.  A legitimate service was provided.  We are incapable of giving amazing chemistry to everybody that we meet!!  However, the intentions were good!  When a woman offers up her body to pleasure a man it is a big deal!  It is very intimate; I at least speak for myself.  These reviews can break somebody’s heart, spirit and a love for what they do, ultimately it can cost them their job!
    Please be mindful of people's feelings.  This is a service where ones self-esteem can be greatly diminished.  I would always encourage the ladies to give these gentlemen the time of their lives but sometimes no matter how hard you try, you can't please them all. Be fair!!
    If this reviewer is reading this post I have some constructive criticism for you.  Tell the lady next time that she was not what you were looking for and thank her for taking the time but it wasn't going to work out.  She more than likely will not take your money, so some time was wasted but nobody walks away with a broken heart.  It is called human decency!  I am a firm believer in treating people with kindness.  Treat the ones poorly that run off with your money, it is them that deserve the Karma.  Not the one that decorates her incall with a stripper pole because she thinks that it will make you guys happy!

Angelina Marris

I'm amazed someone would trash Jordan Kay in that manner. I havent read the review but speaking from 1st hand experience she's an awesome lady in addition to being a topnotch escort.

I'll defend the need to write a fair and accurate review...but there is an expectation of "fairness". No one can be everything to everybody...I think thats wht we have the phrase "your milage may vary"....

Knowing Jordan Kay as I do...anything less than a "7" on either looks or performance is a gross injustice to both her...and anyone else who might consider seeing her and be "scared off" by a bad review. I probably should have read the review 1st but just happened to see this and had to reply.

I went and read the review...obviously there were some chemistry issues. The guy is an experienced hobbiest and his reviews are pretty well done...he's a pretty tough "grader" but this was easily his harshest review.

Personally I think we have a couple of obvious issues...1st the incall rubbed him wrong...then he went thru with a session he shouldnt have. Jordan never let me out without 2 cups...she would have been pissed if I didnt stay for seconds...obviously a serious chemistry issue here. A "2" for someone who delivers full service is unfair grading...as for giving JK a "6" on looks...well a trip to the eye doctor might be in order.

All that being said hes a ongoing member with alot of reviews and is entitled to call it how he saw it...just like I can respectfully disagree with his call...

I just can't figure out why someone would be so unkind.  I had the same feeling, Angelina.

Ladies, always remember the only review that should matter is the one you give yourself.

-MJ

I couldn't say it better myself and don't want to even try!  

That was a very well written post. Life is full of a lot of inconsiderate and selfish people. I would like to believe that most people can see through the bullshit of that reviewer. I have seen AZ Angel, and whatever negative review she might have had would not prevent me from seeing her again.

I have read this post with much amazement. At first I could not believe this was even put on this board. I am a well known provider who has seen the hobbyist in question.  I found him to be honest, forthright and not one that would say something that he did not feel was true.  I do not know Jordon Kay, only by reputation, which has always been good.  I do not know if her place is dirty as was stated or not.  I just did not think it was right to flame the hobbyist for his opinion.  I was told to by a friend to stay out of this but as I said Iknow the guy and happen to like him as a genuine person.  I was also told I would get flamed for this post by the girls.  It is just my honest opinion.

Heres my nonpc answer to the above. Now before i get into why i disagree with the above well thought and impassioned plea for curtesy let me say ive never seen Jordan prefessionally but ahve chatted with her a bit though not in a long while, and im a bit surprised how any could find that truly nice person less than perfect.
However here is why it is important that a reviewer not feel curtailed in his response to spare feelings. ill bullet point for ease of rebuttal since i know the rebuttals are going to come fast and hard.
1 if a reviewer i know has a bad experience then it is very possible i will too. (again how this guy had a bad time when many more havent is a bit mystifying)
2 the reviewer in question paid his fee (supposedly i wont discuss the fake reviews for free time here but it DOES happen often) this did indeed entitle him to state his opinion freely.
3. This is America I may not scream FIRE in a theater but by god i can say the movie sucked and so can the reviewer. Ie i may disagree with him but i support him in his view strange as it is.
4 In a nutshell this board is of zero use if even the reviews are little more then ads for each hobbyists all time fave. I too have felt the pressure to write a decent review when i had a mediocre time and sadly gave in on one occasion.
for this board to remain useful every single review needs to be brutally honest and un sugarcoated. I would gently venture if an opinion is so ruinous to someones psyche then they are unsuited for such a subjective and judgemental career.
5 Yes we do sometimes make bad decisions merely because we are horny. I myself recently went to a thai parlor because of a resurgence of my oriental fetish and paid way too much for a very lackluster performance. I knew i should leave but decided what the hell So i can sympathize with our unknown hobbyist.
6 if all reviews were just sugar coated pap made for general consumption (most public ones are tapicoa at best)then why have this forum? I personally feel no need to ass kiss anyone irregardless of how many times ive had some quality time with them. Nor do i expect anyone to ass kiss me (well if your really hawt and into ass kissing i could probably be persuaded)

this post is too long and starting to ramble but please feel free to disagree its what makes debate healthy.

i agree that jordan could never be less than incredible.  she is wonderful.

I do agree with you. Keep in mind, some of the info on sites is, well, a bit questionable. After all, technically, it is an entertainment website. That being said, often, pictures presented are old or not representative of the lady. Reviews ranking girls 9 or 10 are often "staged" (do not review me if you do not plan on giving me a 9 or 10). Point being, it is hard to sift through the mud, and sometimes, because of the intimate, emotional nature of this business, people are left less than satisfied with their experience.

It is the collection of comments on someone that is used to determine whether they should be seen. Not one review. If there are more positive reviews, it may be worth the chance (though sometimes that is even misleading if you look at the reviewers history).

I think you are an extremely nice person. One I have had the pleasure of just chatting with some time back. It is important to remember, this is a business venture for you and the other wonderful ladies. And taking this too personally is not healthy because you will run into all kinds of idiots out here in lala land.

Kindness is most important. Respect. Honesty. Integrity. Unfortunately, this is not a business full of a lot of any of that.

I agree, sharing a body (either a woman or a man - keep in mind, ladies, sharing a body is a two way street, though I know that is not thought of that way in this business) is intimate. For a lot of folks, this is about ego. For others, just good old plain sex. And when ego's get bruised, a lot of stuff comes out.

Different strokes for different folks. Live and let live. Seize the moment. And everyone is entitled to their opinion. Jordan is a sweetheart. Chemistry happens (or not). Most folks will ignore one bad review, knowing Jordan is da bomb. So don't worry. And keep the fantasy alive.

I have known Jordon Kay for some time.  Jordon has always been one of the top if not the top escorts in this valley.  I cannot speak to the tidiness of her incall, except to say the one time I was there it was spotless.  In fact, she had just done some additional decorations.  I can't speak to towells or sinks.  The hobbyist that wrote the review has mutiple reviews and is respected in his community as a good guy.  So let me address the things I wish my fellow hobbyist would have done different.  If Jordon's looks were not to your liking the better part of valor would be to leave.  My guess is that those beautiful breasts got to your little head and the rest was history.  I have been with Jordon on many occasions in many different social situations and have never known her not to look her best.  I believe the comment about the hair was uncalled for and out of respect for Jordon I am sorry his experience caused this personal attack. Maybe, a simple statement like "we did not click and I did not particularly care for her looks.  Gentlemen, how many of these fine looking women would give us the time of day if we met them on the street or in a bar if we were not in the hobby and they were not a hobbyist provider.  Just a thought that passed my mind. One man's ten is another man's six or seven.  The hobbyist that wrote the review is entitled to his rating and his opinion.  I only wish the personal comments about this kind lady had not been used.  My take on Providers is that those that choose to enter this profession put themselves out every day to service big, tall, short, long, fat, ugly, good looking, clean, smelly, guys of all races and creed and try to give their very best each and every time.  Sometimes they succeed and sometimes they fail.  Sometimes middle-aged fat men like myself can perform sometimes we can't.  But, who do we blame, them or us.  We all know the answer to that, it must have been a generic blue pill, damm those quality control experts.  Hobbyist should always post their experience and I do not fault this one for his post.  Without trying to repeat myself I just wish his post was not so personal as I believe Jordon to be one of the finest ladies in this profession.  She has a heart of gold and never would purposely do anything to hurt or damage anyone.  While this doesn't solve the hurt Jordon may have felt after reading that review, if any of the other things mentioned were true I am sure she will correct them so the next experience by a Hobbyist will be a great one.  Twenty Five pages of reviews can't all be wrong.   So, good night Ms. Calabash, whereever you are.

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While I have not had the pleasure of meeting Jordan yet, she has been friendly and professional in our e-mails, phone calls and chat exchanges. One negative review should never negate all the pocitives.

Both Angellina & Loverboy 57 said it well, and I'll agree and add my two cents:  One, Jordan's terrific, no doubting that. Two, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but we should keep in mind that we all are playing a YMMV game, and any two people just might not click.  About the towels:  I've spent more than my fair share of time in that same apartment, and there always has been a clean cabinet of towels, and  I have seen the place spotless (Jordan's roomate is actually a "neat-freak.").  
And, four, while everyone is entitled to their opinion, Loverboy57 is right that the jerk who wrote the review got way too personal.  And,  since when does a little clog in a sink become such a major issue?  That reviewer should get a life!

It is a shame that such a review was written about such a lovely person. I cannot count the accolades I would  give to Jordan. To try and describe her  does not do her justice. I have seen my share of ladies, she is one of a very few I have seen repeatedly.  That is my highest praise. TER is  forum to exchange  information and opinions. The hobbyist was expressing his opinion.  He has other reviews and is from out of state so there does not appear to be any hidden agendas.  His negative seems more of problem with some quirks of the incall that I bet have been corrected. If he did not click and get to feel the Jordan experience it is his loss. It saddens me that a few words may have hurt Jordan, one  who deserves only the best. The divine Ms M (who ranks up there with Jordan in my  book!) brings up a great point in the power of words to cause harm. It is a sword that cuts both ways.  There have been well orchestrated and camouflaged attacks by some local ladies on individual gents, groups, agencies, and events both on the board and back channels. These too hurt feelings. Worse yet they were premeditated and driven by personal agendas. I am thankful that there are ladies such as Jordan and Angelina and many others who respect our feelings and treat us as valued clients. To all those ladies my thanks! Jordan my dear I think you are a star that can shine through any gloom.    


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I thanked you before when standing up for me.I just want you to know I agree with you on the flaws of the system. Reviews are meant to determine if the girl is a rip off or not and if she provides the services you are interested in. They are not because a hobbiest develops a personal vendetta and wants to harm a providers business.

I also have seen Jordan and know her reasonably well. I was surprised to read the review in question as my personal experiences have been nothing but spectacular when spending time with her. Jordan is not only a seasoned professional in this arena who works hard and knows how to please a man but she is also a genuine, sweet and compassionate woman. The gentleman in question does seem to be somewhat of a seasoned veteran himself having numerous reviews posted, hence my confusion regarding a less than spectacular report on his part. As we all know, there are so many factors that come into play when we schedule time together that we will never know what all of those factors were that led to this outcome. Perhaps the gentleman was having a bad day; perhaps Jordan was having a bad day; Hey, that can happen to any of us at any time. I do note however, that the bulk of his concerns seemed to me to be focused more on aesthetic issues as contrasted with service or performance issues. My only suggestion at this point for Jordan is to just move on from this aberration, which it is clearly, when one considers the enormous number positive reviews that she has behind her. Jordan is still tops in my book!

When I get a review that is NOT legit, and PM the reviewer that wrote it and he emails me back, FLAT OUT TELLING ME THAT ITS BOGUS SO HE COULD GET A FREE MEMBERSHIP, and I notify TER of the discrepancy, it sticks. When someone gets an HONEST review (All who have been to her incall know that this guy actually had been there with the fence comment) hers gets deleted? WHY?!?!?!?!?

1st...

The provider didnt complain, a third party made a comment.

2nd....

It helps to have friends...and JK has many many many...some of whom have spoken out with regard to something percieved as unfair.

It doesnt really take a crystal ball to figure out who you are And no doubt the review was "potentially" questionable...BUT...very few folks who post here (provider or "hobbiest") have JK's well earned position of respect. Regardless of what some may think....good karma brings happy endings....well at least some of the time

I am one of Jordan Kay's newest and biggest fans, and am one of the privileged to have spoken to her about this supposed travesty.  Ever since I read my first review on TER, I've always suspected that at least 10% of the information in reviews is fabricated to some degree.  This is an example that almost certainly fits into that category.

I think that everyone who has had the pleasure of meeting someone who is legitimately as beautiful on the inside as well as the outside (I know that may setting the bar high) needs to pool our heads together to find a better solution for membership to this board than just submitting reviews, and make a proposal to TER.  Judging by the expeditious response to this on this board and seeing for myself her reaction to this, we owe it to a person who makes life worth living to come up with something better.  I've seen for myself, how much pain the spoken word can inflict and false words can take the fun out of this for everyone.

And Mrs. Calabash, I know where you were last night(in my arms).  Eat your heart out Jimmy Durante!

Before I get to my thoughts - I have seen Jordan and loved the time I spent with her.  I would have absolutely no problem seeing her again and this one review, out of 25 pages of great reviews, would be seen as an aberration and not affect my decision.

Is there a good way to respond to this??  If I question why the review was removed, I'll get killed by most of the people on this board.  If I agree with the decision to remove the review, I'll be seen as just another Jordan supporter.  Other girls have reviews like the one that was removed, girls that don't have the following that Jordan has.  Nothing was done to correct/remove these reviews even though it did hurt the girls feelings.  Which is fine.  As long as the review was legit and the encounter actually took place, why wouldn't it be allowed to stay up?

Ditto...I have been emailing the staff about the fake review posted on our companion Tarah by a BigJimmy of Chicago.  Tarah never saw this person and was not working during the time frame the person alleges he saw her.  PM's to this BigJimmy went unaswered until we posted on the Chicago open discussion board calling him out on the review.  He emailed and said "don't email me anymore".  Facts were given to staff and yet they still refuse to remove the review.  Those that have seen Tarah no the review is no where near the truth.  Point is well taken.

You bring up a very good question. Let me first state that I didn't have any influence on the removal of the review, unless my post made a difference. Being a supporter of anybody or anything is not a bad thing, even if it is against the "norm." I try to live my life having my own identity, opposed to what everybody else thinks or feels.  In this case it didn't have everything to do with "Jordan Kay" as much as it had to do with a person just being plain mean.
    I wish that other girls out there would get the same vindication when it pertains to false reviews or malicious ones for that matter.
    We put ourselves out there for you great gentleman.  That is what most of you are. I hate to see spirits being sabotaged. I wish we could keep this hobby and profession fun and passion filled as it should be.  Let's not let those few pessimistic individuals ruin it for all.  

MAKE LOVE NOT WAR!!

xoxo

Angelina Marris

No need to thank me sweetie.  I call it like I see it.  Long live Phoenix and the wonderful providers in it.  You are one of them my dear along with others.

xoxo
Angelina Marris

Yep, a widely used excuse and a pretty lame one.  To get me to think with my "small head", a girl has to attract the brain in my "big head"; if she does that, the setting could be the city dump and I wouldn't care.

why was this gentlemans review removed? If it was removed merely because it was a bit harsh then i have to question the usefulness of this boards review sytem.

pm to moderator
it looks quite bad when an honest albeit critical review is removed.
If this board will no longer allow criticism of the providers in a review then why does it exist?

I see nothing but high marks for her recent reviews.  So wht's this all about then???

I have to say I agree. I have mostly 8s 9s and 10s and I got one mediocre review a few months ago and I contacted the guy. He admitted to me that he did some reviews because he wanted a vip. I forwarded the info to TER and they left it up. I have heard this same thing from many clients before and am surprised that it has not been said before. It is a shame when a person does an honest review it gets taken off because a few people complain with no legitimate reason. Makes you wonder how many have been the same and were just not posted. So much for it being an honest and fair community huh?


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Wouldn't it be a perfect world if all the providers who get a less than perfect review were able to have it removed???  So much for honesty and fairness.  Hmmm............

I agree too!  Just so you understand that I would speak up on your behalf as well.  I tried to dispute a GOOD review of mine because it wasn't real.  I only have 10 reviews up right now but if you look at them all you will notice that there is a duplicate review in there.  I contacted TER and the person that duplicated the review.  TER never dropped it even though the gentleman admitted to it being a mistake.  This is a tough system to get around.  The only thing I can suggest is let it be known.  Post your concerns on the public board and keep writing TER.  When all else fails all we can do is walk through life with our heads held high and the knowledge that we are valuable woman regardless of a few less than perfect reviews.

xoxo
Angelina Marris

Politics my dear Politics

I think some PEOPLE forget that TER was created for the purpose of the CLIENT exchanging information on the PROVIDERS they see. Since its inception its been tweaked some, It's since been sanitized to be made more PROVIDER friendly. I don't discount that there are some great providers and some shitty providers. But CHEMISTRY is a huge thing when it comes to this hobby. You either have it with some one or you don't. As for some of the Ladies especially those that might be classified as BBW  such as Jordan, AZ Angel, ect.. that is a very large grey area. To some guys the pics look great but the lady when you see them unclothed or in person is just to big for your taste. I haven't read the reviews at all. All I'm saying is this Do remember this board is for the guys to exchange info. So some of the info isn't always nice. But that is also why its IYHO. The smart consumer will read more then one review.

I personally wish that the ladies where not given so much access to the reviews. I know a lot of people don't feel that way.

After moving from LA this is defiantly one of the more provider active boards. I think that is good to a point. But please ladies do realize what this website was created for. So that guys would not get ripped off. So that information could be passed along. And above all it could be done anonymously . Good - Bad- Indifferent..

As for this line:  "When a woman offers up her body to pleasure a man it is a big deal!  It is very intimate; I at least speak for myself.  These reviews can break somebody’s heart, spirit and a love for what they do, ultimately it can cost them their job!"

This is probably one of the HARDER job’s to choose in life. I have been in and around the about business either escort agency,  Strip Club Manager, or my current as a Editor and adult video Director for many yrs. There is nothing simple about this job. But and this is a HUGE but. If your in the escort game it is probably the most cruel of the adult business's. You are offering a service like a Plumber. Some people will love your service other will hate it. That is part of this Job. It is part of this board ( website) and any other like it for the Consumer to write a review. I wish more guys would write honest reviews and not sugar coat them and make it sound like there in love with every women they see. I find that alot of the guys only review the girls they see and like. Most guys are too polite to write bad reviews or even marginal ones. In the last few yrs TER especially in LA has become a very weak source of info because too many guys are scared to write honest reviews because the ladies either won't see them because they wrote a bad review of another provider. If we can’t be honest on here it takes the integrity of the website and the purpose of it and makes it pointless. I can’t figure out why ladies don’t want honest reviews written even if they are harsh. As sad as this sounds your in competition with every girl on this board for your income.

I find it very hard to believe that every girl has 10-10 or even an 8-8 average please there has to be some people that don’t mesh but again that is what this board is for…………

I just got back from  6 days of  touring the Twin Cities and am glad to be home!!  I am so tired!Thanks for the kind words for they made me feel good.Now thanks to everyone who called me and my regulars and told me i was missed and needed in Phoenix lol...Let the good times roll for i am back and horny as hell!

-- Modified on 4/22/2005 10:44:29 PM

Jordan, we have yet to meet but we have seen a lot of the same great gentlemen and I do not remember any of them saying anything less than that you are a sweetheart.  I am not sure what happened but I am sorry you were hurt.  I guess it is not totally understood how hard sometimes it can be to try to make everyone happy. You are beautiful and you know that so no worries.  Muah!

Here???? I too have asked to have a review that was not real taken off and I didn't even get a response. It is all in who you know.

would this review be considered just plain mean too and can we have it removed? A review of a very good friend that she wants removed too:

for looks 5 for performance. He writes and I quote "I have been with many providers and written many reviews but this was the first and only time I was unable to get off. Although she is very sexy in her pictures, there is a white trash quality to (deleted) that really turned me off. She is very proud of her pierced pussy and kept sticking it in my face. The fishy smell was a complete turn off. She did a cbj and bragged how good her tongue pierce would be..............it wasn't. way too hard ! After the smell of the fish, the white trash talk and that hard bj (think she was trying to suck my wallet out of my dick), I called it quits and took the three hundred dollar hit!

Now this girl has over 20 reviews that date back to 2001 and maintains a consistent 9 or 10 for looks and 8-10 for performance. The man who reviewed her had done at least 30 reviews.

I have a good review and a so so review both of which I asked to be removed. One because it just never happened even though it was a good review and the other becuase the guy got caught trying to rip me off and posted a so so review afterwards. Neither of mine have been taken down. The only review I did have taken down was from an obviously vindictive man who I could prove I had never seen by his e-mails to me.

Start a hobbyists only back channel for what you want this board to be.  Don't invite any providers.  I wish more providers would support this board even more than they do.  Their opinions and points of view are important to me.

Very well said.

That's the spirit. You go get 'em tigeress. Jordan rocks!

This discussion was started with good intentions by Angelina. While everyone has expressed their opinions on the subject what we as a collective group have failed to realize is that providers are human beings,clients are human beings and being human makes us very unperfect. While we would all like reviews good or bad to be written tactfully,truthfully and over all be of good use for other hobbiests to decide who to see, and providers to see how to improve their services. But some people aren't tactful,truthful or concerned with the common good of their fellow hobbiests and providers. For every bad review there is two sides of a one sided story. If you just took the reviews for face value and made an evaluation based on the cumulative number of reviews then those that are just plain mean,vendictive,or overly harsh will be dismissed by the discerning hobbiest. Anyone can write anything about anyone on these types of sites, just because it is in print doesn't exactly make it gospel truth.
Just my 2cents.
Peace,Passion and Love,
Malissa xoxox

WARNING: This is a rant.

My goodness!  We are providers, not plumbers.  I took the incall comments personal, because I share the environment.  No, I am not a neat-freak Jeffrey.  But for the record, that floor is not dirty.  The "furnitureless living room"... who the f#*% cares?!  And as of Thursday 4/22/05 that bathroom is squeaky clean.  
Who the h&%@ cares what the d#!* place looks like when a 10 like JK is inviting you in?!  I have seen her nekked (Unlike Mya,who's seen more!) and thus my score is validated.  
I adore Jordan Kay.
xxoo to everyone from M.J.

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-- Modified on 4/24/2005 4:20:41 PM

this site was originally set up for the hobbyist.  Honest info is why I come to this site...and therefore help me make an informed decision on who I want to see & spend MY money on, based upon looks, performance, attitude, location, etc. I agree that seeing all 8s and 10s makes me wonder at times also..no one provider is that good every time when one's own personal problems and chemistry can affect the outcome of a session.  AT least when an occasional lower mark shows up you know the provider is human and you therefore do a little more research and maybe even exchange email before setting up a session.  If the provdier actually is that good...then one bad review shouldn't even be a thing to worry about.  One thing that I dislike is when other provider come to the rescue...if the review is that bad and the provider reviewed doesn't agree with the review ..."Let her defend herself!"

It is not all who you know for i dont know anyone at Ter..That is bs..Untrue that is the only way to have reviews removed who you know...

-- Modified on 4/24/2005 10:19:25 AM

Now,if I walked into a situation (whether being client or provider) that I knew I was less than pleased with, I simply would not subject myself or the other person to a negative experience.  I would appologise and leave!!  Hello???!  I have done this with clients that I knew I would not be able to work with.  I welcome my clients to do this with me rather than go off and write a disparaging review.  Now I am in support of one being able to express their satisfation or lack of, but when you start out on the wrong foot it is your own damn fault for staying there!  It is one thing to express your opinions and rate your experiences, but to disparage with intent of doing harm or damage to another person that is simply bad KARMA.  May you recieve exactly what you give!!!

The reviewer was obviously unhappy about alot of things. It was also obvious he had been there and had the experience. Good or ill doesnt matter what does matter is that this message board is removing a review that was written and initially posted with no explanation why.
If this board just turns into yet another ATF schill center then it is of no use.
As the money side of the equation im a bit concerned at the actions of the moderator who removed that review hence my displeasure...
Im withholding judgement this time since you are correct in one critical point it was a very mean spirited review.
I will note however many other reviews equally mean in spirit and tone have stood and been included. Look at Malissa's sometime for an example of reviews that should have been removed but weren't.

That is not very nice but was the review from someone who had seen her? If so, then the point is that it is not nice to make someone feel bad but at the same time it is not fair if someone voices their own opinion and it is real and it gets deleted.
Jordan is awesome but people are entitled to say what they feel and the rest of us wonder why when we have one that is not even real we cannot get it deleted.

I was stating my opinion, not trying to defend.  I have seen both points of view and find validity in both.  Northdak I could say the same for you after this post though, weren't you just speaking on sbjohnwe's behalf?  Haven't we been discussing the freedom of speech on this thread?  We are free to say what we would like, with freedom comes a great power.  We could better one's life with our words or we can make it worse.  I think that this business can be very cruel but does it really need to be?  Why does a business that promotes one of the greatest things in life such as sex and intimacy need to be cruel?  Some choose to make it that way.  
    All of the gents that want to state their opinions amoungst the other gents are welcome to do that.  TER does have it's rules though.  Let me quote them. GUIDELINES FOR SUBMITTING REVIEWS:

#2 Be honest and fair in your reviews-this is what the providers do for a living. PLEASE BE WARNED: WE WILL NOT PROVIDE ANY REVIEWS THAT SLAMS OR DENIGRATES A PROVIDER, NOR WILL WE POST REVIEWS THAT CONTAIN SUCH DEROGATORY TERMS SUCH AS: cunt, bitch, slut or any politically INAPPROPRIATE WORDING THAT MIGHT HURT SOMEONE'S FEELINGS.
We do have freedom of speech, but that freedom has it's limits.  If we could speak freely on TER than we would all be UNMODERATED!

repeat the same message...However..you started this thread ...and it looks to me and others that you are coming to Jordan's rescue so she isn't portrayed in a bad light....she is a big girl and if the review is too harse or not true then let her defend herself.  It just seems that whenever one provider doesn't like a review she has received....some other provider starts the drama on this board.

I agree with you 100% DonnaNextDoor, its not nice but yes, he did see her and his feelings are valid.
Not everyone is blessed with the ability to express how they feel in a manner in which noone is offended.
One negative carries little weight when you weigh it with the majority.
I dont think were giving the guys who read our reviews enough credit if we think that one bad review is going to hurt us.

My personal feeling is that....yes...be truthfull should you choose to review a provider. HOWEVER, that being said......there is no need nor gain in trashing a lady either. I have been with a couple of very highly rated ladies and chose not to review them as it was one of those...we just did not click things. If it is a total ripoff or they misrepresented themselves...then by all means....let's hear about it. If it was just not a mind blowing experience but you did get what you came for...well....state it that way and let bygones be bygones.

By the way I do think he could have handled it better as far as his approach. I don't like to see anyone hurt that way. I didn't want you to think that I condone his approach. Jordan is a nice girl and does treat the guys great

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