Since Rub's post in no way breaks any rule that I am aware of and is not a personal attack, I will not remove it. You are free to post an answer but keep it civil. Their seems to be a genuine interest in the sunject. So until I beleive the thread has gotten out of hand, I will let it remain. However I will be keeping a close eye on it.
I am not one to post things that upset me, but I feel so insulted by this. As a provider it is my personal belief that freebies for reviews is not honest. Sorry to bring this topic up but please bare with me on this. I became a member of TMans post, an offer was presented to exchange a review for a freebie. I declined for my beliefs and the fact I give freebies only to my husband. Tman said he understood. Then 2 months later I receive this email:
when are you going to give TMAN a freebie girl? I don't give a shit about your husband! I think I have been pretty good to you, don't you think?
This I believe is just so rude and unprofessional. I have removed myself from his POST. I apologize if anyone feels this is out of topic for this forum. I sincerely believe this information should be shared.
and you're just one in the long list of girls that he's contacted for freebies. Good for you for saying no, and if all the ladies would do that then he would just go away.
He's not really respected in this community, and most of us share your opinion of him.
I understand this problem has extended to guys who belong to his list. I know several providers that will not see a guy if he says he is from the TMAN Post. They say there have been just to many problems. Where do these guys come from?
However I get his list and have for quite awhile. It, like the other list is not a good tool to screen or to decide who to see. It is a source of contact info that is all. If you depend on it for a screening tool thats just damn silly. I would only consider it an advertising source. ANYONE can get on any of the lists by either asking or paying the fees involved it doesnt take a rocket scientist to find either one, i managed it after all....
As for your personal issue i agree and have asked him to stop obviously to no avail. However I'm not going to stop getting it since it is a good source of contact info. I am sorry to see you leave Rub i enjoyed reading your intros.
Good Luck to you.
Rub send an intro to Dave. He is a nice guy.
Moe you are a good guy and what you say makes sense. I don't even have a problem with someone wanting sex for free. But if you are told no leave it alone. Tony has issues but he is not your responsibility. You just use his list. Me I use Dave's list and I know you have issues with him. He is a nice guy and I can trust Dave.
I have a good friend that does this for a living. I will not accept her service for free. I would never ask and I will not accept them for free. When I help her with something I don't want her to think I did it cause I want services. I do things for people all the time and I don't want anything from them. She is my friend and this is how she feeds her kids. I love giving her money. Hell I would give her the money without her services. But thats me. BTW she rocks my world and we both like it.
The problem is he had some success with the process in the beginning. I also kind of think he's going on the 1% principal (if i ask 100 women "would you like to have sex" 99 of them will slap me and 1 will say yes)unfortunately you piss off the other 99 and that's what is happening here. I don't see a solution other than the obvious one. It is a really good source of contact info however so i put up with the negatives to get the positives.
I haven't had the "solicitation" emails from Tman so I don't have a personal problem with him. However I have had numerous emails from his list members that do not follow my "terms and conditions" rules. It seems they aren't taking the time to read my site (once again! lol) and are just emailing with out any info on my services or how they work. The really rude one's I just delete, some I will point in the right direction and others I respond to their email with the bland "read my website before contacting me" reply. I have also had several that have made appointments with me either verbally or via my online appointment form and either never confirmed or confirmed and never showed up or called to let me know they weren't going to show up which is a HUGE waste of time and a loss of revenue to me since I honor appointments and turn away walk ins if I have a set appointment. I have to honestly say that with Dave's list I have NEVER had these problems. This is just my opinion but Dave's list guys seem to be of a higher class and are much more appreciative of a providers time and cost.
what is the TMAN Post? Is it another board? Is it just based on Phoenix providers?
To the moderator,
Would you be so kind as to delete the negative message that Rub has written of me as well as all the responses. It causing much issues with many others as well as bad mouthing me considering that this is an issue beteween Rub & I. Thank you.
Since Rub's post in no way breaks any rule that I am aware of and is not a personal attack, I will not remove it. You are free to post an answer but keep it civil. Their seems to be a genuine interest in the sunject. So until I beleive the thread has gotten out of hand, I will let it remain. However I will be keeping a close eye on it.
It appears this goes far beyond Rub and Tman. I would say many providers are involved in this issue. And I think it is something that all hobbyist should be aware of. It may affect the way many gals think of us men.
I am not by any means trying to get on anyones badside however I agree with the 99 out of 100 scenario. I think we all know T-man is harmless other than his high sex drive, which is by the way perfectly within legal limits. I am do believe Rub is justified to voice her anger as well, I know I would be pissed if I had been in her position.I also want to let you know that I support any action you take Rub, we are all in this together as providers in the area. I too have had several bad experiences with members of T-man's not showing up on time, or at all , expecting last second appointments, rude and vulgar e-mails. Not to mention the sexually explict solicitations. I know everyone is susposed to have a little fun, but half the time I feel like LE is e-mailing and trying to set me up when T-man's members contact me. On the other hand I have met two or three excellent clients from T-Man's list. I guess basically you never know what you are going to get, so check your referenes no matter how a client hears about you.
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