Well the time to go silently by has ended.  No more fun and games and just searching the board for new girls and information, the time to act is upon me.  Let me first start by saying, NO I don’t have a VIP membership, and not due to lack of money.  I just don’t feel like I need one.  Secondly, yes I know I only have 4 or so reviews, but as many here can attest, I have had that many sessions in one day.  I say the above to validate my opinions as there are some on the board who love to say stuff like “who are you to say…etc, and blah blah blah”.  

AZ Confidential, Club TLC, Mystique, Desert Diva’s…..are all GREAT!  This is no shill I just felt like saying it.  I have had drinks with Scott, Taylor, Jack and Paul.  These people are great and I had a great time with them all, albeit I might have had a few too many (Taylor and Scott especially have seen that).  Why do I say this?  Because I have paid rack rate for EVERY appointment that I have had.  Because the service I have received is awesome and because at the end of it all this is a BUSINESS.  In my field, if someone wants a discount and they are going to do multiple transactions with me, then I gladly give it.  This whole boardroom, shill, no one wants to play in my party is all B.S.  Who the F cares.  I have been to the M&G’s and have met some of the “boardroom” guys.  They all seem nice and if they wanna ask for a discount, and receive one, then ok.  Who are we to dictate the goings on of other people.  A very popular program says “don’t take others inventory”.  It has to stop here and now.  I have seen postings from other boards saying that Phoenix is a joke.  Girls from other towns are not coming here specifically because of the drama on the board.  Ginger Lea is the first true PSE to come to town in a LONG time, why you ask?  Because of the BS here.  

I contacted an indy this last week because all of the flame she was receiving on the board and I had to find out what all the fuss is about.  I haven’t seen her, but I am going to and she can thank the ridiculous posts for that.  

I use agencies, why?  Cuz its easier for me, and I have done it for so long.  I have tried indy’s a couple times and they flaked, so back to the agencies.  I never ask for a discount and don’t expect one.  I would NEVER ask for a discount from a girl, but guess what, that is ME.  If someone else does and they get one, they are a better negotiator than I am.  That’s all.  Plain and simple.  

I just had to say this, because it needs to be said.  In a business where there are multiple personalities, sometimes with the same person, we all just should do what TER is meant for.  Share good and bad experiences, search for a person to spend time with, and get down right FREAKY.  

Thanks again to the aforementioned people who have made my hobby days good…and here’s to meeting more people like that to make my future hobby days GREAT!

Jason

Well said and written Jason I agree and have said the same,to many here meddle in other peoples biz and choices and don't know how to live and let live

 Rose edensgarden

just an FYI, you will be chastised soon.  The usual suspects will start chiming in and will try to act like either:
A)There is no drama.
B)If there is, you are causing it.

The fact is that I travel a lot so I frequent quite a few different boards, and none even approach this one in drama.  It is actually comical, especially in light of what happens when someone brings it up.
Like you said the main agencies here are top shelf operations for sure. However, there are plenty of good indies in PHX too.

"there are plenty of good indies in PHX" and they are now being featured on a new site called SinfullyExoticLadies.com. Like both you and Jason, I've used agencies for the sheer ease of setting dates. I've only recently started seeing indies again and this site seems to list only the well known and trusted ones.

I don't need the hassle of setting up a date only to have her flake or not even be the one in the picture, but this site does some of the work for me and weeds out the bad ones. Kinda nice.

As for the drama you find on this board, I look at it as a train wreck you gotta watch. It has absolutely no value other than gratification of those that write the posts. Jason is right in that this is a business. However, this discussion group's intention was to be as an avenue of communication between hobbyists for the exchange of information about providers.

I think it has strayed from that point and that's why, as my own personal choice, I'm spending less time here. Other boards are popping up, like the one mentioned above that has the info, without drama, that I seek.

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Another voice of reason.
pay your money, get laid, its easy.No drama.

Being a new Indie, I don't get it either! I was talking to a dear friend the other day -who also happens to be someone who I have f*cked his brains out on MANY an occasion- and he asked me  my opinion about the drama on the board. I pretty much was incredulous-what drama? I have been too busy to look! It al goes back to the age old rule "you get what you focus on" My focus? Have fun, get "freaky" (like you said Jason) and treat others with  kindness,understanding and respect. I came to this community because a friend of mine said " I know you love sex and I know you love people" Man, she had me pegged! It saddens me to know that so much animosity and ill will is associated with one of the best decisions I have ever made, but the bottom line is choice. I choose to be here, I choose who I see, and you better believe it- I choose to be FREE of drama. Keep it simple guys- life's a great ride! "Nuff said. Piper

I posted sentiments exactly like this a month or so ago and I was lambasted by....well you know who. I was "out of line" and I was the one creating the drama. At least that is what I was told. What has changed?

comes from a very small % of the "population" and is further fueled by aliases. There has always been a misconception regarding "shilling", reviews and rate structure.

The assumption from some is that by and large "shills" are inaccurate and a "quid pro que" (sp?) for a discounted session and that "VIP" rates are specific to various groups that use unscurpulous tactics and are demeaning.

While there is some truth in the sense that both hobbiests and providers "special interest groups" (yes the gals have then also) can and do "pound the boards" occasionally the reality is that most is accurate and well intentioned. I've never ever posted inaccurate 411...ever. What would be the long term benifit? or the short term gain?

All that would occur is someone would have a bad time and blast it all over the BBS. The only purpose a "shill" has is to give props to someone you actually like and put that good usable information where its easy to find.

As for the pricing, almost all my "VIP" rates (and yes I have alot of them) have come from the gals. My best source of "referrals" has been my "gal friends" and normally when I call its "so and so just raves about you and I'd love to see you, BTW I'm going to give you my rate for regulars...you just cant mention it to anyone"...

As for gals running other gals off, well the reality is simple...the more drams you see from a gal here on the board the more likely she is to have and create "issues".

One of the best examples of "great conduct" would be Piper. She's always got something good to say...

As a side note let me be the 100th (or is it 200th) to give her props. Trust me you wont be disappointed...period. And if by chance you are feel free to blast me here...BTW it would be the 1st time

take a pic of it, put a price on it, answer the phone.

the only hard part is the d**k

This one's for you "Tex" When I am back in town, I would like to buy you a Texas Tea (or whatever libation is your personal favorite) 'cause you have just been this really great guy consistently. Kudos to you! Love, Piper

So you owe me a drink or two.  Full price, of course!!  

Taylor