here. If it is that bad to see this guy, tell him no. No need to tell him anythinmg else about himelf or lack of cleanliness. Simply refuse the appointment, end of story.
Sorry, but I had to use an alias for this one so I don't hurt anyones feelings.
I received an email from a guy(who shall remain nameless but I know most of the ladies know who he is) with a request for an appt in the very near future. The problem is that I have heard from SEVERAL sources that he is ok but he always stinks so terribly bad w/body odor that no lady will ever see him again. He still is able to get appts though with either ladies who don't check or don't care. I've heard (and read) this info about him. What would be the proper, yet professional way to handle this matter? Should I just get back to him and say, "hey, everybody says your hygeine is so terrible that they would never see you again" or should I make it clear to him that he needs to be freshly showered? It's gotta be pretty bad if several well-respected providers won't go near him. Any ideas on how to handle this one? Thanks in advance
I know the ladies try to deal with whatever odd quirks of nature are thrown their way. In this case you can either do the side step and just never schedule, hold your breath and gut it out or be honest up front. If the gent is an otherwise good client it may be time for someone to let him know. If it was ( or is?) me then I would want to know. He may not realize he has this problem. It may be hygiene, but could be medication, certain vitamins or something in his diet. If it can be fixed a "fresh" start for him and the ladies would be a blessing. Now who is it to tell him? If you know of a lady or gent he respects or is his friend that woould be good. If not then ask your sisters advice on who should be the one to counsel him. Of course the easiest and safest thing is to just ignore his requests, keeps you out of the issue but the problem continues.
PS you could see him and tell him you start all sessions with a shower... soapy slippery bodies can be fun!
I only wish all guys had your hygiene. No, this guy is soooo bad that he is on MANY ladies DNC list. Hint without hurting feelings-he is from somewhere a little way S of Phoenix. His odor is so infamous that he has problems finding a lady to see him. What a dilemma.
here. If it is that bad to see this guy, tell him no. No need to tell him anythinmg else about himelf or lack of cleanliness. Simply refuse the appointment, end of story.
How about the truth...hey big boy word is you have BO, bad breath and smell like tiller the hun...not interested...unless you clean shave, shower and are inspected for lice...with clean clothes....we may be whores but we are not dirty whores with bad hygine
kindly of course. ASK him if he's even aware of the issue. If he is and as suggested above there is an underlying issue thats being worked on then you are in a position to provide positive back channel feedback to other gals that he is not inconsiderate and thoughtless.
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Additionally he might not actually be aware (also mentioned above)....you cant fix something your not aware of. Your doing him a true kindness by telling him...
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This stuff totally blows me away. When I would have session-I had a routine. To me it was more of a date- not just a session. My list of must do's- of course a shower, shave and trim body hair, nails- close to the time of the appointment. Also use a little body spray to keep me fresh- lol. Also mouthwash just before she arrives. My house needs to be impeccably clean- not just the bedroom- but the whole house, fresh clean ironed sheets- washed that day so they don't smell musty or dusty. Run to the store- make sure I have plenty of different fluids- bottled water, soda, diet, gator aid or propel, Red Bull (if low on energy and sleep) and a host of drinks and wine. I always have a large supply of condoms and lube. She is my guest and I want her to feel welcome and appreciated. Yes- I know I am paying for her- but for my little work I get sooo much in return. It’s surprising what a little thoughtfulness can do.
Am I the only one that is nuts about this stuff? Well okay- sounds like it is only one guy- but I just wanted to let a few know on my little routine. It seems like most here are pretty decent when it comes to this.
With that said- as embarrassing as it can be- I much prefer people to be upfront and honest with me. Just like if I am doing something that is not so pleasurable- tell me- I won’t be offended- I never said I was perfect- lol.
sorry for my rant.
Gotta go with modprod on this one. But, here is a secondary delimna.
Finding the correct person to talk with him is gonna be difficult, but is key. But, YOU being the one - given you haven't seen him and would not know first hand of the issue, is gonna complicate things since he will infer (correctly) that he has been the subject of less than flattering BC discussion. But, if he reads TER (and this thread) then as soon as somebody talks with him - he is gonna know that he has been discussed.
Since his reputation is that he is an OK guy and body odor is really his only notable detraction, then keeping him in the community is good for the ladies (IMO) (assuming the odor issue is dealt with - if possible). So, simply punting the issue may not be the best thing for the community.
As an aside, I personally find delivering unflattering comments to a fellow human one of the more difficult things to do in life. You are dealing with a person's feelings and emotions and perturbing what is already a potentially difficult conversation by inferrences of that subject being widely discussed by others, well, that just complicates things. But, sometimes the need for that conversation outweighs the downside. The situation you describe may be such a case.
May the "gods of Tact" heap enormous amounts onto the person that talks with him.
Ok, I found out that the reason nobody will see him is that he refuses to shower. It seems that ladies have already told him this. He doesn't use deodorant and his lower parts are as stinky as they come.
I'm just going to tell him outright. I don't view it as a loss of business(especially if seeing him will effect me psychologically). Perhaps, if I tell him like it is, he may try to change for the better. Doubtful though. Imagine...a guy who can't even pay a lady to spend time with him. That's really bad. Maybe he just works cleaning fish hahahaha. Had to get a laugh in there. Thanks to all who tried to offer suggestions.
Only asking,
I came across the same dilemma and give kudos to you for tackling the problem and not just sidestepping the appt. like I did.
I think this is an opportunity to inform some who just may not know what is necessary
in order to have impeccable hygiene.
Not only is a shower necessary,(not several hours ago either). BUT (no pun intended) use soap along with some SCRUBBING! Yes, scrub all areas. It helps exfoliate the skin in order for it to be ultra clean (and smooth). A soaped up washcloth, loofah, or exfoliating scrub always helps! Use some elbow grease guys. Water alone does not clean all things.
I have had gentleman take a shower, and it is still smelly. Then they dont understand why I wont go there. Yuck!
When gentleman are ultra clean, boy do they get more of what I like to do! Everywhere.
Have a good day all!
Well said VOP.
But, let's not forget that hygeine as well as grooming are both important. And that goes both ways. Ladies, if you enjoy receiving oral stimulation - then please - if you shave; then shave and if you trim; then trim. I promise to not give you abrasions from stubble and to be freshly pruned, but I'd like to hope that all ladies remember that a scratchy kitty can be unpleasant to us as well. As for aroma's, well, you know.
VOH
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who has sidestepped this client. I had thought of telling him myself until I was told, by another provider who has seen him, that the discussion would be moot.
I do feel badly for the gent; however, having a session with someone whose scent will merge with mine and be difficult to remove from my body is not high on my priority list. I just made the decision not to see him then or in the future.
Just my dime,
Jazz