since there seem to be a number of posts on this all of a sudden it makes sense to put the record straight.
1) very few if any reviews are doctored for money or services here on TER. Feel free to match mine up vs all other reviews. In general my review was strictly on par or even below. Will use Molly Rose...I raved about her, and my "10,10" was bumped down {rightfully so} to a 9,10. She gets consistantly stellar reviews to this day.
VIP rates historically are a function of quantity and "safety" and have been offered by both indies and agencies for years....and will continue to be...
They simply were and still are good business. Seperate from the public perspection all you need to do to get those significant discounts is become a good customer.
There is no valid reason to give a VIP rate to someone you dont know or see regularly....on the flip side if after reasonable patronage your not getting a better rate then i'd move along (if that aspect is important to you).
Discounts are a way of life in most businesses. They are not unethical or incorrect in any way. At the same time no one individual is "entitled" to them. Phoenix has become a resort market with very high rack pricing....if your a tourist thats your reality. If your local or a frequent visitor then thats simply not the case.
Recognize that its up to you to be polite & respectul and build a known identity. Also recognize that you may or may not "qualify" for any reason with any one provider or entity...and that each "business" has every right to control its offerings. Simply decide and move on. Since i'vew gone back "undeground" my average price per session has gone down and quality is equal or even higher.
Plenty of "people" want your business....without publicity or reviews (in my case at least). Yes there is a party line and you will hear the word NO....simply make the choice thats right for you....and let them make the choice that works for them. In the end the only one who spends your money is you.
VIP privelages are simply a sign of "respect"....nothing more or less. When you feel you've reached a point that you have earned them...just ask. A no is nothing other then an indication that the other party doesnt value your business as much as you think they do...
Hacker, darling, the rating system is meaningless. In a statistical sense, there is not enough variance in the scores to make them significance; particularly if you consider the huge value of N. Contact a university if you’d like and have someone in the social sciences department run an analysis of variance. You will see what I mean.
If reviews have any redeeming feature it lies in their advertising value, the fact that many clients find them fun to write and read; and, let’s not forget that they make this web site an extremely profitable venture…
And, Hacker, sweetheart, please remember that this is a business with a distinctly misogynistic bent.
For the provider, it is ALL about money and retention and not getting on the bad side of the man.
For the provider, VIPs are a nice, profitable safety net; but, in reality, a hobbyist attains this status by being boring and harmless and not too demanding. No matter what one believes and no matter what is said, by the time an escort has been in the business for a few years, she is sick and tired of *ucking.
If one sees any score of 5 or 6 or even 7, it is usually indicative of extremely bad service, or some horrible, low-life, sleazebag, underhanded business shenanigans by the multiple parties involved--who reap undeserved and unearned benifits and profits from the labor of others.
perhaps is it a show of "disrespect" for the local gentry, who support them year round, for the girls and agencies to charge them the same high prices as bouncing conventioneers and intermittent visitors to our city.
that get VIP rates (and deservedly so). There are also lots of locals who dont (and probably shouldnt).
What facinates me is the discrepancy between local Phoenix "rack" and traveling "rack" rates. I'll give you two historical examples. AZM's standard travel rate to the twin cities was $300 when there local rate was higher. On the indie side Kara (hott) recently traveled to Dallas at a $300 travel rate while she advertised a higher "local special".
A VIP rate is a special rate....there is no entitlement per se. When you actually charge less for a more expensive undertaking your sending a clear message on just hoe little you value your local established clientel. These arent special rates....imagine going to the sheraton and paying $400 for a top room....and then watching the guy behind you get the same room for $300. You ask why he got the $300 rate and they tell you because he's from out of state...how would you feel?
We used to have a strong voice that would call out this type of garbage and it truthfully did help keep things in line. Amazing how things have changed since "they" went to the recieving end of the cash register. Prices have almost doubled here with more and more prices climbing to $400 or even $500. Now the normal voices you see here dont care...like me they dont pay that rate. But do you think that this would continue if the "rank and file" simply decided not to pay the bill for someone elses fun.
So in the end its a simple decision. either get ready for a $500 rack rate next year or set a "cap" and stick with it. They know they need you more then you need them...do you?
Some very valid points there AZ... But I for one would never ask a woman for a discount period!... The offer needs to come from them... It is their choice to make those wise or unwise buisness decisions.. IMHO
My current ATF spoils the shit out of me so I know what I say!! Wished I could say who it is darn TER anyway...
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