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Thanks Stacie...
Stacie Lynn See my TER Reviews 1548 reads
posted
1 / 32

My latest review from ec9*** is fake. Although a very complimentary review, the meeting never took place. I've tried to have it removed and have followed the instructions from admin to PM asking for proof. But they "believe he will get back to me" with proof of the appt. Yea right. Obviously it's someone seeking free VIP or LE trying to gain access & credibility from writing reviews. Not sure why they allow this type of behavior but its not right & imo not safe. I screen well and know who I see and am 1000% sure I have not seen this person. So be careful ladies and screen hard.

tvlaw 58 Reviews 896 reads
posted
2 / 32

Here we go again! Another fake imposter or LE attempting to gain information or a cheap broke guy trying for a free VIP. I hope the Board will take notice and diligently extract these people from thwarting all of peaceful enjoyment of this site.  Some people may elect to stop participating if this bad element is not dissuaded from posting on TER.

akiya See my TER Reviews 806 reads
posted
3 / 32

I hope it gets removed soon. We can add his name to the ever-growing list of fake reviewers. Gingrluvr, madaug, hrich77 (this one wrote me a fake review but it was removed same day it posted, per my request- and it was a 9/10!) are all fake reviewers as well. Their reasons are unknown. They may very well be harmless and are trying to get free VIP, but I'm not taking any chances. I commend you for disputing a complimentary review; lots of girls wouldn't. I think some of these guys assume we have a revolving door and won't remember if we saw them or not. Um, wrong!

VanNess 28 Reviews 825 reads
posted
4 / 32

My reviews of Stacie and Akiya are the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.  Well, as true as my fantasies can be. And if you read them, you know they were great fantasies.  Thanks, ladies!

Fake reviews are garbage, and my feeling is TER should refocus a little of their 1,000,000 review energy on setting up a more effective system of weeding out fake reviews.  
Posted By: akiya
I hope it gets removed soon. We can add his name to the ever-growing list of fake reviewers. Gingrluvr, madaug, hrich77 (this one wrote me a fake review but it was removed same day it posted, per my request- and it was a 9/10!) are all fake reviewers as well. Their reasons are unknown. They may very well be harmless and are trying to get free VIP, but I'm not taking any chances. I commend you for disputing a complimentary review; lots of girls wouldn't. I think some of these guys assume we have a revolving door and won't remember if we saw them or not. Um, wrong!

purefun2us 100 Reviews 696 reads
posted
5 / 32

He would have  had an amazing time. I know I did.....

akiya See my TER Reviews 687 reads
posted
7 / 32

Us ladies have been trying to figure out a way to propose an effective way to weed out the fake reviews. It's so complicated since it's a whole lot of he-say, she-say. Who's telling the truth? We came up with a suggestion: When guys submit a review, they'd have to also include the date/time of when the supposed meeting took place, and where. This information would not appear in the review, it would be visible to admin only. A guy writing a fake review would have to pick a date/time/place out of his ass and hope it sticks (excuse my language lol). A lady might be able to prove she was elsewhere at that date/time, and voila..fake review removed! I'd love to hear other suggestions!

By the way, I'm about to email you right now :)

AZ Misty See my TER Reviews 707 reads
posted
8 / 32

I have had a number of good reviews removed because the gentleman was called out and admitted that he "fudged" the date of our encounter.

Some have been months old but even had one be well over a year since we met.

So VanNess what do YOU say about that? Sound familiar?

sedonaw See my TER Reviews 732 reads
posted
9 / 32

Easy ones to remember, and a few different ones so that they are not all the same.  Maybe even one that corresponds with the month like October "pumpkin pie".

Posted By: akiya
Us ladies have been trying to figure out a way to propose an effective way to weed out the fake reviews. It's so complicated since it's a whole lot of he-say, she-say. Who's telling the truth? We came up with a suggestion: When guys submit a review, they'd have to also include the date/time of when the supposed meeting took place, and where. This information would not appear in the review, it would be visible to admin only. A guy writing a fake review would have to pick a date/time/place out of his ass and hope it sticks (excuse my language lol). A lady might be able to prove she was elsewhere at that date/time, and voila..fake review removed! I'd love to hear other suggestions!  
   
 By the way, I'm about to email you right now :)

sedonaw See my TER Reviews 663 reads
posted
10 / 32

TER would have to set a secret word feature that you can change as you change your password.  The reviewer would have to give a current review of you if you change your secret word frequently.

cdfix 66 Reviews 670 reads
posted
11 / 32

Unfortunately, TER Admin’s new position is requiring The Ladies to prove a Negative. In other words they (Admin) are asking The Ladies to prove they did NOT see The Reviewer. Impossible and NOT fair to The Ladies!

This needs to be fixed and I for one will NOT Renew my VIP Membership as TER Admin is unrealistic in their approach to this and other areas

tvlaw 58 Reviews 610 reads
posted
12 / 32

A number that identifies the client may be good...

arizbob 19 Reviews 554 reads
posted
13 / 32

But a " We met" password would go a long way on preventing fake reviews. But there are a lot of women not active on the boards or very new and wouldn't be member of TER and would not have a password. Also if a lady thought she might get a bad review she could with hold or give a fake password.  But the password is not a bad idea for the board ladies.

SummerGoddess See my TER Reviews 599 reads
posted
14 / 32

Posted By: cdfix
Unfortunately, TER Admin’s new position is requiring The Ladies to prove a Negative. In other words they (Admin) are asking The Ladies to prove they did NOT see The Reviewer. Impossible and NOT fair to The Ladies!  
   
 This needs to be fixed and I for one will NOT Renew my VIP Membership as TER Admin is unrealistic in their approach to this and other areas.  
 
Thank you for saying this. As I was reading through this thread I was thinking to myself, there must be some way to verify the legitimacy of a review. I mean, I completely understand that it already takes several days and intense scrutiny to get a review posted on TER but, at the end of the day, the process still isn't infallible.  

I would really love the ability to approve reviews posted of me, quite honestly. There have been times when gents have written about things that simply didn't take place because I would never allow it (i.e. jizzing all over my a**hole -- [it's somewhere on the second page of my reviews]) ;) ...but it probably happened in their imagination in the midst of our encounter so I certainly don't fault the author in those instances. Still, I feel strongly that each and every one of my ideal and favorite gents would agree that they would only want to write about what I feel comfortable with. And I would easily be able to tell if a review was bogus, but it helps that I am so low-volume, so it is easy for me to remember them all.  

The obvious problem with this method is that it undermines the purpose of the review system, which is to report honestly about your encounter. If they had to run every review by the lady then most ladies would only approve reviews that gave them good ratings and were flattering. And then all the reviews would lose their legitimacy. But, the way it's done now places a lot of trust in the reviewers, thus the problem we are facing now. I wonder if there is a middle ground, because this current system is making this a more dangerous place to play.

I personally haven't had any fake reviews posted of me. I obsessively read them as they get posted (some of my regulars always let me know when they show up -- thanks guys!) ;) and I always trace them back to a specific encounter, it's not hard to do. I never did this specifically to identify fake reviews, but only because I felt the compulsion to do so, lol! Plus I enjoy reading them and reliving the encounter through your eyes, it's really erotic. ;)

That's my two cents... have a good day guys! Xoxo!

-Summer Goddess

gymratguy 41 Reviews 601 reads
posted
15 / 32

as long as TER is giving free VIP's with a certain amount of reviews fake reviews will happen. It's the nature of the beast...

SummerGoddess See my TER Reviews 722 reads
posted
16 / 32

Posted By: gymratguy
as long as TER is giving free VIP's with a certain amount of reviews fake reviews will happen. It's the nature of the beast...
I see, that makes sense. Well, if everyone had to pay and there was no free VIP I wonder how that would change things. My biggest concern is not guys faking reviews to get a free membership, but the ones doing it with malicious intent, such as predators and LE.  

Still, I don't rely on reviews alone to verify someone for this and other reasons. I always contact the ladies directly, as it should be done in order to really use the system.

Xoxo!
-Summer Goddess

DJ1985 21 Reviews 550 reads
posted
17 / 32

Being that this is first and formost a review site, free VIP days are seen as encouragement to write reviews. Without the free VIP days many guys wouldn't write reviews, greatly reduce the usefullness of TER. A constant flow of new reviews is the main thing that keeps the paying members paying to fund the site. So as long as there is free VIP for writing reviews there will be a certain number of fake reviews, but without free VIP the site wont work nearly as well. Your concerns are very valid but unfortunatly it's the nature of the beast.

glowerlord 7 Reviews 934 reads
posted
18 / 32

...That when reviews are "real" that they can be a record of criminal activity?
...That if a site works to verify and prove that reviews are real, they can no longer claim "fantasy" "entertainment" and "user content", placing themselves in the realm of potentially being an enterprise that facilitates crime?
...That the mere fact that CL, BP, and most review board have not yet been taken down by governments, doesn't mean that there aren't well funded agencies constantly trying.
... That the truth is that reviews have been used in criminal prosecutions.

Investigations into can go for years and years, and if cases cannot be brought LE will work with lawmakers to write new laws to be able to use information that was previously not prosecutable, now valuable as the basis of prosecution. There are major societal forces pushing against this lifestyle all over the world. Things are not progressing and become more free, they are becoming more oppressive. This used to be somewhat underground. Get out there and use google and you will see what is going on.

This lifestyle isn't legal, this isn't YELP and you can't get a GROUPON. Sites are being monitored and infiltrated. Have you every considered that fake reviews are part of investigations where undercover credibility is being built?

All that aside, everyone knows that reviews are of limited value anyway. There are problem with consumer reviews as a phenomenon in general, being reliable. You simply can't trust what people write online. People are fucked up and say things that are untrue, filtered or exaggerated for all sorts of reasons.  

And nothing turns men into whiny, lying, vindictive little bitches faster than not getting their way sexually. Hey it's true and it needed to be said. So I said it.

Here's some info from Science Daily about problem with reviews in general. Same principles apply here.

Immediacy of Language Influences Credibility of Online Consumer Reviews

Oct. 25, 2013 — Many companies are increasingly confused and upset about how to deal with negative online consumer reviews, says Zoey Chen of Georgia Tech Scheller College of Business. One way to overcome consumers' over-reliance on negative word of mouth would be to encourage satisfied customers to include language indicating that they wrote their reviews soon after product/service consumption, according to Chen's research.

In her study, recently published in the Journal of Marketing Research, she found that temporal cues as "this morning" or "I just got back from the best lunch" can boost the value of positive critiques.

"Prior research shows that positive online reviews are less valued than negative reviews," explains Chen, a fifth-year doctoral student in marketing at Georgia Tech Scheller College of Business, who-authored the study with Nicholas Lurie, an associate professor of marketing at the University of Connecticut.

Chen notes that positive reviews could be considered less informative than negative ones because the writers might be perceived as bragging about the good decisions they make in their lives.

"Their motivation for writing might be self-enhancement, signaling their expertise," she says. "But negative reviews are generally seen as reflecting more about the product or service than the lifestyle choices of the writer. Therefore, they tend to be seen as more credible.

"If people learn that you just went to an establishment and had a positive experience, they might think it's more about the experience than the individual," Chen says.

Chen and Lurie, who examined more than 65,000 restaurant reviews on Yelp and conducted lab reviews, conversely found that temporal cues don't have a significant effect on how a negative review is perceived

rorqual 2 Reviews 805 reads
posted
19 / 32

Any review system is inherently flawed as it is totally subjective. Whether it is music, film, or the escort business if you only consider one person's opinion you will get a skewed view. I sympathize with the ladies as I would hate to read reviews of me after each day's work. Ladies keep up the good work and gents look at the reviews as a whole.

DAVEPHX 670 reads
posted
20 / 32

Posted By: rorqual
Any review system is inherently flawed as it is totally subjective. Whether it is music, film, .
But in the film and music industry it isn't used by LE that could potentially results in decades prison terms especially if tied to a site.

DAVEPHX 806 reads
posted
21 / 32

Posted By: glowerlord
...That when reviews are "real" that they can be a record of criminal activity?  
 ...That if a site works to verify and prove that reviews are real, they can no longer claim "fantasy" "entertainment" and "user content", placing themselves in the realm of potentially being an enterprise that facilitates crime?  
 ...That the mere fact that CL, BP, and most review board have not yet been taken down by governments, doesn't mean that there aren't well funded agencies constantly trying.  
 ... That the truth is that reviews have been used in criminal prosecutions.  
   
 Investigations into can go for years and years, and if cases cannot be brought LE will work with lawmakers to write new laws to be able to use information that was previously not prosecutable, now valuable as the basis of prosecution. There are major societal forces pushing against this lifestyle all over the world. Things are not progressing and become more free, they are becoming more oppressive. This used to be somewhat underground. Get out there and use google and you will see what is going on.  
   
 This lifestyle isn't legal, this isn't YELP and you can't get a GROUPON. Sites are being monitored and infiltrated. Have you every considered that fake reviews are part of investigations where undercover credibility is being built?  
 
Very well said and a bunch of boards have been taken over by the FBI and owners and control people face decades in prison.   BP and CL legal argument is only because they have no control what is posted.  Once you get involved in what is posted it crosses the line to a criminal enterprise if for what is illegal.  

The "lifestyle" being attacked in my view is mostly because of the lies about it being all about under age and trafficking and the huge money making machine of the "rescue" industry.   I bet overall if the question was do we want to spend money going after in private consenting adult prostitution the answer would be no.   Make it illegal to have non-protected prostitution and I believe a referendum like SWOP tried in Berkeley would censused.  SWOP failed miserably only in my view because they were trying to stop enforcement of street hookers - almost zero public support for that but would be if limited to in private consensual, condom required prostitution.

gymratguy 41 Reviews 601 reads
posted
22 / 32

Decades...? come on.....

AZartguy 85 Reviews 608 reads
posted
23 / 32

You really have to consider that ALL reviews should be taken with a grain of salt.  
You have to research and assess, maybe from more than one site, and then make your decision based on your comfort level.

Now, specifically regarding the hobby - you REALLY have to take these reviews with a grain of salt. You have to consider most of them to be exaggerated and delusional - I really doubt the average session here results in the lady "really loving it" and having 5 orgasms or that every dude here is hung like a horse, as they usually claim... usually if you have to announce what a stud you are - you probably aren't.

So you look for a pattern, here and other places, check out provider websites and ads if available, and then the best you can hope for is to determine that the lady is 'legit'. Maybe you can get a feel for what the session might include - but that is it. There are no guarantees.  

I think is good to point out fakes when possible - but even that should be taken with a grain of salt.  
Generally, I think taking these sites too seriously and whining about anything related to the hobby is a little silly.

Just MHO.

QueenBia See my TER Reviews 639 reads
posted
24 / 32

You may need to be patient it can take up to a week to take down.  TER, likes to give the guys seeking free VIP status time to respond if he does not respond they know he is a Joe Blow liar.  Sorry, but it happens to the best of us sucks regardless.

DAVEPHX 761 reads
posted
25 / 32

Posted By: gymratguy
Decades...? come on.....
The Temple gals (and some massage I believe) are threaten with in one case 40 years in prison if they don't take the deal.  In fact in a plea conference before the judge he layed this out.  Criminal enterprise is up to 10 years plus $150k fine +85% surcharge + $20.   Then they layer on many money laundering felonies when find customer records and who turned in cash.  Or whoever makes a bank deposit.  All related to alleged prostitution  

But sugar daddies, and all the other gimmicks are not being sought, the more honest sex workers without the dating games have all the risk.

The plea deals are plea to a felony 6 - be a life time felon record and get 6-12 months probation instead of potential prison if found guilty at trial.

In my non-lawyer view I can't imagine a judge even if lost at trial imposing prison at least for the non -owners.  In various cases owners/photographer/frequent client testing guys/etc have gone to prison but no just worker gals.

The most recent massage parlor owner got as I recall 1-2 years in prison on a plea deal and sadly committed suicide just before sentencing.  

All are in private consenting adults, nothing to do with underaged or trafficking, simply criminal enterprise prostitution cases our deal County Attorney is pressing to stamp out the dangerous outcalls and massage.  

The decades I doubt but that is the threat.  It is all up  to the judge to run the many piled on felonies as concurrent or consecutive which is how you got in one case to potentially 40 years in prison.

Stacie Lynn See my TER Reviews 646 reads
posted
26 / 32

I agree with most of your post except for the last part. I wasn't whining at all. Not my style. I was warning not whining. Big difference. I won't reiterate my concerns as to why I started this thread. But my concerns are valid, serious & shouldn't be taken with a grain of salt. I posted because I'm sick of fake reviews. We hear about them a lot & everyone should be aware of the phonies.

gymratguy 41 Reviews 639 reads
posted
27 / 32

I'm no expert and do not profess to be but the cases you site are large cases, with many people and in most cases store fronts that are acting as legitimate businesses.

The girls on here while many do actively advertise, they work from home, sort of fly UTR and are not brazenly waving their professional in peoples faces.

I think you are comparing apples and oranges; I personally do not have any sympathy for the Temple people, the Studio people or massage parlor people.  I would never go to a place like that and prefer classy women that work from home or will come to me.

I'm looking for total interaction not just getting my rocks off.

AZartguy 85 Reviews 621 reads
posted
28 / 32

Stacie - I did not mean you... just in general, like I said - it is good to point out when possible - I think it does actually mean more coming from the ladies.

rorqual 2 Reviews 532 reads
posted
29 / 32

Good point made by Dave and Glow above. I have not submitted a review since the DD bust. I do enjoy reading them. Just for fun of course, and not with the intent of engaging in an illegal activity.

Stacie Lynn See my TER Reviews 610 reads
posted
30 / 32

Azart- please excuse me, I thought you were referring to me since I started the thread about the fake review. My apologies. Xoxo

Posted By: AZartguy
Stacie - I did not mean you... just in general, like I said - it is good to point out when possible - I think it does actually mean more coming from the ladies.

DAVEPHX 515 reads
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31 / 32

Posted By: gymratguy
I personally do not have any sympathy for the Temple people, the Studio people or massage parlor people.  I would never go to a place like that and prefer classy women that work from home or will come to me.  
 I'm looking for total interaction not just getting my rocks off.
Actually the Temple was not primarily that but I'm not into all the deep breathing or Chakra Hindu ideas.

But your right the indie companion with no driver, no appt setter etc., just faces 15 days in jail on 1st offense.  But there are gals active here, probably reading this that have been in Tent City and not fun. Some only due to ads with GFE or other bad words since that is deemed solicitation.. or escorting without a license is common and almost impossible to defend against. But at least it isn't a felony of your an "enterprise" of two or more people.

ITAdmin 8 Reviews 660 reads
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