I dated 3 strippers.... Phx, Reno, & Seattle at different times. You gotta know going in its a 30 day at max experience and your going to hear all kinds of stories to wring out the last $$$$ drop.... In the meantime its a blast but it gets old quick. They usually are bi polar, skitzo, drugies, or in desperate need of some quick cash. You can't take it as serious and don't be naive. Play and pay but don't be stupid and enjoy the short fun ride. They don't love you - might possibly like you - but that's the limit. Caveat Emptor....
I'd like some thoughts on this one.
It's not exactly shocking to hear that strippers will sometimes try to scam you. I'm going to leave out any names and even the name of the club in this thread because they aren't relevant, and I don't want to cause hassles for anyone.
Here's the situation.
I go to a strip bar whenever I can sneak away. I generally call ahead to make sure my favorite dancer is working. We've gotten to know each other a bit in the last few months, and she's made some pretty good bank off of me.
Last Saturday, I went in and found her there. She came running up and gave me a hug. She wasn't on the clock yet, so we had some drinks and talked for an hour or so. Finally she danced for me, but she had just had surgery, so I told her I'll pay her, but she should just relax and sit with me.
Then she says she'd like to see me outside of the club.
Now, I'm 49 years old and I am nothing like "hot." I don't know that anyone would have used that adjective 30 years ago to describe me, but they certainly wouldn't now. So, this is very odd. There's really nothing for her to gain.
Not being dead yet, I said I would love that. We planned to go to The Melting Pot on Wednesday. On Tuesday, I call her to work out the arrangements, but, shockingly enough, I get no answer. Who would have thought?
So, I assume she's blowing me off, and I move on back to reality. But 11:30 she calls me. She's in Vegas, she says. One of her friends out there died of an overdose. She went for the funeral. She feels really bad, she really really wants to see me, can we do it Thursday?
Of course, I'm good with that.
And, obviously, I hear nothing from her for quite some time on Wednesday, until, finally, she calls me to tell me that now she is in California. Some friend of hers evidently gave a guy the key to her (my stripper friend)'s room. The guy goes in, rapes her, and then she (the stripper) goes to California. She can't talk, though, because she is losing service. So, now everything is done by text and email.
She needs me to send her money to get back. (We all knew THIS was coming, right?)
She sends me account numbers for wires, and for electronic.
I tell her I can't make that work. If she would like to tell me her bank, I can go in and make a deposit for her, but she tells me she doesn't have her card with her. The money needs to go to her friend's account.
She sent me emails with one last name, and a Facebook message with another last name. The profile picture on the FB account looks only vaguely like her.
So... obviously I'm being scammed.
But my question is, how is she coming out ahead having me put money in someone else's account? No, I'm not doing that, obviously.
Also, why not just take me for what she can when she's at the club? How does this help?
Those smarter than I might have some good thoughts about this, and I would like to hear them. Thanks folks.
I am thinking that the persons name she gave you to send money to is probably a boyfriend or somebody she trusts enough to give her the money once you send it to them. Or she owes this other person money and wants you to pay off her obligation. Don't feel bad as we get older most of us fall for a pretty face and nice personality. I've been duped more than once but have been rewarded many more times than not for helping someone in need. So I know where your coming from.
If you were to put some money in a friends account once, you would probably put more in a second time. The requests would keep coming until you stopped 'helping' her. You'd better be careful with her in the future!
why don't ya play it out and keep us informed along the way!
This will be a real nail biter as to how it ends up! LOL
and tell her to enjoy herself. LOL
Don't do it been there done that and learned the hard way.
Of course the mindset is that if you fall for a story once...you'll fall for it again and send more.
That's how she benefits over hitting you up at the club once.
The other issue is...have you sent or received a bank transfer? There's info in the confirmation that can be used to find out who you are.
Take that info and put it into something like spokeo....and everything there is to be known is found out about you.
Now the hook is set...and you're screwed.
I still don't see the attraction of strip clubs...unless you go there to run the mind-fuck as opposed to being the victim of it.....but that's just me.
Thank you for the advice and the thoughts. I knew better, of course, but I wanted to understand a little better what was going on. Obviously I didn't wire any money... and I won't. I just wanted to understand how this scam works, and I've heard some good explanations.
Like so many of us, I too often think with my smaller head. It's really incredible how stupid a reasonably intelligent man can be made by a very pretty face and a good story.
She'll be back next week, now, she says. For anyone who is interested, I'll let you know the outcome.
But, most importantly, thank you very much, all who posted, for helping me to think more clearly and to understand what is going on. It's one of the useful functions of TER.
Thanks again.
you are a mark, and you will never be more than that.
Stripping=extracting cash from your mark.
If you like strippers, as I do, you have to set up a SugarDaddy relationship. You can only do that on *your terms* and when you are in charge.
You can take her out, dinner & drinks, have some laughs, some BCD fun, and you shouldn't have to pay more that $300-$400 for a whole night. If she moves on to being a provider, you will lose your Sugarbaby.
Strip clubs are a great place to meet fun young women who love to have a good time, who are sexual, and have to make a lot of money to support their loser hot-stud boyfriends.
You'll also find (with the right ones) that they will get to where they really like your company, IF you treat them with class, because in my experience many of them have never had *any* guy treat them as a mature man would. They love it.
They are not going to fall in love with you, but you dont want that, no matter how hot she is anyway. They are not going to leave the BF either. But since many young strippers work the floor on nights where after house fees and tips outs, they go home with $50 bucks or so, they will look at your relationship as a way to make as much at the take home on good night, and not have to work for it.
My current fav is 24yo 5'7" 125 lb B-cup stunning sweetheart, single mom, who loves tequila, beer, sushi, heavy metal and kissing. We go out (not on a Fri or Sat) about 7, go get some dinner, shoot pool, drinks, a few laughs, listen to some music and go back to my hotel room abound midnight. I take her home around 3. The night only costs $200 for everything. I usually give her a gift of $300 and she is absolutely thrilled.
8 hours of fun everything for $500.
We talk and text all the time and there is no such thing as off-the-clock or on-the-clock.
It's a great arrangement.
I met her at a club on a slow night, she asked me for a lapdance. I told her no but asked about her night and if she wanted a drink and to go have a smoke. She said yes and we worked it out from there.
We get a lot of looks when we go out in public. I'm older than you, and not handsome. But I am not a mark, and she needs a SugarDaddy.
You will not be surprised to learn it crashed and burned.
I took her out to The Melting Pot, and spent $250 for the Ultimate Romance Package. It was great. We had a nice time.
She said, however, that she had been raped in Vegas, so she wasn't comfortable about anyone touching her. I didn't.
She also needed to pay her friends back for the plane ticket to get back home, and I gave her $250 for that.
We texted as couple of days. She said she loved me. Wanted to go out again. And, since there is nothing easier to believe than what one WANTS to believe, I bought it.
But, she never called when she said she would, never even replied to texts. I told her I was having difficulty in trusting her in a couple of texts to which I received no reply.
I went in to see her. She didn't dance for me. She told me she hadn't gotten any texts from me (though we're both Verizon and it told me when she received them), but she didn't like being "second guessed." And we haven't talked since then.
Though she SWORE she would give me back my $250, I know I'll never see that again, either.
So... I screwed this one up as badly as it could have been.
On the other hand, I had a gorgeous young babe texting me, calling me, and saying she loved me for a few days, and that was nice.
Oh well. Live and learn.
I dated 3 strippers.... Phx, Reno, & Seattle at different times. You gotta know going in its a 30 day at max experience and your going to hear all kinds of stories to wring out the last $$$$ drop.... In the meantime its a blast but it gets old quick. They usually are bi polar, skitzo, drugies, or in desperate need of some quick cash. You can't take it as serious and don't be naive. Play and pay but don't be stupid and enjoy the short fun ride. They don't love you - might possibly like you - but that's the limit. Caveat Emptor....