There seems to be a steady stream of people who are out to badmouth others in this business for whatever pitiful reason they may try to pass off as good information to others, and that's a shame. Perhaps it's lack of self-confidence in themselves, the need to ruin other's businesses (or attempting to ruin someone's business), or to have fun gossiping about someone at his/her expense, whatever. This definitely shows an extreme lack of class. Also, it's not using common sense, since some of us are friends with people in the community and the word always gets back to us. And . . . you know who you are!
I'm not writing this to name who it is, but to state on this board that rumors (and that's all they are) do get back to some of us and that just makes the gossipers look pitiful in our eyes and extremely low-class. I am more professional than that and would never say anything bad about another provider to a client (no matter what I've heard through the grapevine, and the grapevine is a dangerous root to climb).
Thank goodness my regulars know what type of person I am and avoid others who cannot resist this sort of evil temptation.
Whatever a friend tells me (whether it's a client or a provider) it stays with me. I'm not even going to tell you who informed me of this scandelous behavior. Ladies and gentlemen, you know who you are, and you are guilty of the lowest form of class there is: No class! You cannot buy class, nor intelligence, nor a good heart. Some of us are born with displaying humanity to others, the sort of intelligence way past a college degree (and I have two of those), and are innocent of the backchanneling going on by some people who are obviously bored and don't have anything better to do than to read and post on the boards.
I heard through some very concerned hobbyists that my name was mentioned as being part of a "group" of women who are out to vandalize the names of some gentlemen in the Phoenix community. From what I've read recently on the Provider Board that is simply not true. It's sad to say that some of these women who thrive on gossip -- whether it's true or not -- have approched me to be their friend and to go out with them. They have acted like they respect me and have tried to convince me to be their friend. Thank goodness I haven't met them in person, nor do I care to now. I have learned to stay out of the lime light.
Actually, I have nothing against anyone in this community. In fact, I only know a few people by name, nor do I care to socialize at the Meet and Greets for this very reason: the "sweet to your face and backstab you when you're gone" attitudes. Sweet Sarah said it best in her post a few threads down.
When a provider or hobbyist says something funny on the board, I may respond to them with humorous banter, and I don't know them. Lastly, I do not know anyone other than Swedish Anna and Wild West Kelly. Does that make me part of a "group?" I should think not. I don't even post on the Provider's Board -- maybe twice since it's been up and only to respond with a "ROFLMAO" response.
I think we all need to check ourselves and stop associating some of us with a "group." Personally, I don't care if there is a group of women who dislike Phoenix men or men who are able to get discounts from some women. It's none of my business. You know what? I am a respected provider that has been here longer than most of the Phoenix crowd and make it a habit not to attend Meet and Greets, play gossip with the providers on the phone (which most try to do with me when I simply call for a reference -- that's why I prefer emailing them). Nor do I condone such behavior from clients/friends that I see and -- believe me -- they will tell you I stop them in their tracks if they start to bring up TER people, etc.
Why can't we just have fun and be more accepting of other's businesses. This is a free market. I don't put other providers down because their donation may be $500, nor do I criticize anyone who is slightly less expensive (like me) because they don't need the money that badly. Is giving a valuable client/friend a freebie or a discount because it's his birthday wrong? No, but that's no one's business. Is it wrong for a group of guys to pay only $200 to $250 for a service? Who cares? Everyone needs to mind their own business and stop the haggling and criticizing on this board. To those who do this: You should be ashamed of yourselves. And . . . the next time certain providers try to call me and gossip and "be my friend" please don't. I don't want to hear it. I'm very happy with my life, my finances, my looks and my attitude. I think some need to go to charm school. Personally, I don't wish to associate with people who enjoy other people's miseries. You won't see my posting here for awhile.
Peace & hugs,
Ciara
-- Modified on 3/24/2008 5:40:11 PM
This board needs some one like you to keep us in line.
This board is suppose to help hobbyist and providers and if the good ones like you leave the BS will continue.
I must agree.... I hardly ever post here, but i must admit you said it well Ciara... What is the drama always about anyway... who did what to who and when. He said, She said.... OMG.. enough already... it is like watching a high school fight... We all do need to get along... We all have feelings.. Every one should work together... Safety is always key... There are many great people in the community...
xoxox
Tobie
These people need to get a life....I have better things to do than talk and gossip about others.
I need to do that overnight and get in the hot tub and that king size bed with you, baby!
Talk about a once in a lifetime.....yehhhh...hawwww!
Love you Baby!
Kelly
-- Modified on 3/25/2008 11:19:40 AM
Dam, you're getting all of us hot, girl
you and Ciara are the best good naughty girls!
love ya both
Terri
this sounds so like high school crap, are we not adults now? The men don't want to hear gossip and eventually you'll be finding yourself alone
Why can't everyone just get along....if you don't like someone just keep it to yourself.
Sorry Ciara this childish behavior is happening maybe outing is a solution to this kind of behavior and keep others from it.
Come on people lets all get along and start showing some class....Plenty of business to go around.
Ter
Thank you Ciara! As a recipient of a great deal of the recent BS from these people I can tell you it is very disconcerting especially when you are accused of physically threatening people, sending out "goons" and extortion.
Anyone who wishes to read my reply to today's attack on some "list" may ready my public reply on my blog linked below.
On that note I will conclude my ever discussing such activity here on TER.
Nite all! I look forward to hanging with anyone participating in the Phoenix Forum later this week!!
mean people suck and for some reason they want everyone else to be mean and low spirited as they are.
I personally wish everyone were as nice as you ciara. i hope you wont let this clique affect you they arent worthy of your attention.
and a figment of someone's over zealous imagination.
nobody makes or breaks anyone.. we do that ourselves... someone who is intent on destroying someone else is only going to destroy themselves.. its silly and pathetic that people even try..
i think for myself, i work for myself, i dont need anyone to agree with me, follow me, or lead me. my actions are my own and no one else's.
seriously people need to get a life if they think this board is drama .. i really see very little actual action occurring here and certainly nothing interesting enough to gossip about.. mostly there is just suspicions, theories, insinuations, and accusations that are rarely presented with any solid proof... so many people seem to think they are a target or they claim they were a target however, i rarely see anyone actually shoot and when i do, the shooter is normally the person who claims they are being targeted.
maybe people just need something to talk about
really how can a group of guys get their names vandalized when they are only known by their hobby handle ? does a hobby handle have value ?
-- Modified on 3/25/2008 2:40:34 AM
I do think there is a lot of drama on this board. And . . . "suspicions, theories, insinuations and accusations that are rarely presented with any solid proof" is drama, my dear. But thank you for your opinion. I've always appreciated many of the posters on this board but it's tiring to see bantering that isn't going anywhere. Yes, we need to support each other but when I mean "support", I don't mean someone coming to someone's aid who is just posting an ad. If the lady is good and respected she doesn't need backup. It's just an ad. Now someone who is innocently posting on something interesting (without malice) that is being bashed needs support.
Instead of accusations (which seem to be enough these days for CSpan), I enjoy seeing jokes, someone's humane story, people who advertise, flirtateous bantering, and a good debate on a worthy topic. Over and out! 
Hugs,
Ciara
-- Modified on 3/25/2008 12:03:24 PM
Nicely stated Ciara. Some people have waaaaaaaay too much time on their hands and apparently nothing better to do with that time.
-- Modified on 3/25/2008 10:52:28 AM
-- Modified on 3/27/2008 10:01:14 AM
best in a long time. Alot of energy gets wasted on some of these threads that could be best spent somewhere else and more productive.
People form factions as a matter of course. Why? I don't know, and I don't think they know either.
One can't expect the hobby to be different, except that sex and money are also involved, so it's going to be more intense. Even if neither are immediately at stake, they're still there to activate some madness.
You're sweet, beautiful and smart, which is all the better reason to do your best to stay out of it. You will never have anything to gain from any of it.
I like the idea of M&G; in most places, I think they are good-- on the balance.
