When I first started I choose not to have reviews, so they remove them.

NOT to post reviews. Just seems a bit odd to me. To me, it is like a movie. Movie critics check out a flick and post their opinions in the paper. The movie producer can't tell the paper not to post the reviews. What the heck is TER for? Just a personal observation/opinion.

This is a review board, so why if you want to participate on the board or as far as that goes a provder would you not have any reviews posted.

Imagine that a provider working and managing with out the assistance of TER.  Kind of makes you wonder what we all did thousands of years before TER came into existance,oh my mistake this profession took off in the 90's. Plenty of women voluntarily use TER but one doesn't and she is the outcast, I don't know her but I respect her.  Kind of sucks when you can't play GOD huh gentleman?

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It's my opinion/and experience that Chase does not want potentially bad reviews. I have had the chance to meet chase and meet only..... Once she arrived at my door she informed me that she does not do business with African Americans? My reply was my money is just as green as everybody else’s. and then she left. Up until this point I never said anything about it. Now it makes since to me.


Luke Cage

I am sorry to hear that..

thats F**ked but sadly common place where im from..
I thought phoenix would be better..  

Hey Luke,
I love ALL men so if you would like to play I wold love to see you.  I certainly won't turn you down due to skin color.  

Let's play soon.
Misty

that is ridiculous.. you got guys who refuse to wash their groins getting (reluctant) service meanwhile a generous black guy (who I will give the benefit of the doubt, bathes) that is refused service because he has dark skin. I am a white  guy but I see that racial hating on CL all the time and can only feel upset by it.
I respect a provider's right to chose who she decides to see and not see but seems like being nice, respectful, hygenic, etc. should be more important than skin color.

At edit

I realize that providers have preferences just like hobbiests. I just think that if they are deal breakers should be stated in advance or on their ad instead of rejecting someone face to face.

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as to save being turned down at the door. I can't even and would not want to imagine what that feels like.

kisses
Terri

You must be a dear, sweet, sensitive man to be concerned about such an issue-your remark about the color of your money-as compared to other hobbyists-gives us a brief insight into the respect you hold for the profession. Race and skin pigmentation is quite an interesting side bar to the hobby. Is it not?

I’m not one to provide answers, but I do have a lot of stories that stem from experience from both inside and outside the hobby. I’m not being political. I’m not taking a stand. I’m just stating the way things are… Whether you were turned down for policy reasons, as your post seems to indicate; or for something else is really moot. It is moot because it doesn’t jive with the realities of the business…

It is not uncommon for perspective clients to seek out a provider that has a specific body type or a certain ethnic identity. Some say that variety is the spice of life!! However, few perspective clients consider the converse; that being: It is not uncommon for some providers to specialize in providing services to clients with-shall we say-a certain type of ethnic or cultural identity.

There are some white providers who specialize in “doing” black Guys; and, there are some black providers who specialize in “doing” white guys. There are some providers who specialize in elderly clients, and there are some providers who work with the grossly obese or physically challenged or emotionally immature.

I know of a white provider in the Tucson area who specializes in “doing” Arabs and their friends and their relatives. The same provider also has a couple of regular clients who are very young, very wealthy, very immature spoiled Asian college students-they smoke dope and play video games on their lap-tops. However, this same provider very rarely does black guys (she uses the word chocolate…)

In addition, I think it pertinent to note, that providers develop a list of preferred or repeat clients and they sometimes share information among themselves-I’m sure you know this.

Now, I suppose it might be possible-if not probable-that some liberated, politically correct lady might relish the idea of developing a list of clients that stretches the bounds of diversity; but, the business demands and the harsh reality of the escorting life make this impractical. Regardless of what clients wish to believe, the reality of escorting, the TRUE business reality of “Rent-a-Lady” for your fun, fantasy and pleasure is quite different from what most clients like to imagine.

It is not always the provider who: sets the policy about skin pigmentation, or sets the rates, or screens the calls, or answers the e-mail, or arranges the out calls, or holds the lease on the in call, or owns the car, or gets the money. It is usually some guy or a lose consortium of unrelated guys that control these aspects of a provider’s life. These useless parasites very rarely take the heat and they are ALWAYS lurking behind the scenes.

However, it is the provider who gets raped, robbed, arrested, jailed, blackmailed, knocked around and run out of Dodge. While the sleaze-ball, scum-bag parasites get rich.

Regardless of what you might wish to think, escorting is all about money and survival and keeping straight with LE and paying the bills.

Now, Luke, my man, maybe if you’d offered to pay double what the lady was asking, she-or her manager or her pimp or her whatever-might have reconsidered. Who knows? In any event, the reality of escorting is that it is an unregulated, illegal business. The ladies survive the best way they know how and in the process they try to preserve a modicum of self-esteem. I’m sorry you were offended. Please don't hold it against the provider… PEACE.

Sheika Fatima    


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I read the review and was noted that this particular lady is not into certain elements of the experience that are high on my list.  So, while she's certinly a cutie, her services offered would not fill the bill.  That's the purpose of TER.  Now I realize that contact with the agency might have explained that. But, if not, then, well... yaknowwhatimean.

...according to Chase (and correct me if I am wrong Chase!), many of her reviews stated she did things that she did not do.  This has happened to more than one lady that I know, including many of the ladies that work with me.  Since she was receiving calls from gentlemen requesting things that were stated in reviews, things that she did not provide, she decided to have them removed all together.  I've had clients ask for discounts because the lady they saw did not do EXACTLY what was said she did in the review.  I have thought seriously about taking all of my reviews down because of this!! Lesson to learn here - YMMV and TER is not the bible gentlemen! If you would all be so kind to remember this, Chase's reviews as well as many others would probably still be listed here!  Please remember this the next time you embellish your reviews - it may sound good to you, but more times than not, it is just going to put the lady in a bad situation if you list something that she doesn't enjoy doing.  Now go out there and have fun!!

..that the "reviews" may oft times be over-stated, I would simply ask that the profile information relative to appearance and services offered be accurate.  Is that too much to ask for?  Could TER perhaps consider posting the profiles and not reviews if so requested by the provider??

Number 1:  YMMV!
Number 2:  TER is informative, but NOT the Bible.
Number 3:  Please see #1 above.
If guys would just keep these points in mind, there would be far less communication problems.  I recently referred a friend to someone I had a 9 1/2*  experience with, and carefully told him, "Just remember, friend, she's NOT a robot, and YMMV."  I can't make it any clearer than that.

Hey man maybe you should do what I do and let them know that you are black upfront.  I normally email and let them know that I am a black male and if they do not reply that is cool nothing lost.  But if you arrive at someone's place and then they either do not open the door (Beth- creepy Rowan Scarlette)or tell you that they do not see black men then that is a different story since sometimes you travel far across the valley to see them.  Have you seen the price of gas?  I wrote Chase and told her that I was black and she wrote back which was very white of her to make it a point to tell me that she do not see black men and that she even dated a black man once and had a bad experience.  Fortunately othere races do not have any bad people.  I am 53, very professional, very clean and have seen a few women from here.

I use TER to determine if a Provider will be likely to meet my needs.  I recognize that, by its very nature, this is going to be a YMMV hobby.  

There are, however, Providers who carefully limit what is on the Menu, and while I completely support their right to set those limitations, I like to know what they are before I see her.  If, for example, in my case, DFK is not on the Menu, regardless of how gorgeous the Provider may be, or how excellent her Reviews might be in all other respects, I will be unlikely to schedule with her because she simply won't be meeting all of my needs.

It's her right to choose what to include on her Menu, and my right to choose whether to schedule based on her choices.

Recently I learned that the YMMV came into play in Reviews because DFK is something a Provider I was considering seeing chooses only sometimes.  In her Reviews, it was pretty clear she didn't include DFK on her Menu.  Fortunately, I heard from a colleague that the Provider in question actually does have DFK on the menu, but that she chose to remove it from said Menu for a few clients who didn't meet her hygeine standards.

In essence, I learned that if I would make sure I had good breath and a shower, this Provider would meet my needs, and, knowing that, I plan to try to schedule some fun with her in the near future.  (If I ever recover from the incredible night I had with Mila and Brittney!!)

If a Provider chooses not to be reviewed, I support her right to make that choice.  One result of that choice, however, is that I may choose not to see her because this is an inherently risky business.  If I don't know what to expect, I'm not going to make the call.  I've wasted way too much money this way.  At least with a Review, I have some idea of what others have experienced, so I can determine how likely it is I'll enjoy my own experience.

TER is NOT the Bible, but it gives me some information, and for me, that information is very valuable.

First, let me say that I am a firm believer of YMMV and aslo believe that if you treat a woman with respect, she will keep her end of the deal.  Unfortanatly this was not the case with Chase.  I saw her last summer and she had so many rules I would have been better off with my right hand and a porno.  No daty, no kissing, just put it in and get it over with.  She supplied the condom and it broke.  Terrified, I got tested and told her the results (negative) and she acted like it was my fault it happened!  I would tread litely with this one...

I see black men!! WTF, I do not discriminate at all! and I do not hide behind my door when appointments show up because of any reason,, maybe you should look at my reviews and see that two of the men on there are black!  So its just possible that you made an error and scheduled wrong.....I would love to see you! and that was not at all fair to include me in this!

I have to agree about the disconnect between a review site allowing a provider to post and removng her reviews. Either her reviews should stand (esp in this case as she sounds pretty YMMV for my taste)or she should not be allowed to post.
If you choose to delist thats a personal choice.  dont expect to be allowed to advertise afterwards....

We should remember that for all of the ladies that we see!

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I saw her around 2 years ago and althought there were some things that are not on her menu I had a good experience with her. Sorry I never made a return trip.

EXAGGERATED REVIEWS:

What does it say about a grown "man" who feels the need to exaggerate and embellish his time spent with a prostitute? Who are these characters trying to impress? Is it mom and/or dad? Is it a complex unresolved childhood issue? What does it say about their mental health?  What does it say about their maturity. What dark foreboding animosities do these wing nuts harbor and how many of them are borderline cases that are balancing on the narrow edge of reality?

Exaggerating reviews is a practice that is all too common and it greatly complicates an already complex,illegal and precarious busness. Watch out for these guys (The ladies know who they are, but what's a poor girl to do?) You never know when one of them is gong to crack... And,,,

The white list is a good idea, but its not working.

Money is money and business is business, but fantasy is not reality. Please, everyone, give it some thought and let the board know what you think.

I love you all,

Sheika Fatima



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Why in the hell would I lie about something like that?  I actually tried twice with you and on CL you were definitely the topic.  You are such a lyer and you know it.  If you do see black men that is fine but you just recently started to.  I remember using your web site and you asked for a picture ( I did not look that bad) I actually have a great body for an old man; and you never replied back after me communicating with you.  I also specifically asked you if you see black men write me back and you did not.  There was also a friend of yours who said you stood behind a door while a black knocked and you waited until he left.  There is no need to lie the truth is in the pudding.