Hey everybody, since one of our favorite ladies from the past is back, I was wondering where all the accolades, praises and reviews are for the lovely Lisa4fun?  Let's hear it for this great lady.  Lisa, hope to see you soon.  Did you get my last email a few days ago?

Lots of lovelyladies like her don't get acollades &praises .its a click.Maybe hard to break-in&getting accepted.Ever notice somebody posts & no other top& girls respond??  

and I think he was wanting a gentleman's response not one from the ladies. Lisa and I shared an apartment and worked together for over a year and a half, and was one of the first top ladies here in the valley. She keeps to herself so most of the other ladies wouldn't have input anyway.

Thank you Debbie.  At least you were able to understand what I was talking about.

I agree. Ever notice how the same girls show up and praise their homeys? The honest ones rarely do that. You should recognize a "shill" when you see it: An obvious praise that is  WAY over the top and not even remotely accurate...

are you nuts?  Are you saying that girls like Debbie, Kandee or Sky who are active on this board are not honest or there is something wrong with them supporting each other?  These girls are awesome and Phoenix is lucky to have them.  If you didn't mean that you might want to reword your statement.  This doesn't even count that this is not what the original poster was talking about-- he meant why don't more hobbyists praise Lisa.

I was responding to this post:

"Lots of lovelyladies like her don't" get acollades &praises .its a click.Maybe hard to break-in&getting accepted.Ever notice somebody posts & no other top& girls respond??  

Now...I also have the right to post my observations as well, and that does not qualify me as being "nuts" as you describe. I have observed a definite bias towards certain ladies by a small group, many of whom "pump up" the same few girls. These same people (not only ladies) omit many wonderful girls as well. I agree with the poster mentioned in the quote above. Is that ok with you,or does your opinion become more important than mine?

I could tell which line you were responding too.  And I'm sure you're a nice guy and my opinion is certainly not more important than yours or anyone elses.  However, in one statement you managed to imply that certain posters are shills, that girls that support one another are dishonest and that if someone else really likes a girl and posts a message then it is over the top and inaccurate.  
You are clearly entitled to your opinion-- just as I am entitled to contradict it. The original poster on this thread merely mentioned a girl he liked and asked for a response.  Isn't he entitled to his opinion (just like you)?  Or is he a "shill"?  

Also, there are only a handful of girls that are active on this board and they all seem to know each other so wouldn't it seem natural that they comment on and support each other?  Why would they comment on someone they don't know?  WE are the ones that see the different girls, not them.  How does this make them dishonest?  

And you seem to truly value an individual's opinion-- yet if this one gentleman praises a girl HE likes it is "WAY over the top and not accurate".  Isn't his opinion  ok with you, or does your opinion become more important than his?

This is no doubt a circular argument. Obviously if the SAME ladies praise the SAME ladies over and over again..then there is an obvious bias towards that group. Many lovely and successsful ladies have posted here over the years only to be ignored by this same "clique" group. A particular lady would post with little or no follow up posts...then...one of the "clique group" posts and voila!..."Oh my god your new pictures are just marvelous....or...you look just like (famous star omitted)" etc. Little do these people know that an astute client will pick up on these "exagerations", and sense that somthing is amiss in this little self serving "clique". The reason that "there are only a handful of girls that are active on this board" is because the ones that did not get the support...dropped off. Oh...these "handful" of girls are very well aware of most of the other ladies through statements from their clients, as well as "back channels". It would be naive to assume that they are unaware of others. They just choose to ignore them...

I agree with Green Lantern.  Its amazing how when one in the Clique posts, the rest of that group "piles" on.  Yet, there are a number of wonderful ladies who have posted a few times, and their posts are ignored.  Ignoring another ladies post doesn't bother me.  Its the piling on that raises doubt.