I just moved up to this area from Tucson and I can't figure out what's going on here.  Why are people paying these women obscene amounts of money for their services?  $300/hr?!?!  That's outrageous.  I can go to the massage parlor across the street and get a handjob from a hot girl for $60.  A ridiculously hot girl at another parlor offered full service for $140.  In Tucson, you could get half hour outcall specials for $60 on a good day.  On a bad day, it was $150/hr.  Why in the world do people pay these outrageous prices?  Some of the girls are fat and ugly.  $300 to get with a fat, ugly chick. Common.  Get real.  Unless you're over 50 years old, you can do that for free anytime you want.  What's up with these high priced average looking girls?

Hey if that is how you feel, then enjoy your HJ. That will just leave more appointment times available for those of us who appreciate the very caring, very sensual, VERY attractive Valley of the Sun girls like Debbie, Kandee, Carlee, Chrissy, Sky, Jordan, and others. Personally while I live in San Diego, I have found that the ladies from Phoenix are among the most beautiful and caring ladies I have had the pleasure of meeting during my fiesta "FUN"times. Of course, I am already over fifty, but someday you will be there too.....

so why did you leave Tucson?  the list for that city seems kind of lacking and 'just' a little shorter than Phoenix.  "average looking", ...huh?  THIS is the best of the west (and maybe east too!).

you must not be looking in the right place...try looking on www.phoenix411.net and then you'll change your tune.

If you don't like the women or the prices in Phoenix nobody is forcing you to partake in them. You can either drive to Tucson for your 'stress relief' (if you're not too cheap to pay for the gas to go there) or move back to Tucson. You won't be missed here ;o)

No, I don't think you understand what I'm saying.  I'm saying that there are really hot girls here in the Phoenix area that will do full service for $150 or less.  I don't need to go to Tucson.  I know where I can find it here.  That's why I can't understand why people are paying $300+  Do people just not know the places where you can it for reasonable prices?  Is that why they're paying so much or is there another reason?  It's not a matter of being cheap.  It's a matter of common sense.  If the quality improved at the $400 level, I could see doing it; but that just not the case - it's actually better at the $150 level.

People just dont know or are tourists. Some providers are not "local friendly" and will not adjust their prices. Sooner or later they travel, move, or retire. If you read this board you would think that business sucks for the ladies. There is a shortage of providers in the valley. We need more ladies, but most of the locals arnt gonna pay over 2 bills and thats a fact. Its not what but who you know. I have wanted to see many ladies who frequent this board but its not in my budget so i dont. Ive never been much for haggeling so i dont. We all lose in a small way but Somebody is getting my dough three times a week. Summers coming and its a buyers market in the HOT desert. Be nice everyone some take this stuff way to personaly. Cheers

I wouldn't really say that most of the locals won't pay over 2 bills because judging from my client list that's incorrect. I also don't agree that there's a shortage of providers - quite the opposite if you look at www.phoenix411.net from what it used to be this time last year and now. I think all of the ladies on there are exceptional and worth whatever they choose to charge.

I wouldn't have been able to retire earlier than I thought if my business was slow and looking at all the reviews Jordan, Kandee, Chrissy, Ashley, Sky, Mya and the list goes on have been getting lately I doubt they would agree either.

Fortunately, the valley supports all different incomes and has enough variety in girls to satisfy everyone's budget. I just don't like people coming on this board and saying "what's wrong with you for spending x amount of dollars" It's the laws of supply and demand and if the demand is high then the girls can charge what they want. Obviously if the demand was low we'd all be lowering our rates. Don't try to speak for the masses when you're only the minority.

Thank you for clearing that up, mcozzy1, and I'm glad that you've found providers that you enjoy with acceptable rates.

That's the beauty of having so many providers to choose from and so many clients looking for them.... there's always someone for everyone. What we all need to remember is that not everyone is looking for the same type of provider (some even look for the fat ones :oP ) and not everyone has the same finances to spend on them. There are some who are looking for a very specific type of provider or services and have the money and desire to pay more for them if they need to.

There's no need to worry about the higher priced providers. What they get for their services should only be the concern of them and those who are paying them. Just stick with the ones who make you happy ;o)

"No, I don't think you understand what I'm saying."

I understand what you're saying.... and I'm glad that the girls I see charge more money so they're happy with seeing me and DONT see losers like you, and DONT feel they have to work all the time if they don't want to.  Figure it out... If a girl takes home $300 x 3 a week on average, that's $900 x 45 weeks [gotta have vacation]... she's not exactly getting rich and probably doesn't want [and cant] escort for that many years.  Where's the payoff???  Sure, she can see more men than that, and that's the payoff, but she ain't getting rich dude!  She needs to charge that to put some coin away.

OneK

THanks for the reply, Danny.  I thought either I was going crazy or else it's only providers who are on this board.  I didn't mean to offend anyone.  I was just asking because I didn't understand.  I had just never run across women charges such rates.  I'll just stick to my hot babes in the under $150 category whenever I get the urge and let everyone else do whatever they want.  Not my issue.

I f your client list is long, more power to you. I DONT CARE WHAT YOU CHARGE. Believe it or not half the girls on Glens site are local friendly. Lets not get into a flame war over pricing, Charge what the market will bear but also remember all the locals are exceptional people and should be treated with the same respect as the ladies on phoenix411.net. Cheers, Dan

sticks and stones. you sound like amiee

I have local clients who are very familiar with D's list and TMan's list, yet they still keep coming back to see me.

Are they complete idiots to throw away their money on me when they could be seeing less expensive girls? I don't think so.

They obviously find value for their money when they see me and others like Debbie, Kandee, Jordan, etc. who are in the same price range.

"You get what you pay for" applies to this business too.

You got the math right.  You got the "loser" label in the wrong place.  I'm young and good looking.  I don't have hundreds of thousands of dollars put away yet, but I'm on my way.  When I do, I won't spend $400 an hour on anything.  I don't see these girls on occasion because I have to.  I see them because I don't have to worry about them getting all attached and calling me all the time.  As Charlie Sheen said, "You're not paying the girl for sex.  You're paying the girl to leave afterwards."  

I'm glad that you're so concerned about the girls, their careers, and even their retirement.  You must be a real winner to spend your time thinking about such lofty goals.  They are very lucky to have found a loser like you that will pay them that much money and enjoy doing it.  Of course they're happy to see you.  You answered my question better than anyone yet.  The reason you will pay $400 an hour to be with a marginally attractive girl is so you feel special when the girls act like they're happy to be with you when in reality it's all about the cash.  The $150 an hour girls must not act happy enough for you.  It's a business.  It's sad that you're so depend on these girls.

My hot 23 year old ex-girlfriend with a perfect body is in town this weekend.  I'll be with her all weekend for free.  You just keep planning the retirement and vacation time for your $400/hour girls.  They love you for it.

chrissy-

you are not on the high end.  jamie appears to be 4 times the provider you are . . . lol!

I am not four times the provider of anyone, loverboy.  I think every human being on the planet is equal in the eyes of the Universe.  Me, you, everyone.  Don't start your nonsense again.  I'm glad the thread about me finally went on the second page.  However, if anyone wants a good laugh they should read what you wrote about me and then read my wonderful responses!!

Well Well, what a firestorm has been stirred up.  How about a reality check, many girls on 411.net post one price but for locals and regulars tht are local there is a different price.  Its all about advertising and marketing.  If the tourist or business traveler wants to pay 350-400 then i say let the providers make it.  Most locals, not all, but at least the majority I know, stay in the 200-250 range and see very quality providers who are fablous to be with.  Phoenix is a tough market for providers.  So in the end, it really doesn't matter what they charge, it only matters if you the customer want to pay it.  Just my two cents, worth all you paid for it.
Jackson