I've made it my personal policy to never negotiate a lady's rate. I might negotiate services for that rate but never the rate itself. My personal feeling is that a lady has a right to charge whatever she feels is fair for her services. Equally so, I have the right avail myself of those services or or not avail myself of her services. But I don't feel it’s right for me argue her rate. That’s just out of respect for the lady. To do otherwise makes me feel like I’ve cheapened the experience for both of us. But that’s just me others may feel differently.

That now out of the way. How does one exactly justify in ones own mind, paying $1,500 for a 1 or 2 hour session with a lady when said money can offer up multiple sessions with ladies of equal or superior looks and reviews?

Now if it were Pam Anderson or some movie star that I had a man-to-hand relationship with over the years.... I might understand That would be a fantasy fulfilled and a once in a lifetime experience. But there appear to be some ladies who feel they are worth in excess of $1G and don’t even bother revealing their faces or complete bodies. Furthermore, some of these ladies want 50% down before they see you.

Now call me jaded, but what’s wrong with a picture where the seller won’t let you inspect the product and requires a non-refundable deposit before they deliver. Wasn’t there a some saying awhile back about a fool and his money?

Now I'm sure that there are lots of opinions on this one and that's what a discussion board is for. And yes, I know this topic is not a new one. But for a change, I'd like to hear from the hobbyists who actually spent that much money and get their views on why they felt it was worth it..... or maybe not worth it. Also, I'd like to know if the $1G ladies only advertise that rate and are always negotiated downward, or do people actually pay that rate.

All thoughts are welcome.

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This is hard to believe....

Ladies based on this, we that have great reviews just think of what we could charge!!!!!!

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I'm trying to figure how she got more than one review at that rate!

--b.

My scenario was one you mentioned-I had a serious man-to-hand relationship several years ago with a certain porn star who will remain nameless.

The opportunity presented itself to spend some quality time with her-2 hours for the princely sum of $2500.

Anyone who knows me knows that while I hobby, I am certainly not in the income bracket where that amount is to be triffled with on any single event.

But one wants what one wants...so I went for it.

Since I only have the one true Porn Star Experience, I don't have anything to compare it to directly. At the time, I thought it was a bargain, such an over-the-top flat crazy experience that everyone should have at lease once in their lives.

But I doubt if I would ever do it again. Experience has taught me that sometimes fantasies need to stay in your head to retain their true value.

I've had many provider experiences since then, and while I'll always remember that one, I have  much better, less expensive memories that linger still. And pricey ones that I wish I could forget.

I also have some real crappy memories of budget experiences too-disappointment it seems, is no more a function of cost than quality.

But a grand to some people is like 200 to me, so I imagine that justifies that-money just doesn't mean the same to everyone. One day I hope to be wealthy enough that a grand doesn't mean anything to me-LOL!

Now, sight unseen and 50% pre booking deposits-sorry, not under ANY circumstances and irrespective of cost. I get the whole mystery and the less is more concept, but my inner skeptic simply won't allow it. My loss perhaps.

I'm glad my many varied experiences have taught me that money is irrelevant to quality.

Also thankful that the range of pricing allows those of us who aren't internet billionaires to still experience the magic too.

There's some thoughts. I'm sure I'll have more-expect revisions.

Hobby Happy

JJ




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YA I see them every Day pass me by

I think if you have a good rep, and  if the lady is known then they must ask for 1 G for advertiseing traveling cost and so on. I could be wrong but there are some beautiful women out there all over the world.As far as you trying to work things out between each other is up to you. Good luck Be Safe Janna Saphire

hobbyist 2 and 3? Clearly they new TER existed because they posted here. Why did they decide to go for it anyway?

Like the mystery of the Tootsie pop.... the world may never know. :0

Like Jack, I have done this once for a well known porn star and it was so intense I am surprised I survived the experience.  In that case, the 75 minutes spent with her was such an outasight fantasy fulfilled that it made a 1G donation acceptable.
 Similarly, I don' know if I will ever do it again.  Perhaps fantasies are only meant to be experienced once and the concept of topping that seems a mission in frustration.

there are a certain set of gentlemen out there that money is not what it's about. Some just like to have exactly what they want. Some like to pay more to sepparate themselves from everyone else. There are not as many of them around, unfortunately.

There are certain ladies out there who manage their money well enough to sustain themselves through these droughts- and they'd rather not take as many calls. These ladies don't like to see the type of guys who do this trashy bickering (whining) about $50 (or a few hundred measly dollars in some cases). Sleeping with a guy who behaves this way is nauseating. You feel like you want to run off and take a shower to get off all the filth.

Then there are the gals who can't even get motivated to get out of the house for less than $1,000 so then that is their rate.

If you think that arguing with her about her rate (or chastising her) is going to change her mind- your wrong because that is exactly what she wishes to stay from- "you".

I don't charge 1g or higher, but if I were in the financial situation to do it.  I would. I respect other providers who wish to sepparate themselves from everybody else for whatever reason.

I had my rates at $300 back in 1997/98 and when I changed them to $400 I had to deal with the same crap. Everyone eventually addapted.

If they are out of your ballpark then, simply, move on.



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The agency in question. He's right he deserved it-doesn't make it any less painful though. Can't avoid the trees if you close your eyes while running through the forest. Don't even need to be a VIP to see two 2s and move on. He has my emphathy if not my sympathy.

Money and quality have even less and less to do with each other as time goes by, huh??

If it did, the fine ladies of stellar reputation reviewed here would be well into the seven figure range per session.

And worth every penny. Of course, I wouldn't know cause then the entire hobby would be well out of MY price range.

Hobby Smart, cause no one is going to make you protect yourself, is the lesson there.

Hobby Happy

JJ

I got the Bingo franchise !

Thank You

Everyone has their own reasons and take on that.

But, I think most high $$ escorts blur their faces (not to the point that you're not getting a pretty good idea of what they look like), for the discretion of themselves but more importantly for their clients.

A lot of the dates start out in public and high profile men don't want others to know they are with a high profile escort, but rather a lovely date (assuming most are and not including myself as 'lovely') That would be rather presumptuous wouldn't it? (smile)  

I also cover a tattoo in my photos not to disillusion a potential client but so that I am not so recognizable in public.

CIAO,
xoxox
Isabella M

I can see where both hobbiests and providers would be offended by this.  I also like to take personal offense at things, and then I realize, "Gee, the world really DOESN'T revolve around me."

I have spoken with one such lady described in this post (charging over $1G) and she has a time-consuming "day job".  The higher rates really reflect a lack of available time more than anything else.  If she only does two gigs per month (which is about the actual rate), that's perfectly fine with her.  The extra $ is good, but she can take it or leave it.

I can respect that.

I think you can truly experience any thing at just about any price.. Just like my up and coming fantasy...LOL!!! Calli and Peyton together! Blows my mind just thinking about it!

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I’m envious of those who can justify such an expenditure on this scale.  And if a Lady can command such a rate and stay in business more power to her.  But I for one would have to return to the world of what if’s and it sure would be nice were this norm and not the exception.  I would hope we maintain the current status of exception experiences and more realistic rates.

it's been a few weeks since i've visited and i must say this is some topic.  ummmm.. without trying to imply anything, the providers that charge 1K or more are obviously limiting themselves to individuals who can afford that amount and, more than likely, are limiting the amount of time they will be entertaining hobbyists.  who knows why?  who cares?  we all have our reasons for doing what we do.  not knowing the individual/s charging 1K+ i'm almost sure it's NOT because they think they are "better" than anyone else.  in fact, i'm almost sure they are just trying to limit their availability due to time constraints.  if they think that they will be getting a better "class" of clientele.. having money doesn't always mean you have class.  however, if i am wrong and these providers do think they are that much better than those charging 300,350,400..  i think they better reassess themselves. if they think they will always get a better class of hobbyist, i'm sure they are wrong on that count as well.  there are assholes at every level... but i suppose getting the 10 Ben Franklins (2 William McKinley's or 1 Grover Cleveland) makes it tolerable!

Only if all squares equal 69.

Hugs,
Ciara

I hope BishopFollowme does not find out
about this ! ! !

Thank You

I think I should see you in the confessional! Wink

If a guy is at all bickering about rates that is just plan RUDE....

Its a service guys. Pay it or move on to what you can afford.

you look like a smuck too FYI

I'd rather see you under the pulpit (or at least part of you). Ooh, I know I'm going to Hell now. Ouch!

Hugs,
Ciara

There have been several posts in this thread about the idea that it was worth huge sums of money to fulfill a fantasy.  I understand that, since I once did get to fulfill a fantasy with a provider.  She didn't charge an enormous amount of money, however, and her performance actually EXCEEDED my fantasies about her... this was, of course, my ATF Provider, Brittney, from Desert Divas.

I had seen her on the site and spent lots of time fantasizing about how great it would be to be with her.  She was unavailable for more than a month, however, and all that time, I kept on dreaming and dreaming.  Having decided I would have to accept the fact that I would never see her, I finally decided that I would simply accept whomever Divas had available since I had heard so many great things about them from people whose opinions I trust.  I called them to ask who they had, and when they told me Brittney was available, I almost fell out of my chair in ecstasy.  She was at my place in a couple of hours, and that hour we spent together (as well as the subsequent 2-hour session I got to have with her) will be forever emblazoned in my memory as one of the greatest nights of my life.  

The moral of the story is that it isn't always about the money.  It's more often about the quality of the Provider you choose.  When you get the girl that's right for you, the world is simply a better place.

Fred