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loverboy57 3352 reads
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five and dime you are once again way off the mark.  you forget i was hobbying way long before i got involved with mystique.  I have known the providers mentioned for over two years.  Robin worked for a well known lady in this town when she first started.  For those that know, which is certainly not you, whe and Paige were the rave for around six to eight months over a year ago.  As for Kayla I saw her two years ago in Dallas and many times since.  Itgs nice to know your jealous that someone who does it right and knows people and can bring those people to the hobby community that are talented gets your goat.  Course you are probabley, Jimmy Lick, aka Model 62, aka Desert Skrub, aka localfan and now fiveanddime.  If your not a surrogate of those alias.  Yes I have two names.  Everyone on this board knows that.  Jackson4117 and Loverboy57.  Don't know about a third, you keep up on my business more than I do.  But hey, keep those cards and letters coming, I like good debates, especially when you are so dumb you can't ever get your facts straight.  By the way, how is your new agency your supposedly backing doing?  Are is that just a rumor started by one of the providers who wants a agency.

azhacker3504 reads

I happened to browse back thru the AZMystique thread from local fan. Both he & fiveanddime (who bashed em for some reason) have ZERO reviews between them...meanwhile every other poster has reviews up.

I think that free speech is valuable and should be protected but I think that if your going to take a shot it should be under your "real" handle and allowed only if your a provider or a contributer.

I know Taylor Lynn wouldnt have pissed on me if I was on fire awhile back (or Kara:))...I posted my opinion under MY handle and took accountability for my posts. Once we all had a chance to meet we developed an understanding and from my side at least an appreciation.

Bottom line is simple, if your gonna throw rocks then do it the right way. Otherwise dont throw the rock....just crawl under it.

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cgsmks3830 reads

so, it's not free speech is it?  Sounds kinda conditional?

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azhacker4469 reads

In a way it is, I just dont see the value of allowing ongoing personal vendetta's waged under aliases. You got a beef or just dont like someone or something....fine. But malicious sniping behind a false front is almost as bad as false reviews to me. Sure the "regulars know whats up, but anyone else wont. This same person went and tryed to hammer them  on another board as well.

The thread wasnt directed specifically at that but its the latest in what I consider ongoing abuse....

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ChrissyStone4267 reads

First of all, I do agree it's wrong for someone to post nasty things while hiding under an alias. TER is supposed to remove those kinds of posts anyway.

But telling a person he's not credible because he doesn't post reviews doesn't make sense.

Maybe the guys here don't realize how FEW of you post reviews.

Perhaps some ladies may ask their clients to post reviews, but most of us don't. I'd say the majority of gentlemen who have seen me have never posted one review of anyone.

They do so for a variety of reasons--privacy the most likely reason.

I think we should encourage posts from everyone, whether they be long-time lurkers, newbies, or regular posters--and it shouldn't matter whether they have zero reviews or 100.

If someone does post something controversial or unpleasant, the community here can scold him/her publicly--just as they always have.

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loverboy573477 reads

Chrissy makes a point.  This board should take all posts no matter where they come from  If one does not like them then attack accordingly and state your case.  Many of us have been on both ends of the specturm.  Big shoulders and credibility win the day. It is those that deceive and outright lie that need to be banned and scorned.  Jealousy is a terrible but can be the best form of flattery.

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FSinIndy3358 reads

Cheers!

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azhacker3763 reads

If your posting something of a general nature....sure. But if your bashing an agency (or independent) you've never seen I take issue. I dont see how you can consider that "credible"

I'll use my own actions to illustrate. I've always ragged on Carla...partially over her rates, but also some of her general comments/attitude. However I never ever insinuated that she provided anything less than a "quality" experience...just that she topped out over my own "line in the sand". Everyone could and did judge my comments one way or the other...and thats fine. Those comments were made under my "handle" never behind a false front. Guess I was raised to believe that you dont say anything behind someones back you won't say to their face.

As for writing reviews vs "lurking"....

1st, I've never been asked to write a review by a provider. If I meet someone I like I'll ask if they mind. My ATF here in phoenix doesnt allow reviews and doesnt see anyone she doesnt know already...so not everyone wants public attention. But I'll always provide a review otherwise...just as long as its understood I'll call it like I see it.

Boards like this are only valuable if folks contribute content...just my 2 cents.

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AssistantZoe2682 reads

You bashed me plenty and never saw ANYONE in my organization.   So "But if your bashing an agency (or independent) you've never seen I take issue. I dont see how you can consider that 'credible'" is a ridiculous statement for you to make.

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danordanny2861 reads

Most people do not write reviews and this is an unknown fact that most hobbiest dont realize. I would love to have the TER stats concerning the percentage of paid members vs Review writing members. I think the Hobbiest community would be shocked by the results. Although I have maybe 9 reviews posted Ive been a member of TER for many many years and im sure ive seen at least twice that many providers. I used TER when traveling for years before ever posting on a message board here. Most people use TER mail or other backchannel means to communicate and stay off the boards. Aliases are a joke and should be skipped over, I for one will not respond to an alias anymore.

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fiveanddime4279 reads

And read how both Danordanny and Jackson4117 have talked like they DON'T own the agency and speak about how great their people are FROM EXPERIENCE (Kayla, Kennedy, Robin). Who's to say that their girls' reviews aren't bogus as well?  Anyone can make up a name.  Jackson4117 has at least three.  

I also believe that if you go back to the beginning when they first opened, you'll see a post from Danordanny saying "good luck", etc. but not one word on the fact that he owns the place.

You are right, I'm not a boardmember and don't receive your discounts.  Maybe that's why I haven't supported them like you do.  What is your discount, anyway?

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danordanny3520 reads

I dont own the place... FACT, show me the facts. Of course i wished them luck, just as i give kudos to all the honest agencys out there. What investments I have are my business but I do own a lot of enron, any takers? NO SOUP FOR YOU.

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loverboy573353 reads

five and dime you are once again way off the mark.  you forget i was hobbying way long before i got involved with mystique.  I have known the providers mentioned for over two years.  Robin worked for a well known lady in this town when she first started.  For those that know, which is certainly not you, whe and Paige were the rave for around six to eight months over a year ago.  As for Kayla I saw her two years ago in Dallas and many times since.  Itgs nice to know your jealous that someone who does it right and knows people and can bring those people to the hobby community that are talented gets your goat.  Course you are probabley, Jimmy Lick, aka Model 62, aka Desert Skrub, aka localfan and now fiveanddime.  If your not a surrogate of those alias.  Yes I have two names.  Everyone on this board knows that.  Jackson4117 and Loverboy57.  Don't know about a third, you keep up on my business more than I do.  But hey, keep those cards and letters coming, I like good debates, especially when you are so dumb you can't ever get your facts straight.  By the way, how is your new agency your supposedly backing doing?  Are is that just a rumor started by one of the providers who wants a agency.

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