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Re: wtf... Is wrong with you

Kelsi See my TER Reviews 1923 reads

posted 9 years ago

1 / 62

Overpriced?

Ever owned/ran your own business? Then you'd know a 30% product markup does not entail a 30% bottom line profit. That 30% is before all necessary costs going back into the company to run your business. ALL businesses face this in order to operate.

Escorting is no different and it's silly to think otherwise. $400 hardly ends up being a $400 profit, as many just assume it to be. Hardly...

$400 gets charged for the hotel room, or the rental of the incall. If you don't deem the avg to upscale amenities, consider a $200/hr provider. I mean no offense here... it is what it is.

$400 gets charged for hygiene/personal products used, and offered to its patrons. After all, you want her hair to smell great, her legs to be shaved... or your shower to offer men's products that won't send you home smelling like daffodils (which is equivalent to you smelling like the alternative, BTW). Plus, products of assistance and raincoats don't come cheap.

There's the cost of hair salons, tanning beds, gym memberships (all of which have gone through the roof!), nail salons, waxing, teeth-whitening, facials, face creams (I'm not EVEN going to discuss this oligopolistic game theory!), etc... as you expect her to look her best, don't you? $400 is charged for all this too.

Then there's the cost of lingerie, stockings (and hosiery that doesn't "run", has yet to be invented!), stilettos, hot little dresses/skirts, jewelry, costumes... sexy attire in general. None of this is at a bargain because manufacturers prey on us. There's a hefty price for the bra and panty set existing outside the traditional white cotton realm. This costs that $400 a-plenty.

And let's not forget the routine cleaning/maintenance of that unforgiving, delicate, yet flimsy fabric this sexy-wear is made out of... you can either take it to the cleaners or attempt to care for it yourself, which only results in a rather shallow shelf-life before having to buy more. That $400 is dwindling away fast...

Props, toys, and enhancers of any sort are costly and require routine replacement, cleaning, and upkeep. ...Candles, refreshments, etc. How much of that $400 do we even have left?

Doctor's visits/routine checkups are not only taxing to the lady without corporate fringe-benefits, but likewise a challenge to finagle while maintaining a low-profile for its ongoing consistency. You want to date disease-free ladies, don't you? $400 pays for these astronomical healthcare costs of routine checkups too.

And nobody wants to visit a hotel room or incall that consists of dirty toilets and towels, un-fresh bedding and stained carpets, with clutter and to-go food containers scattered about. This either costs your provider substantial routine cleaning time, or the services of housekeeping, either of which comes out of that $400.

For some, an assistant is used to redirect inquiry implementations and screening. This frees up the large amounts of necessary time, otherwise required of the provider herself. This is generally a 30% fee, taken from that $400.

Drivers? Another 30% or more...

I'm not sure how the agencies assess their fees, also deducted from this $400, but you can bet it's substantial.

There's the cost of the Internet required/data usage... supplemental cell phones or separate business lines to run things smoothly. Usually, anyone who runs a business separates the home and work phone lines, as they generally have a life outside their professional realm, just as any of you do. Subtract this from the $400, if there's anything left...

These are just the majority of expenses required to escort... there are other costs too, either of which don't currently come to mind, or which simply don't apply to me. Keep in mind, each of us is different and unique. And unless one raises their rates often, perpetual inflation is not factored into this ratio...

The saying goes, "you get what you pay for", and there are generally equivalent standards that come with each price range. So the next time you opt for the otherwise $200/hr service, know that the quality of everything it revolves around, likewise, basically matches its fee. And that $200 is BEFORE overhead is factored.

But let's consider the risk involved... isn't that worth some value? I imagine anyone who puts themselves at risk of negative consequences, somehow factors this in with their rates. The need to attain attorney's fees alone, is something of possibility to consider. Still, even a landlord charges more for their rental, in case the water heater breaks.

Though for some, it is screening that inclines one to seek the companionship of those offering lower rates. Of course this doesn't apply to all providers at $200/hr, but in all honesty, the greater her rates, the tighter her security protocol, generally. Ladies and gents alike need to ensure to the best of their abilities, that they're reducing the chances of inflicted harm, whether it be physical, emotional, of criminal liability, or regarding exploitation concerns. We're all entitled. But what many fail to realize is that by choosing companionship, based solely on the fear of disclosing a bit of personal information, and therefore choosing those who require little to no screening... well what does that say about the traffic running in and out of her world? You don't even have to be on her turf to experience the surprise appearance of the lunatic or officer who followed her to your outcall. Ironically, she knows nothing more about the company she keeps than you do, which defeats the purpose of you remaining anonymous if shit goes down, therefore jeopardizing your overall safety, aside from hers. Be it the authorities or a psycho killer who ends up riding shot gun, you're going to end up on the 6:00 news if the wrong person slips through her transparent security measures... the very odds you were hoping to eliminate all along. And I'll just say what most people won't... most of the time when we end up victimized (MOST of the time...), it's because we put ourselves in the position to be. Sorry... that's just truth. If I get mugged when walking down the street alone in South Phoenix at 2am... is this really a surprise?

I'm not attacking ladies with $200 rates... if I could offer my company at that amount and still come out ahead, I would, but that would be impossible at this point without downsizing, so to speak... greed nor vanity are hardly factors here. Again, this all is what it is.

There are many reasons one acquires the company of an escort. Regardless, what you're seeking always comes with a price... ALWAYS... a price that more often than not, is strenuous of seeking within the confines of home. And even then, is she an unbiased little hottie, who always fusses over her appearance for you, in hopes of living out your fantasies and always giving you what you desire, without complaint, distraction, excuses, or rejection?

And so here we all are. By choice. I just hope to have presented a clearer understanding of what all is entailed, and I truly cherish those who understand it.

-- Modified on 1/29/2016 9:17:26 PM

AlfredHotcock 24 Reviews 767 reads

posted 9 years ago

2 / 62

Overpriced?

I'm not sure if I missed something that set this off, but you are listing a LOT of personal expenses most modern women incur; paying other people to clean up your carryout containers; paying someone 30% to handle a job aspect you don't want to; paying another 30% for a service you and everyone else charges extra for; and "not attacking" $200/hr girls. The saying goes, a good general picks his battles. This is a battle you may want to forget. In all seriousness, I hope you feel better having gotten this off your chest. If you are healthy and have the means for these things, be grateful, life may not be so bad.

tt85003 121 Reviews 454 reads

posted 9 years ago

3 / 62

One Plus eom

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Freemoney 630 reads

posted 9 years ago

4 / 62

Plus plus

I was thinking the same thing as I was reading. 90% of the so called expenses are every day for most people. And to be truefully I really don't see a difference between a 200 and a 400 lady most of the time. A lot maybe the type of service offered . I have a lady I see that is 180 and she gives the same services and has the same looks as the 500 lady's ,but I like variety so yes I do go for the 400 ones too. Too each his or her own.. But if someone was bitching about your rate that is bs I just don't get that. The person should just move on to someone that they can afford..

Posted By: AlfredHotcock

gymratguy 41 Reviews 713 reads

posted 9 years ago

5 / 62

You should be embrassed

Silly stupid post, I've been with 1000's of pieces of ass and known are worth more than 200-250 an hour.

gypsypooner2015 3 Reviews 623 reads

posted 9 years ago

6 / 62

Overpriced

- $400 gets charged for the hotel room, or the rental of the incall. If you don't deem the avg to upscale --amenities, consider a $200/hr provider. I mean no offense here... it is what it is.

Forget about the incall. Providers in the know just have the hobbyist pick them up.

-$400 gets charged for hygiene/personal products used, and offered to its patrons. After all, you want ---her hair to smell great, her legs to be shaved... or your shower to offer men's products that won't send -you home smelling like daffodils (which is equivalent to you smelling like the alternative, BTW). Plus, ---products of assistance and raincoats don't come cheap.

$400 for personal hygiene! LOL. Maybe get a Costco Membership.

-There's the cost of hair salons, tanning beds, gym memberships (all of which have gone through the -roof!), nail salons, waxing, teeth-whitening, facials, face creams

Tanning? Did you say tanning? Really? In Arizona?? LOL! Stick to the 18-20 year old providers who don't need creams, know how to dye their hair themselves, have teeth which don't need whitening and don't need gym membership.

-Then there's the cost of lingerie, stockings (and hosiery that doesn't "run", has yet to be invented!), stilettos, hot little dresses/skirts, jewelry, costumes... sexy attire in general. None of this is at a bargain because manufacturers prey on us. There's a hefty price for the bra and panty set existing outside the traditional white cotton realm. This costs that $400 a-plenty.

Shop for panties at Walmart. Save Money. Live Better.

-Props, toys, and enhancers of any sort are costly and require routine replacement, cleaning, and upkeep. ...Candles, refreshments, etc. How much of that $400 do we even have left?

LOL no toys requested from this hobbyist.

--Doctor's visits/routine checkups are not only taxing to the lady without corporate fringe-benefits, but likewise a challenge to finagle while maintaining a low-profile for its ongoing consistency. You want to date disease-free ladies, don't you? $400 pays for these astronomical healthcare costs of routine checkups too.

Most providers can get on AHCCCS due to no official income. Let the government pay for your doctors visits.

---For some, an assistant is used to redirect inquiry implementations and screening. This frees up the large amounts of necessary time, otherwise required of the provider herself. This is generally a 30% fee, taken from that $400.

Pimping ain't easy!

-Drivers? Another 30% or more...

Again, pimpin ain't easy!

--I'm not sure how the agencies assess their fees, also deducted from this $400, but you can bet it's substantial.

They want to be husters!

---There's the cost of the Internet required/data usage... supplemental cell phones or separate business lines to run things smoothly. Usually, anyone who runs a business separates the home and work phone lines, as they generally have a life outside their professional realm, just as any of you do. Subtract this from the $400, if there's anything left...

Umm... Metro PCS $25/month plan under a fake name no id required.

--Though for some, it is screening that inclines one to seek the companionship of those offering lower rates. Of course this doesn't apply to all providers at $200/hr, but in all honesty, the greater her rates, the tighter her security protocol, generally.

Whatever any hobbyist who gives out personal info is a moron.
And picking her up and taking her to a secure location you prevent tails from attacking the provider and you and you loose government agents, as well.

-- Modified on 1/29/2016 9:17:26 PM

Kelsi See my TER Reviews 652 reads

posted 9 years ago

7 / 62

Re: Overpriced?

Posted By: AlfredHotcock

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Nothing set me off. This is not a battle so there's nothing in which to give a rest... nothing to get off my chest.

For those who seem incapable of justifying the cost to be an escort, this is simply an overview.

The $200 reference is but an example, for the sake of comparison to the $400 reference.

True... most modern women DO incur most of these expenses... just not as frequently or religiously.

The 30% thing... I personally don't have an assistant or a driver (or even a housekeeper). Just merely pointing out that some do and there's a fee for it that would otherwise tie up much of their time. Likewise, traveling to an outcall by driver is an expense for some that wouldn't otherwise be necessary for the avg 9-5er (who would then manage cheaper transportation within a set routine).

Regarding cleanliness, I randomly hear feedback about the condition of other providers' incalls. I'm stating here that it takes constant maintenance (excessive time/effort or money) to keep our places looking equivalent to check in time at a reputable hotel... ALL the time. If you fail to take out the trash or let the dishes lapse after dinner, you're not being judged or reviewed upon by your guests for the lack of thorough consistency. We are.

I never said life is bad... and certainly, I'm grateful for my health and the means to these things... these things which we spend far more money upon than the avg modern woman. I'm only explaining for what some seem oblivious to regarding the overhead involved with our profession. If you're feeling defensive about it in any way, then this likely applies to you

Kelsi See my TER Reviews 669 reads

posted 9 years ago

8 / 62

Re: You should be embrassed

Posted By: gymratguy

Silly stupid post, I've been with 1000's of pieces of ass and known are worth more than 200-250 an hour.

Hmmm... I should be embarrassed? You funny.

AlfredHotcock 24 Reviews 534 reads

posted 9 years ago

9 / 62

Re: Overpriced?

Posted By: Kelsi

Posted By: AlfredHotcock

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Nothing set me off. This is not a battle so there's nothing in which to give a rest... nothing to get off my chest.

For those who seem incapable of justifying the cost to be an escort, this is simply an overview.

The $200 reference is but an example, for the sake of comparison to the $400 reference.

True... most modern women DO incur most of these expenses... just not as frequently or religiously.

The 30% thing... I personally don't have an assistant or a driver (or even a housekeeper). Just merely pointing out that some do and there's a fee for it that would otherwise tie up much of their time. Likewise, traveling to an outcall by driver is an expense for some that wouldn't otherwise be necessary for the avg 9-5er (who would then manage cheaper transportation within a set routine).

Regarding cleanliness, I randomly hear feedback about the condition of other providers' incalls. I'm stating here that it takes constant maintenance (excessive time/effort or money) to keep our places looking equivalent to check in time at a reputable hotel... ALL the time. If you fail to take out the trash or let the dishes lapse after dinner, you're not being judged or reviewed upon by your guests for the lack of thorough consistency. We are.

I never said life is bad... and certainly, I'm grateful for my health and the means to these things... these things which we spend far more money upon than the avg modern woman. I'm only explaining for what some seem oblivious to regarding the overhead involved with our profession. If you're feeling defensive about it in any way, then this likely applies to you.

Nice try, trying to put me on the defensive with your last sentence. But the cost break down is not news to a lot of hobbyists on here. The stereotype of the hobbyist is a mid- to late-career businessman. To anyone that applies to, we've all had to review financials and at least learn about cost accounting, if not end up knee deep in it.

The trap many small business owners fall into is believing they can do cost a "cost plus" model to determine their selling price- add up their costs, tack on the profit they want to make, and there's your price. Then they don't do well. They are calculating the wrong direction.

The correct approach is to determine the price point you need to meet, THEN control your costs so you make the profit you need. If someone can't do this, they need to find something else to do.

You have clarified that you don't incur a lot of avoidable costs. That's great. But stating others do have those costs and we should consider it- I'll respectfully disagree. You figured out how to control your costs- they should too. The free market doesn't pay extra to those who don't.

Cheers

gamesbond 17 Reviews 526 reads

posted 9 years ago

10 / 62

This is The Age Old Quesiton

Price and how to justify it. It seems very simple to me to understand. Hobbyist know what their disposable income is and how much they can justify spending on this "hobby". Choose your Lady based on your available funds. Be whatever their price range. Just my 2 cents.

gymratguy 41 Reviews 605 reads

posted 9 years ago

11 / 62

Re: You should be embrassed

Full disclosure, I left the mainstream hobby a few years ago because of the lack of quality providers. I've spent my time assisting ASU undergrads that need a few bucks for books, extra's and shopping. It's way more rewardable being a SD and the girls are 10x''s hotter....

Buddy2012 17 Reviews 515 reads

posted 9 years ago

12 / 62

this post was ridiculous...

it comes across as you trying to shame hobbyists for not seeing you at YOUR price point. Simple question, if and when you have run a special, did you get more or less appointments and did you make more money in the end

2308037 11 Reviews 615 reads

posted 9 years ago

13 / 62

Why?

I guess I am wondering what the motivation was for this post? People don't just post all of this for no reason. Something must have motivated it? Do some guys complain about high prices? Are too many asking for discounts?

My perspective is simple economics. Providers should charge what they believe is a proper rate for them relative to their expenses and value. Hobbyists make their own decisions as to whether or not that is a rate he is willing to pay.

From my perspective I don't like to ask for discounts. This means that I won't see some providers simply because of my own financial limitations. I would like to see some because they seem amazing (like you Kelsi

I suspect some providers have rates for a number of reasons: it filters out some guys, it maintains an image of exclusivity or prominence, they have worked to earn their own well deserved reputation, or they offer more, as you said. All of that is fine with me. I don't believe I have the right to determine that value for any provider. I do have the right to avail myself of their services or not, however.

Truth be told I generally feel honored when a woman spends time with me and does her best to make it a great time. I have met some amazing women and am grateful.

MILFKelly See my TER Reviews 557 reads

posted 9 years ago

14 / 62

Re: this post was ridiculous...

No other providers chimed in, I'm surprised. I have always had to pay my own way and I am all woman, so I love all the girly shit. I have been dirt poor and a baller both. But trruthfully I have never made the kind of money ever like I can in the hobby! The necessities are just that and most of them I've always had to have. My incall which is a g a month is part of my overhead but guarantee that this 200 an hr girl is making bank even after all the overhead is paid out. I by no means make too much but by no means am I queen of everything!! I take care of my family of 5 and I do what I want and I never go hungry so I am very fortunate indeed. I am also very grateful to be in the business and to have my own business. I never dreamed of that while I was making 10 an hr in a call center struggling like no other to take care of my family! So in a nut shell I thought another providers opinion on debt and escorting should be heard. I offer a great time for a very reasonable fee. I do very well for my independent self. I am also very grateful to those who make it all possible. Which I think reflects in my rates and my services. I don't think anyone owes me a thing and visa verca. Even this silly explanation. But I wouldn't complain or rant about a lack of funds or lack of understanding for high prices. If you want it and can afford it come and get it I got it!!!! Or chuck it in the fuck it bucket and move on. That's all. Life is way too short, people are way too shitty and negativity is a spore that is highly contagious. Positivity is better for our health hopefully rubs off on others and makes you grateful for even the small stuff and in the end it's all small stuff.

MILFKelly See my TER Reviews 581 reads

posted 9 years ago

15 / 62

Re: Why?

Well stated. Perfectly true and stated like a true gentleman.

gamesbond 17 Reviews 439 reads

posted 9 years ago

16 / 62

Re: this post was ridiculous...

Posted By: MILFKelly

Well said Kelly

tt85003 121 Reviews 453 reads

posted 9 years ago

17 / 62

I'd love me some more MILF Kelly

Never had a bad day with her

Kelsi See my TER Reviews 488 reads

posted 9 years ago

18 / 62

Really? Then why may I ask are you still here?

Posted By: gymratguy

...I quit hanging out at the arcade back in the day, when I got my first Xbox.

Nonetheless, some hobbyists actually prefer more of a date, you know, with actual conversation and such. But if that's your mentality then knock yourself out, 20 yo's are hot indeed! Some of them anyway. And there are hot mature ladies who have better bodies than some 20 yo's, and an intriguing intellect. It's just a matter of preference really. But if you're getting everything you need from the 20 yo students as a SD, I can't imagine what would draw you back to this community... ESPECIALLY if they're way hotter.

Kelsi See my TER Reviews 492 reads

posted 9 years ago

19 / 62

Re: Overpriced?

Thank you for the lesson in finance and marketing... Well put. I have 2 years left on my BS in Business Communications, with all my business courses out of the way, but I'm always looking for new dynamics. I just assume each of us set our rates according to the business model we each need to follow for success. That includes the costs of individual resources, which is going to be different for all. ...Same reason for a difference in price reflection for the candle shop in Queens, vs the one in Manhattan... in this example, monthly leasing rates.

Kelsi See my TER Reviews 402 reads

posted 9 years ago

20 / 62

Re: Why?

Well put. And yes, the motivation for this accidental shit-storm comes from the fact that virtually every time I run a special, the guy says he would never have seen me had I NOT offered a discount... which brings me to your other point of certain rates being a filter - so true.

Kelsi See my TER Reviews 384 reads

posted 9 years ago

21 / 62

I appreciate your insight.

You have a tactful way of disagreeing with me without being a jerk or embarrassing yourself with material you know nothing about... because obviously you do know, though we have different perspectives.

Kelsi See my TER Reviews 367 reads

posted 9 years ago

22 / 62

Re: this post was ridiculous...

I've always had a hard time with keeping my posts short. Likewise, finding a tone that matches my intent has always been a challenge when I write. This is probably why I'm often misunderstood, especially with readers who immediately make up their minds about me, while never even reading the whole post. ...Then reply before they know the whole story. And that is why I generally won't talk about politics... I usually don't know enough about them to make a valid point. Not saying you're of the ones who don't know what they're talking about...

This whole topic stems from most of those I meet when running specials, who claim we wouldn't meet otherwise. Now that's bold. And while I usually do make more when offering an incentive, I have to see more guys to do it and with the guys who make that statement, this just suggests that the quality of clientele is lessor than my targeted market. Rate thresholds are an automatic filter for reducing the quantity and raising the quality. And I'm sure that statement will cause the full-on train wreck of this post.

But I don't ever shame any Hobbyists for who they afford, unlike the ones who shame me with their statement mentioned above.

Kelsi See my TER Reviews 460 reads

posted 9 years ago

23 / 62

Re: Overpriced

ot only would I be embarrassed to ask a gentleman to come get me, but married men don't generally have the resources for such audacity. But even if they were to go to a hotel, who pays for it? A gentleman wouldn't dream of having her pay... so now suddenly it's no longer 2 or 250, unless they're teaching different math than what you and I learned. And I'm sorry, but for me a motel is out. I would never invite anyone into such standards... therefore I wouldn't expect this from anyone else either, though I get the feeling it wouldn't matter to you, and that's fine.

Yeah, I used to be a sun-goddess when I first moved to this climate, but that got old real fast. It takes 10 min for front and back in the quality beds. It takes 1 hour for front and back in the baking sun, and then you've got tan lines. My dilemma though.

And face cream my dear, is what keeps the 20 yo looking good as she matures, so I guarantee she uses it. Are you sure you're qualified to discuss the daily beauty rituals of women?

FYI, I DO color my own hair b/c I can't stand to sit in the salon for that long... that's what's wrong with it (Haha!). But I promise there's a distinguishable difference from the works of a salon to the DIY home kit. For starters you need a cosmetology license to buy the good products. What is made avail to the otherwise public is inferior.

I'm not even going to dignify the panties at Walmart remark, if you don't already know the difference... again, a topic you seem under-qualified in to argue.

Suggesting that we get on welfare to cover the cost of our medical... now there's some sound advice for the capable work-force! Just who do you think pays for the welfare budget, that they're getting ready to cut AGAIN... of those who actually need it (well, most of them anyway)? And myself, I honestly don't know one escort on AHCCCS.

Now here's a sight to see... if I have to explain to you all the reasons why it's not a good idea for a hooker to take the bus, then I'd be wasting my energy on a mentality I could never reach.

And as I mentioned before, married men don't always have the resources (mainly time) to pick up a lady and go elsewhere. And I'm curious if you've ever even done this yourself, Mr 'I give out false screening info'

Kelsi See my TER Reviews 347 reads

posted 9 years ago

24 / 62

Right? -eom

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Dave76015 38 Reviews 434 reads

posted 9 years ago

25 / 62

Interesting post.

Whether it has been three evenings at the Phoenician on a summer deal with someone from out of state, to an hour at a local MP, I've always paid the rates asked.

If you are referring to responses from out of towners visiting the auto auctions, or local asshats giving you grief, please give a bit more information. Sometimes, the source of discourse gives insights to the reasoning behind it. And there are times, you have to tell potential customers "Loose my phone number".

It certainly seems there is a bit of built up pressure being expressed in the post. Why? IDK. Is it my business why? No.

Lord knows I've been guilty of ethanol-fueled internet postings over the years. Some have led to sad results, but oh well. The price of exercising free will and free speech.

All I can say, is different businesses have break-even points. You deal with Fixed costs and variable costs. We've never met, so I cannot refer to specifics in your business model.

I know you've been a consistent presence in our neighborhood, and wish you nothing but the best.

Cheers!

emilypaige See my TER Reviews 566 reads

posted 9 years ago

26 / 62

Anal bleaching

Forgot that one Kelsi!
I don't know many women outside the hobby that spring the $100 to keep the Greece port illuminated.

Probably not a lot of providers chimed in because posting about rates here is equivalent to posting your political opinions on Facebook. No one is going to change their opinion.

Thanks for taking the time to write the break down. Some valuable information was in this thread.

I now know I should stop paying taxes so I can get government health care.

Thank you for the offer to pay for our health care! We love you

gymratguy 41 Reviews 421 reads

posted 9 years ago

27 / 62

Re: Really? Then why may I ask are you still here?

What? I can't stop in here and read post from the cynical, disgruntled, hapless and sad?

Conversion? I spend a whole day or evening with these ladies for what most get for an hour. we laugh, eat, shop, hold hands flirt and then rock each others world.

Although, I wish you the best as she enter the backside and downside of your career

Dave76015 38 Reviews 407 reads

posted 9 years ago

28 / 62

Re: Anal bleaching: Ohh Myy!

I did not know that existed. Learned something new.

Kelsi See my TER Reviews 511 reads

posted 9 years ago

29 / 62

Re: Anal bleaching

Shah!

Thanx Em... I totally forgot about the Michael Jackson Makeover (yes, my humor is dreadful too)! Or any cosmetic enhancements for that matter... like my breast reduction (haha, yeah right!). Bet the 20 yo's don't have to restore the back door just yet. Be grateful now young hotties... according to some 'boared' skeptics (that's bored board), another 20 yrs and you'll have one foot in the grave too!

No wonder at all why more ladies "didn't chime in"... unpopularity is a lonely island. At least it shares a port with the isles, Misunderstood and Oh No She Dittn't. No one ever said I was the shiniest knife in the drawer...

Kelsi See my TER Reviews 373 reads

posted 9 years ago

30 / 62

Re: Really? Then why may I ask are you still here?

I see. Well an optimistic linguistic stud such as yourself... sounds like I could never handle a keeper like you anyway, so you rock on Dirk Diggler! My tragic loss.

micktoz 43 Reviews 344 reads

posted 9 years ago

31 / 62

Re: Anal bleaching

Best comment on the board for ages

emilypaige See my TER Reviews 345 reads

posted 9 years ago

32 / 62

Michael Jackson probably felt like an asshole most of the time (e)

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Kelsi See my TER Reviews 345 reads

posted 9 years ago

33 / 62

pffffft! Small price to pay, feeling like an asshole to feel some asshole - PYT! -eom

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gypsypooner2015 3 Reviews 364 reads

posted 9 years ago

34 / 62

Re: Why?

eep those high roller married men busy Kelsi who don't have time to pick up providers and drive them to a secure location, we don't want them raising the rates of the cheaper younger providers

gypsypooner2015 3 Reviews 426 reads

posted 9 years ago

35 / 62

Re: Really? Then why may I ask are you still here?

There is enough space on the poon boards for innovative hobbyists who have branched out to the sugar daddy system

ki.wan 76 Reviews 383 reads

posted 9 years ago

36 / 62

Overpriced?

This is an interesting post. Although I am not sure what Kelsi was trying to accomplish but I understand her point of view. Personally I don't think a provider should worry about what she is charging as long as she is happy with it. If you are in Los Angeles or New York city, you can probably charge $1000 an hour and be very successful at it. Obviously it is little different in the Valley. It's your business, charge whatever you want (as long as you can find clients that will pay for it) and screw the rest. It's not my business to tell a provider she is overpriced or underpriced. If I can afford it and you are my type, that's all that matters to me!
By the way, you're gorgeous! I missed the last time you came up to Flagstaff. Please let me know if you come up this way again

gypsypooner2015 3 Reviews 359 reads

posted 9 years ago

37 / 62

Re: Really? Then why may I ask are you still here?

If the government wants us to stop seeing providers I know how it would work. My personal 20 year old blonde sugar baby who is providing bbfs for me only with a reasonable rate would definitely keep me seeing her and not providers.

Posted By: gypsypooner2015

There is enough space on the poon boards for innovative hobbyists who have branched out to the sugar daddy system.

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North701 5 Reviews 425 reads

posted 9 years ago

38 / 62

Re: Overpriced?

At the end of the day, the price of a good or service isn't set by its cost to produce but by what people are willing to pay for it. Because we all value goods and services differently, its not surprising that some folks aren't willing to pay a premium if they personally don't value the service.

That's one of the things I like about this hobby. Its fair market st it'd finest. If both parties agree, everyone walks away happy. If you value your time more then a prospective client does, you get to walk away and its his loss.

What's weird to me though is they this is where people budget shop. Ive had mind blowing experiences for way less than I would have been willing to pay and mediocre service from some who are great in the add but mechanical or detached in person. That's why a small increase or drop in price is just part of trying it out for yourself

balljointnut 23 Reviews 342 reads

posted 9 years ago

39 / 62

Do you itemize all of that on your taxes? EOM.

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Kelsi See my TER Reviews 426 reads

posted 9 years ago

40 / 62

Seriously?

The 1099 is tricky filing, but there's no reason not to use it to your advantage where breaks are concerned. For example, you can write off various categories the govt considers valuable to consumers, such as "bbbj", "dfk", "d&d free", "cfs", and "non-refundable travel deposit required", and these are just a few examples. Just make sure you log everything accordingly and always print out receipts for any itemizations, obviously. See your local sex-worker tax consultant for more details.

Kelsi See my TER Reviews 313 reads

posted 9 years ago

41 / 62

That's enough out of you... go lay by your dish. -eom

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Ralf511822 28 Reviews 402 reads

posted 9 years ago

42 / 62

Re: Seriously?

Now that is funny!! eom

gypsypooner2015 3 Reviews 325 reads

posted 9 years ago

43 / 62

Re: Seriously?

So you ought to provide some free services to disadvantaged hobbyists then you can deduct that from your adjusted gross income.

Posted By: Kelsi

tt85003 121 Reviews 398 reads

posted 9 years ago

44 / 62

Re: Seriously? LOL

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tt85003 121 Reviews 408 reads

posted 9 years ago

45 / 62

well we'ii add to this post a litt;e more.

Seriously $300 to $400 is no way overpriced in time and age. if it is then you .take up bowling of golf. But it all depends on what the lady offers, Does she have a nice room, shower clean towels maybe a drink or two. A little chat time to get to know each other and brake the ice, I'm sure Kelsi offers all this and more and if you treat her right you may just be in for a little surprise.

Now if this not what you want take your busy to back page

gypsypooner2015 3 Reviews 414 reads

posted 9 years ago

46 / 62

Re: well we'ii add to this post a litt;e more.

Good point. I did prior to the stings enjoy meeting in nice hotel rooms. Rooms I would never myself rent but being in them for a short period allowed me to check them out at least and maybe enjoy the ambiance that I otherwise would have never gotten to.

Posted By: tt85003

azguy789 28 Reviews 388 reads

posted 9 years ago

47 / 62

Re: You should be embrassed

How would i become a sd down in tucson? You cant just walk up to a chick and ask.

not2bad13 88 Reviews 441 reads

posted 9 years ago

48 / 62

Fail

LOL. Your post is pretty funny. I love how you try to justify your expenses. Fail.

Dave76015 38 Reviews 298 reads

posted 9 years ago

49 / 62

Hehehe!! EOhhMyy.

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Kelsi See my TER Reviews 358 reads

posted 9 years ago

50 / 62

Re: Fail

Posted By: not2bad13

LOL. Your post is pretty funny. I love how you try to justify your expenses. Fail.

Posted By: not2bad13

LOL. Your post is pretty funny. I love how you try to justify your expenses. Fail.

Funny how you justify your own defenses, seemingly created by this post, in attempting to disqualify me of my own fiscal structure, as if it were all a delusion.

85% of you know nothing about the expense realm consuming the women in your own household, let alone those mandatory for an escort (and those 15% see no relevance in snubbing me)... and I'm not talking the Walmart panty-buying example of an escort , as suggested in an earlier idiot-resolution reply. So then since you have to gas your car anyway, don't you dare justify its mileage for YOUR work commute.

Actually... bust (or "fail"... whatever you prefer to call it). You got me the jig is up... I'm not even a grown-up! I got here on my Big Wheels and I blow all the proceeds on bubble gum and cool laser lights for my ride - NOT housing or utilities, clothing or gasoline, insurance or phone, family medical bills or veterinarians, auto maintenance or repair, food or student loans, or for that matter, ANY of the hobbies, bells and whistles and whatever else you adults squander away your salary on - just gum, sidewalk chalk (for my ads), and groovy lights. Oh, and the occasional lunch box since mommy won't buy me any more ('cause I keep forgetting 'em at school!).

Kelsi See my TER Reviews 389 reads

posted 9 years ago

51 / 62

Re: Seriously?

Posted By: gypsypooner2015

So you ought to provide some free services to disadvantaged hobbyists then you can deduct that from your adjusted gross income.

Well see now you're sending mixed signals b/c I would think no one "disadvantaged" would want anything to do with me, judging by all your crass comments.

Regardless, I thought I told you to go lay by your dish?

Kelsi See my TER Reviews 364 reads

posted 9 years ago

52 / 62

Just as I'm sure she sees only you, being that it's

Posted By: gypsypooner2015

There is enough space on the poon boards for innovative hobbyists who have branched out to the sugar daddy system.

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"bbfs" and all... so I'm sure you're the only one (I forget she's just a naive college girl... inexperienced... you've prolly gotten her pretty well trained by now...).

Kelsi See my TER Reviews 379 reads

posted 9 years ago

53 / 62

I guess you just start creepin' around UofA and maybe you'll get lucky before you get arre... -eom

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Kelsi See my TER Reviews 287 reads

posted 9 years ago

54 / 62

That one was ALL sarcasm, to clear up any confusion -eom

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balljointnut 23 Reviews 278 reads

posted 9 years ago

55 / 62

Clearly you don't know much about taxes

or you would be using Schedule A for your deductions with your 1040. Do you even know what a 1099 is? It certainly isn't for write-offs.

gypsypooner2015 3 Reviews 357 reads

posted 9 years ago

56 / 62

Re: I guess you just start creepin' around UofA and maybe you'll get lucky before you get arre...

Just register for a one hour class that way if you are a student you can't be banned from campus and no criminal penalties for creepiness!

Posted By: Kelsi

Kelsi See my TER Reviews 408 reads

posted 9 years ago

57 / 62

Re: Clearly you don't know much about dry humor / a 1099 is for private contractors to report incom

tard.

Kelsi See my TER Reviews 349 reads

posted 9 years ago

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Re: Clearly you don't know much about taxes

Posted By: balljointnut

or you would be using Schedule A for your deductions with your 1040. Do you even know what a 1099 is? It certainly isn't for write-offs.

...But maybe your advice could help point me in the right direction... I'm still waiting for my w-2s to come in the mail... ??

When are they gonna' GET here!?!

gypsypooner2015 3 Reviews 250 reads

posted 9 years ago

59 / 62

Re: I hesitated to respond

Looks like this girl is a Kelsi apprentice:

http://phoenix.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/dear-backpage/37311821

"I've added a few pictures of how some of u men think u can treat a woman like me! I'm not a 60-100 call and never will be. "

gypsypooner2015 3 Reviews 218 reads

posted 9 years ago

60 / 62

Re: wtf... Is wrong with you

Of course I don't condone violence. But it sounds like the proletariat is rising up against high prices.

Posted By: MissChloeHills

There's a massive difference between what this thread is about and what you just posted. What you just posted is awful. She is clearly being threatened violence by some creep and being verbally abused and you think it's funny? What is wrong with you.

gypsypooner2015 3 Reviews 230 reads

posted 9 years ago

61 / 62

Re: wtf... Is wrong with you

I wonder how much she got for this video:

https://www.peekvids.com/watch?v=eE0Sx0MlXrO

Tyrion 3 Reviews 262 reads

posted 9 years ago

62 / 62

Re: wtf... Is wrong with you

What does that have to do with anything being discussed here? Seems like you something against this woman...

Could those have been your texts she posted? Maybe just a kindred spirit.

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