Phoenix

Re: Words To A Jury, During opening Statement
tvlaw 58 Reviews 548 reads
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Absolutely! If a young lady appears even close to under age, an adult is responsible to verify age. The language is " had knowledge or, should have had knowledge." Moreover, many people have selective memory when asked by a prosecutor. Not to say they would coach them or put words in their mouth. Haha What a joke. In a case like suggested, they would be more interested in convicting the hobbyist and especially a pimp if there was one involved, than the underage young lady. Good luck asking a young lady for ID.

maxwell44 23 Reviews 443 reads
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2 / 6

I would say that if you ever find yourself in the company of anyone who isn't 18, then RUN the hell out of there, don't walk.  

And even if she really is over 18, if she says she is underage, then again, RUN, don't walk out of there.  Read ARS 13-3212(C) to see exactly how they busted the CEO from Wild Oats with an undercover cop who was in her 30s, who tricked him at the last second into thinking he might have been with an underage prostitute (and all she said is that she wasn't old enough to buy cigarettes).  His mistake was that he didn't immediately get the hell out of there.  Her BP ad said that she was 18, and up until she said that cigarette remark, he believed that she really was 18.  After spending $100k on lawyers, he still couldn't beat the felony charges against him.  They got him on a class 2 felony which is pretty much in the same category as if he had committed a 2nd degree murder, and they would have given him more than 10 years in prison too if he went to trial.

I put a link below to the applicable law that shows how screwed someone will be if they ever get caught with an underage prostitute.   Read the law too, especially section B, paragraph 3.  You don't even have to know that the prostitute is underage.  If she is in fact underage, you are finished.  If her ID says that she is 18 but she is really 17, you are finished.  There is no language here about  "had knowledge or, should have had knowledge" in the law.  What words are put in anybody's mouth are completely irrelevant.  
Posted By: tvlaw
Absolutely! If a young lady appears even close to under age, an adult is responsible to verify age. The language is " had knowledge or, should have had knowledge." Moreover, many people have selective memory when asked by a prosecutor. Not to say they would coach them or put words in their mouth. Haha What a joke. In a case like suggested, they would be more interested in convicting the hobbyist and especially a pimp if there was one involved, than the underage young lady. Good luck asking a young lady for ID.

tvlaw 58 Reviews 494 reads
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3 / 6

You have provided good advice to run The hell out of there. I think you were confused about my statement, "had knowledge or should have had knowledge." I don't know how many cases you have tried, these words are often used by a prosecutor in their opening argument.  Thanks for your post!

maxwell44 23 Reviews 339 reads
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4 / 6

Glad to help with the discussion.  And although I haven't tried any criminal cases myself, I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.  :)

Posted By: tvlaw
You have provided good advice to run The hell out of there. I think you were confused about my statement, "had knowledge or should have had knowledge." I don't know how many cases you have tried, these words are often used by a prosecutor in their opening argument.  Thanks for your post!
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tvlaw 58 Reviews 398 reads
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5 / 6

Haha! I hope you had a great time!! You are pretty sharp maybe you missed your calling...

Dave76015 38 Reviews 354 reads
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