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Re: Risky business
VictoriaOfAz 2624 reads
posted
1 / 20

This one is probably going to get me in trouble,but just needed to ask anyway...how can you screen or let it be known beforehand that you preference is to see only men that are not BI or that do not see TS girls, recently I had a client and when I checked his reviews there were several TS reviews, for health reasons this makes me very uncomfortable. Any sugestions on how to let a client know beforehand other than stating it on your profile? I am not anti gay but just prefer my men to play for one team only....V

Dingus15 8 Reviews 2576 reads
posted
2 / 20

who play for both teams......I see it in PM's and have had guys ask to have TS reviews taken from their accounts....because providers won't see them....

The bottom line is you have to do what you are comfortable with.

D15

AZ Terri See my TER Reviews 1887 reads
posted
3 / 20

have asked the question about providers that shut the door in their face when they find out their black...

I've said it before...If you have a certain sector that you won't see you have to let them know up front...they'll just move on! Then you're not faced with embarrassing either on of you!

Don't you have on your 411 ad "Please no one under 30 and NO couples???????

You just need to add whatever else you won't see.

-- Modified on 5/6/2007 10:44:44 AM

neversoft52 1836 reads
posted
4 / 20

It is a risky business from both sides. I'd rather see a provider that is "careful" than not. During the "screen" process, however you do it, just be up front about it. Most guys will mark that down and move on to the next choice. No big thing.

VictoriaOfAz 1399 reads
posted
5 / 20

This is something that is not discussed over the phone during screening the less said the better about the date in general. I think Terri is right I will add it to my list of NO's although that does not always work couples still call and men under 30 still do even when it is in black and white ......Victoria

bobb3950 8 Reviews 2103 reads
posted
6 / 20

Victoria,

Put it in writing on your web site and any adds you have.

Then stick to it.
There will always be those who will not pay any attention and ignore your "NO" list.

You do what you feel comfortable with and stick to it.
If it is a big issue with you, make a point of mentioning it during your conversations or emails and make sure you check their history.
You are under no obligation to do anything or see anyone you don't feel good about.

Just my opinion...
B

not secure 2484 reads
posted
7 / 20

I agree with everyone else; if you are uncomfortable, then be honest and open about it.  Put it down on your website.  This is a two way street, either guys will see you or move on.   And I applaud you for being honest.  I wish a lot of the women I see stated the same because that's how I feel too.

BBWkiersten44FF 2402 reads
posted
8 / 20

yes he is right. You have no idea who they have seen before you. What about guys that saw a TS but never wrote a review about it? The point is you have no idea when you go see a client who or what he has done in his past. This is why you protect yourself. This business is one big risk and if you want to continue to be an escort you will continue to take risks. Who's to say that a TS is more risky than a hetero or vice versa?

BBWkiersten44FF 2495 reads
posted
9 / 20

But that is the funny thing...they can't lie about what color or nationality they are but they CAN lie about their age and if they have seen a TS provider. Seriously when we see a guy there is no way of knowing what odd ritualistic fantasies he has played out...lol All kidding aside, there is no way of knowing! it shouldn't matter though, this is not your life-time partner or boyfriend or anything, so who cares. he keeps your lights on, a roof over your head and food in your belly so keep escorting just do it safely every time!

tt85003 121 Reviews 1757 reads
posted
10 / 20

If someone makes you uncomfortable just tell them to move along. I’m sure many hobbyists feel the same way about who they see.

DonnaNextDoor See my TER Reviews 1541 reads
posted
11 / 20

Let's see....a guy has seeen a TS and been freaky.... I would think that one of the two would have the where-with-all to make sure it was safe? You will see guys all day long and do BBBJ or at least kiss???? But not worry about herpes? The point is that there is risk in anything. What we do most of all! use common sense.
How about another scenario????? Guy likes greek.... has done it with all the girls that offer it in town... Is that any safer?? Think about it. If your offended by something someone asks, tell them. If you are offended by something someone else does keep it to yourself. But don't judge them. I don't do greek but I know lots of ladies who do and you need to think about what you just asked. I have guys I turn down all the time because of stupid things they ask or do but not because they saw any particular type of provider. ALWAY BE SAFE. You know what I mean. Does anybody disagree?

DonnaNextDoor See my TER Reviews 1608 reads
posted
12 / 20
Andi Ryan See my TER Reviews 1631 reads
posted
13 / 20

What about what the gentlemen do outside of the hobby? Many have healthy sex lives with civvies, too so if you're trying to see a fella who is "safe" in your eyes, it's probably time to retire because there is no such thing as 100% safe except abstinence. It's unfortunate but true. Just have to decide what you're comfortable with and go on with it. But just because a gent hasn't seen a TS provider doesn't mean he hasn't seen a TS or had gay experiences outside of the hobby. In fact, I think Female on Female sex is probably the least safe of all because it's fairly impossible not to protect yourself unless you're using a Dental Dam or some other barrier and most don't to my knowledge. It really is all in what you're willing to risk, but screening out gents with TS reviews doesn't mean you're not seeing men who haven't had gay or TS experiences.

Andi

DonnaNextDoor See my TER Reviews 2228 reads
posted
14 / 20

So times it all times infinity... It is risky no matter what. the point is that none of us know what we are getting. let's all just protect ourselves. Do what we deem necessary and take the precautions we need to. You have made a great point. But it is risky regardless.

Andi Ryan See my TER Reviews 1916 reads
posted
15 / 20

I didn't mean for that to look like I was responding to you, I just hit the reply button. It's been so long since I've really posted anything at all it just didn't dawn on me how it would look. :)

But I agree nonetheless, sex is risky in this day and age. All we can do is use protection and lube and do everything we (men and women both) can to minimize our personal risks. We should be using protection for BJ's and DATY just as we do for penetration. The two most prevalent STD's are Chlamydia and Genital herpes. Both can be prevented with the use of protection. One can be gotten rid of with antibiotics (Chlamydia) and the other will never go away.

So, let's all respect ourselves and each other enough to use protection and minimize risky behavior all the way around.

Love,

Andi

BBWkiersten44FF 1835 reads
posted
16 / 20

I could not have said it better again none of us know where anyone has been exactly! Play it safe at all times never trust anyone on their word! I agree with you 100% donna and wow great examples!

WebTerrorist 1575 reads
posted
17 / 20

If you actually look to the disease rates and statistics, Lesbians have the lowest incidence of all STIs of any group...and often when an STI is determined to have occurred in a lesbian coupling it  is found that one of the women involved is bisexual and the infection is traced back to an encounter with a male.

A simple fact, insertive sex carries a greater danger of infection then non-insertive sex, and the one receiving carries a greater danger than the one inserting.  So, in say, vaginal intercourse the woman is at greater risk of getting any infection the man might have than the man is of getting any infection the woman might have.  

This fact can lead to some of the reticence some ladies have about seeing men that have seen TS girls, as it is  possible that man was on the receiving end of "greek" and the giving end of a blowjob...making them the receptive partner of the insertive sex.  

Then you have to take into consideration the difference between semen and vaginal secretions.  Simply put, and this is very simplified, semen is specifically "designed" to sustain life, to keep the sperm alive and transport it to the egg for reproductive purposes, but it works very well at keeping bacterias and viruses alive as well.  

Vaginal secretions on the other hand, are designed to prevent things from getting into the uterus for the purpose of protecting a fetus that might be there...so things live less well in these, and that includes bacterias and viruses...those are the secretions, a side note is bacterial infections of the vagina itself (dark moist places grow stuff).

As to the original post and the mention of TS reviews, you can't trust that just because a man doesn't have reviews of TS girls that he hasn't seen any, and he may even review them, but simply do so under another username...it is one of the few situations under which TER does allow for a second username to write reviews.

Then of course is the possibility that a TS Girl does not advertise as such...and TER has been known to withhold reviews that state she is.  (see link below).

Best advice to not wanting what is presumed to be a greater risk (and since statistics do show highest rates of STIs amongst gay males, which they include TS girls in that category...and of the subcategories of "gay males" TS Girls do have the reportedly the highest rates of STIs, it isn't unrealistic to think it a greater risk) is to be as safe as possible with each encounter and each client...as if you play "safer" then the risk becomes less whether the client has something or not.

In defense of professional TS Girls, like the difference in safety and cleanliness between civvie women and ladies in this business , so there is a difference between civvie TS Girls and  those in this business.  Though there always are exceptions (read first post in thread linked to below, and if it is still there read the review where it mentions the TS in the review feeling comfortable with BB)....but then the exceptions happen on all sides.

AZ Terri See my TER Reviews 1234 reads
posted
18 / 20

Yes, they can lie, MOST Gentlemen will respect the issues at hand both color and age, I would imagine with TS aspect also...


My point is We have to be upfront about who we won't see...Saves the embarrassment for everyone. and as in the Ts aspect not much you can do about it, Except HE CERTAINLY WILL NOT GET A GOOD REFERENCE! I don't think he will take a chance on being outed as a liar....that is if he does reviews and in Vic case he did!

JUST BE UP FRONT...

anabangbang 2293 reads
posted
19 / 20

if you use a contact form, you could put up something like

your dating preference is:

a. females only
b. females and males
c. females, males, ts
d. females and ts
e. i'm a groupie
e. anything with a steady pulse

that way you're not ostracizing any particular part of society but you can weed out the ones you dont want, assuming they tell the truth and that could happen.

 maybe it just hurts their feelings to be excluded but i've found that they dont always just move on.  anytime i have stated i wont see "whoevers" i find that i actually get contacted by more of them because they want to challenge my reasons why and prove me wrong.  

some guys dont think we should have personal preferences since we're being paid and when we reject them within even "giving them a chance", they can get resentful and hostile.

i think the male/male and female/female teams are wonderful teams and i admire their courage and respect their choices but i dont like playing in that league either.  
its not just a health issue.

abaz 1263 reads
posted
20 / 20
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