Phoenix

Re: I think I can see what the problem might be...
sugardaddymike74 32 Reviews 1346 reads
posted
1 / 30

Alright so I am new to this sight, and I thought the idea was to give honest reviews so that other hobbyists could make better informed choices on the dates they chose, I recently posted a review of a girl that I thought was complimentary (honest though) and based on the TER number rules (7 being the highest unless certain things are performed) So I post this review and I have been getting contacted about the review by the provider saying it was negative and ruined her business. I am confused by this, I spoke about in the VIP section how I had a good time would see her again. So are the real numbers 10 - it is great, 9 good time, 8 pretty good, 7 so/so, 6 bad time? Or what...... A little help guys/gals? Thanks

AzPete11 27 Reviews 1011 reads
posted
2 / 30

Yes sir, one would think that it was up to us to be honest and keep our fellow hobbyest informed on our experiences with the gracious ladies that work hard at making us happy. Unfortunately, there are those providers that are a little sensative and take exception to certainn ratiings. I too recently was contacted by a young lady that was unhappy with one of my ratings.  I believed my review to be fair, honest, and spot on. I guess that is what makes each of us individuals and we can't always agree on everything. Keep doing what you believe to be fair and 9 out of 10 times things will be ok. Just my 2 cents worth.

baileym365 See my TER Reviews 948 reads
posted
3 / 30

Stand your ground, you did nothing wrong. It's about damn time hobbyists like you are giving honest reviews instead of this inflated bullshit you see.
 Everyone needs to be humbled now and then, in the long run it will make her a better provider. No matter how many clients ladies see in a day or week the quality bar should always be kept high.

clubjeffe 106 Reviews 908 reads
posted
4 / 30

write an honest review and you'll do just fine!  If she is worried that one review is going to ruin her business - she has much bigger issues to worry about.

p2kb4 82 Reviews 892 reads
posted
5 / 30

Your reviews are your reviews.  Write them as you see it.  If one reviews is going to hurt her business then she has many more problems than your review.

ShillBill 1013 reads
posted
6 / 30

check it out below. The escort score is based on what is offered, not what is performed.  Another thing you should know, if you want to see top rated providers, many NOT all, will check out your reviews before they decide to see you. If you tend to score on the "low" side, some providers will decline to see you. Doesn't mean you have to start tossing out 10/10 reviews, like they're candy, just means you have to be closer to the average score the provider has received.  

Remember, you can always use your "alias" to write a review. Also you have 90 days to submit the review.  So if you going to give less than a "stellar" review, to a provider you might consider using your alias and waiting awhile before you submit the review. That way she might not be able to figure out who wrote the less than stellar review.

Also, keep all the correspondence from the provider, especially the post review stuff, if you get in a pissing match with her, you'll have the emails/pm's to prove to TER that she harassed you.  

 
Nutballjoint is it ok I used my alias?

 
TER RULE 7
7.In order to keep our performance ratings consistent, we set up the following system: An escort provider is only eligible to earn up to a 7, unless she is willing to perform one or some of the following during a session: Kisses With Tongue, Bare-Back Blow Job, Really Bi, and Anal Sex, or More than One Guy. For each of these services that are offered, her potential max score is raised by one point, with 10 as an absolute maximum.

This does not mean she earns extra points for offering the service(s); just that she is now eligible for a higher score. Her maximum eligible score is based on what is offered, not what is performed during your session with her. You may or may not be interested in the “extra” services she offers, but the fact she offers them makes her eligible for the higher score

hellozona 17 Reviews 817 reads
posted
7 / 30

Sugardaddymike ... stand your ground, take a  look at my reviews, you can tell the ones that were protested by a provider and then TER took them down. In fact I just had a very terrible experience with initials "BB".
     A few years ago, I had a bad experience with one provider, wrote the review, she protested and TER said no. She went around it another way by sending some friends of hers showed up at the Strip club I was enjoying the "can you dance circuit" :) with weapons! I talked with TER and I had them pull it down. I don't think the provider is around anymore.

balljointnut 23 Reviews 966 reads
posted
8 / 30

You can do what ever you want. You have become irrelevant to me, but it is sweet of you to ask.

This does not mean she earns extra points for offering the service(s)

Her maximum eligible score is based on what is offered, not what is performed during your session with her,

Straight from rule 7. Am I the only one that sees the contradiction. Good Lor

Jeff_Spicoli 843 reads
posted
9 / 30

I generally operate under the delusional theory that my reviews should be an honest and accurate assessment of my experience on a given date.  Only twice in nearly 20 reviews have I given a 7 in one or both categories.   Both times, I was confronted on why I gave a poor review.  Once via PM and the other time on a discussion board.  

This is a massive slippery slope.  Many guys, after a bad experience either won't write a review or will scrub it of negatives for fear of retaliation.  Not to compare women to appliances, but what good would consumer report ratings be if the editors never said anything negative about GE appliances for fear of retaliation.   It would taint (pun intended) the whole basis/foundation for the reviews.  

Granted members can PM one another privately about their experiences with any ladies, but that is and end around and ignores the ongoing trend of pussification of the actual reviews.    

In my line of work, if I don't put forth the effort and get the desired results with the desired client service, I will get poor reviews or lose business.    Good reviews are not a right, not a privilege.

clubjeffe 106 Reviews 870 reads
posted
10 / 30

"This does not mean she earns extra points for offering the service(s); just that she is now eligible for a higher score"

the key word there is ELIGIBLE.  It does not say REQUIRED!

balljointnut 23 Reviews 906 reads
posted
11 / 30

While I mostly agree with you your use of an alias invalidates your opinion.

maxwell44 23 Reviews 857 reads
posted
12 / 30

Your review didn't hurt her business.  Besides, as you said, it was a good review anyway.  If she really wants to see a bad review, she should call Gordon Ramsay from Kitchen Nightmares.

Here is the situation on a "perfect 10".  To get a perfect 10, a provider really has to be that once in a lifetime kind of provider.  I mean it would have to be a PSE threesome with gratuitous unbridled carnality, new positions being offered every 3 minutes for the next 2 and a half hours, and then afterwards, she would need to cook you a nice meal.  If you ever have an experience like that, please give that one a 10.  That would set the standard for once in a lifetime, and everything else, no matter how awesome, would have to be less than 10.

Basic rule of thumb the way I do it, everything starts as a 7 if I was very happy with everything and would see her again.  Extra points are given for extra services as you mentioned earlier.  A 10 has to be once in a lifetime.  Subtract once point from 7 for anything that you weren't happy about.  If she gets a 5, then there are two issues you have with her, which isn't good.  If everybody did their ratings this way, they would all be accurate.  Obviously there are too many pussies around here who inflate their reviews just to avoid confrontation.  They are certainly not helping the community by doing that, nor are they even providing honest feedback to the provider.  A provider should have honest feedback in order to learn what she is doing wrong so that she can improve herself.  If she doesn't like what she is reading about herself and wants to argue about it, then she just hurt her own business all by herself, because you will never see her again.

Drumsticks 90 Reviews 837 reads
posted
13 / 30

...in all 4 of your reviews, based on your description of the activities, all of the providers should have been given at least a 9 for performance. The guidelines for performance ratings are laid out for you, they're objective but you didn't choose to follow them. Unfortunately, TER will bump a score down, but never up if the review description doesn't fit the guidelines. I've met two of the women that you have reviewed and I'm guessing that their attitude during the session was not an issue; they're both a pleasure to spend time with. One thing to keep in mind when you're rating providers is that most of the ladies you see are WAY out of your league. There's no way in Hell that you would have a chance to score with them in a regular civvie encounter so a little kindness, and objectivity should go a long way in your future encounters. Personally, I don't view you as a credible reviewer so far.  

Happy Hobbying!  :)

justdonebyu 3 Reviews 642 reads
posted
14 / 30

you approached it the right way. as an opportunity to improve..

Perfect is not obtainable. one guys 9 is anothers 10. if you break 9 consistently by honest reveiwers, you are fabulous! i can tell you the variety of opinions in this hobby on beauty is so scattered that there really is no baseline.

one guy might rate you a ten based on his emotional response and it would have nothing to do with your looks really.

clubjeffe 106 Reviews 818 reads
posted
15 / 30

You are so WRONG!!  

"based on your description of the activities, all of the providers should have been given at least a 9 for performance. The guidelines for performance ratings are laid out for you, they're objective but you didn't choose to follow them."    

Based on activities, they COULD have been ELIGIBLE for higher scores but there is no requirement to give that rating.  It looks like to me that he followed the guidelines correctly.  I read the rule #7 posted above and it seems pretty clear to me.

How can you blast him for rating two women that you are both familiar with lower than you did?  Every experience is unique to the individuals involved.  How dare you say that any of these women are out of his league?  Not everyone who plays in this game 'needs' to be here because of awkward social skills or unability to court beautiful women.  Hell, for all you know he could be a George Clooney double in both looks. charm and money!

Personally, I think that his review skills are just fine and consider him to be a more credible reviewer than a lot of guys that have more experience.

Maci_Grayston See my TER Reviews 676 reads
posted
16 / 30

If a reviewer scores you lower than the average of your other reviews, you can contact TER and ask that the review be pulled due to inconsistency...especially if you have 8's, 9's and 10's after the lower score.  

As stated in the TER Review Facts:
"MY REVIEW WAS REJECTED FOR BEING INCONSISTENT. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
This occurs when the reviewer pens a great review, yet gives the provider low performance ratings or vice versa. Also, if a well known provider who continually gets glowing reviews and high performance points is suddenly at an all time low, our suspicions as to the veracity of this review are aroused. We also use this term if the review states facts that other members have contradicted. The burden of proof is on the member who wrote the review."

On the other hand, if you know you have been slacking at the gym... as you already said, you can use the lower score as a kick in the butt to get back to your routine...

Honestly, I've done both...I PM'ed a reviewer once when I felt his score was too low and I've used the review system to improve my services. I don't think there is only one right answer that works in every situation..

sugardaddymike74 32 Reviews 816 reads
posted
17 / 30

Wow we are rather self righteous. I have no interest in you or your opinions, my reviews were objective based on services provided. How would you know if they are out of my league?  

Posted By: Drumsticks
...in all 4 of your reviews, based on your description of the activities, all of the providers should have been given at least a 9 for performance. The guidelines for performance ratings are laid out for you, they're objective but you didn't choose to follow them. Unfortunately, TER will bump a score down, but never up if the review description doesn't fit the guidelines. I've met two of the women that you have reviewed and I'm guessing that their attitude during the session was not an issue; they're both a pleasure to spend time with. One thing to keep in mind when you're rating providers is that most of the ladies you see are WAY out of your league. There's no way in Hell that you would have a chance to score with them in a regular civvie encounter so a little kindness, and objectivity should go a long way in your future encounters. Personally, I don't view you as a credible reviewer so far.  
   
 Happy Hobbying!  :)

sugardaddymike74 32 Reviews 909 reads
posted
18 / 30

Thank you my point exactly!

sugardaddymike74 32 Reviews 794 reads
posted
19 / 30
sugardaddymike74 32 Reviews 814 reads
posted
20 / 30

Summer, first you are an 8,9, or 10 hard to say without seeing you in person but based on your pictures it would be hard to rate you lower than 8 - the difference between you and her, is that she thinks she is, and maybe she was when she was your age but now she is more than double your age and 20lbs heavier than her pictures.  Thanks for the input!

maxwell44 23 Reviews 947 reads
posted
21 / 30

With all due respect, you are criticizing someone for not being credible, yet you are giving out a lot of 10s, which means they are all "once in a lifetime" experiences.  How many lifetimes do you actually have?  
 

Posted By: Drumsticks
...in all 4 of your reviews, based on your description of the activities, all of the providers should have been given at least a 9 for performance. The guidelines for performance ratings are laid out for you, they're objective but you didn't choose to follow them. Unfortunately, TER will bump a score down, but never up if the review description doesn't fit the guidelines. I've met two of the women that you have reviewed and I'm guessing that their attitude during the session was not an issue; they're both a pleasure to spend time with. One thing to keep in mind when you're rating providers is that most of the ladies you see are WAY out of your league. There's no way in Hell that you would have a chance to score with them in a regular civvie encounter so a little kindness, and objectivity should go a long way in your future encounters. Personally, I don't view you as a credible reviewer so far.  
   
 Happy Hobbying!  :)

tvlaw 58 Reviews 593 reads
posted
22 / 30

It is only fair to consider all the factors. Including, maybe the reviewer was having a bad day and had unrealistic expectations that the provider would improve his state of mind. I know that when I am having an intense week at the office, I may not enjoy the company of a friend as much as I normally do. I always consider that as one of the factors before I write a review. I think the write equation is fair, constructive and certainly not punitive. It is not the fault of the provider if someone is under a substantial amount of pressure and does not reciprocate.

Mister_Hand 757 reads
posted
23 / 30

Thank you Mister Spicoli, this is spot on.

Looks like a Kara Hott review just disappeared which had claimed her pictures are no longer accurate.
Posted By: Jeff_Spicoli
I generally operate under the delusional theory that my reviews should be an honest and accurate assessment of my experience on a given date.  Only twice in nearly 20 reviews have I given a 7 in one or both categories.   Both times, I was confronted on why I gave a poor review.  Once via PM and the other time on a discussion board.    
   
 This is a massive slippery slope.  Many guys, after a bad experience either won't write a review or will scrub it of negatives for fear of retaliation.  Not to compare women to appliances, but what good would consumer report ratings be if the editors never said anything negative about GE appliances for fear of retaliation.   It would taint (pun intended) the whole basis/foundation for the reviews.  
   
 Granted members can PM one another privately about their experiences with any ladies, but that is and end around and ignores the ongoing trend of pussification of the actual reviews.    
   
 In my line of work, if I don't put forth the effort and get the desired results with the desired client service, I will get poor reviews or lose business.    Good reviews are not a right, not a privilege.  

balljointnut 23 Reviews 665 reads
posted
24 / 30

If your pics are accurate then you have nothing to cry about. Regardless, you should never be down on yourself over the opinion of a man. We are notorious assholes.

balljointnut 23 Reviews 573 reads
posted
25 / 30

You have been around for awhile Gina and I'm not looking to start Chit with you, but having a review pulled because it's not "consistent" with what you want in the way of scores isn't right. Some of us review in our own way. How can you invalidate that review based on score? Often the score is not what a lady may like, but if you actually read the review.......it might be glowing.

And actually the burden of proof is on you ladies because this site was ultimately created for us men. Regardless of what TER rules say.

Actually the TER Admin's are becoming useless because the don't enforce their own rules. I see so many ladies that get 9's and 10's that don't even offer the services that qualify them for that score

I eagerly await your response..................

clubjeffe 106 Reviews 1458 reads
posted
26 / 30

I looked back and can't seem to find the post where I called anybody in particular out for not being credible.  

If we would all follow your logic - each guy would only be allowed to post one '10'.  

As far as my review history goes ... you might think that I tend to rate high but then again I do a lot of homework before rushing into anything.  I try to make some sort of connection before metting and so I pretty much know what to expect.  I've also NOT written almost as many reviews as I have.  

If you feel that my reviews are too high, there's a very easy solution to that - don't read 'em!

Drumsticks 90 Reviews 758 reads
posted
28 / 30

were directed at me, not you. You're so vain...you probably think this post is about you...

But, yes, I do have quite a few 10s for performance in my review list. Ahhhh....it's just SO damn good to be me!!! :D  It's quite easy to justify that; wiith each '10' I experience La Petit Mort. Following each little death I am born again into this hobby and with each new life I continue to seek my next Once in a Lifetime experience

clubjeffe 106 Reviews 859 reads
posted
29 / 30

Well you know that old saying ... "If the shoe fits, etc"  LOL

But we do have a lot in common in that I feel the same way after seeing some of these beauties!  

But I think most importantly is to do your homework ahead of time to avoid disappointments.

SKOC 72 Reviews 842 reads
posted
30 / 30

I had a girl stand me up twice (she offered to make it up to me for the second visit).  I tried writing a review to warn others to avoid her - can't post it because I never saw her.  We need to be honest with each other to protect each other from wasting time and/or effort.  I generally won't see a girl that is not reviewed here or elsewhere - the 1 time I did she bait & switched me!

I've been hit once by an agency to update my rating.  If a still decent review or rating impacts people, they need to improve.  I need "bad reviews" at work to see what I'm not doing right.  We all do.

To me 7 is a good visit, 8 is better.  9 is an amazing time and 10's are for that visit to end all visits and will make me (almost) retire from the hobby.

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