I have been visiting Phoenix for the past few weeks and decided to try out DD on recommendation from various posters here and my experience was with Vanessa and Jenna and I would like to say that it has been kind of mixed at the bottom end. My first experience was with Vanessa and it was completely contrary to the reviews posted. In fact my review is the only one that ranks her a 7. She was more interested in getting out. My next was with Jenna and it was not great either and she spent more time chatting than in the bed. She is a nice girl but I was disappointed that she got calls during the session about her next client appointment and I'm starting to wonder if DD providers are really as advertised. Tell me what is your experience. Did lightning really strike twice in the same place? Can I be wrong about one agency twice in a row? Please share your experiences. I am not trying to bash anyone at the agency but I'm expressing my frustration.

and you are not pleased with the service, you would be correct in bringing to the attention of management your disappointment. Hopefully at that point, they would choose to see that you received satisfaction. In short , call the agency and express  your dissatifaction and give them the opportunity to rectify the situation. We are fortunate in the valley to have great agency owners, I beleve as business owners they deserve the opportunity to make it right before you take it to the public. Sounds like common courtesy to me.
chil.

very kindly said

I've had very good success over the years with the ladies associated with that agency. The owner of the agency, and his assoicates, have always been professional and client satisfaction oriented,

As suggested in the post above, bringing your concern and/or disappointment directly to the attention of the owner would be an appropriate first step, if you haven't done so already.

Having just got back from Phoenix and problems arose with my pre-planned appointment I called DD as I have used them before.  Had great time.  With that said I would have to agree with Muffy and give the mgmt a call and see what happens.

Write your reviews of the girls - see if they stick. Rate them honestly, heck, if you posted this and feel this way, I'd make sure I drop them a notch or two (because anyone caring enough to post will probably overrate to be nice)to neutralize all the great reviews that caused you a loss. Yea, there wil be those that throw out the low and high, but I always read the low ones and see if it is real. And Phoenix is the toughest area to get a real sense as the reviews are higher than average. Tight community apparently.

And the loss is not just financial. This is not a bad meal. This is a personal experience that will sway you from other pleasurable moments. And there are many ladies out there that do provide them. And I would hate for you to miss one.

Desert Divas - has a few good ones for sure
AZ Confidential - I recommend all of them
HIPS - Has some limitations YMMV
Mystique - A few are can't miss, some are YMMV
Club TLC - Same as Mystique - but at their price point, after trying a few, I have stayed clear - too much YMMV

Mystique and CLub TLC girls feel scripted - come in, do the same things, leave. Not much fantasy but you do get the O.

Indies - some greast ones for sure - Isabella, Jasmine, MaryBeth, Piper, .. for me - most the others fall out of my taste buds or are too hard to schedule with or a bit different than portrayed photogenicaly.

Remember - an agency is mostly a booking company. Yes, they DO KNOW about their bad performers. DO they get rid of them? No. Having a variety allows for more apeal to a lot of guys. Like some "restaurants", you are just one customer of many bookings per week. Yea, they will make it right, but you will remember you tried twice, which is more than fair, and had two bad experiences. If they give you your money back and you can try a girl from another agency, that is the best solution. If they recommend someone else from DD, ask yourself why?

I mean, if a restaurant knew they were deliverng bad food ocasionally and waited for a complaint, would I keep going back? I think not...

But that is a hobbiest opinion...

Live in the moment!

1st)

By and large we're blessed with a number of excellent agencies, based on my personal experience with all of them I'd say that given the chance any of them (not just Paul at DD) would have worked with you. Given your initial encounter I'm a bit suprised you'd book a 2nd gal without a frank and candid discussion.

Over the years I've seen well over 50 gals from all of the major agencies and NEVER had a phone call from the agency mid session. Most of the gals check in and then turn thier phones off.


Now...

Looking at your reviews I do think you've got a higher standard then is the norm in Phoenix (where I think we have issues in that regard) so do a degree that might explain the "looks" element. However I must say that I've never had a substandard "performance" grade from a DD gal and only 1 ever out of the 50 (and god was it bad).

So in answer, some of it is YMMV, some of it is a question of expectations and regional variation and some just doesnt make sense...

I used to work at desert divas, I think when I worked there, my service was just as good as it is now... sometimes girls have bad days, too, which should be taken into consideration. When I worked there the girls that I had the chance to meet were well deserving of their reviews. Vanessa is one of them. There are a lot of new girls there now that I've not met, though. All the old favorites are now at AzCon, where before they were mixed between the two. What you might want to do is call paul or scott and tell them exactly what you're looking for in a girl. Or, go through the "search reviews" section of TER and fill in the details of what you're looking for there, and skim through the results that pull up, based on the consistency of reviews. That should give you a wider range of options for providers in the area.

disagree with your statement...Mystique girls are scripted,etc.etc...We strive to provide a memoramble experience each and every time...

I do not know your handle and it obviously is new and you have no reviews posted.  If you felt your experience with one of our ladies was less than you wanted why have we not heard from you about it...

In fact who have you seen with us and when..I am more than happy to look up your appointment and discuss any disappointment you feel you had with both you and the young lady you saw....

You can email me at [email protected] or call me at 480-233-0200...

Jack

Not looking to go behind the scenes and say how you made things right. I did not say your girls were bad, but I can tell you how the session will go before the girl walks in the door. And Jack, it is not your fault your girls have bad days - but you must admit you know the good from the bad - and send average or a bit below out at times. You know, YOU KNOW You...

I want EVERY FIRST experience (with different girls) to be THE BEST. As an agency, I rate you on the percentage of good versus average versus bad. Your agency has not had a realy "bad" experience. But there has been some below average. So to me, there is still a mystery...

I mean, do you just book girls? Do you know there are below average performers and still send them out? Just tying back the restaurant thing...It is the girls responsibiity to perform. Yours to keep performance high (restaurant thing). Not just to "make it right" after a problem...


Live the Moment!

Bummer, have Vanessa on my "To Do" list.  I use DD and their sister agency, AZC when I travel to Phx.  Over the past 2 yrs the girls I have seen consistently rate 8-9.  I did have one poor experience, with an unreviewed provider.
Something I have noticed:  A year ago, virtually all the girls profile indicated BBBJ and CIM. Recently I see some girls that offer only covered BJ's and of those who provide BBBJ's, many have a "No" or "Don't know" for CIM.

Honestly, I have had only one experience with either DD or AZC that was anyhing less than entirely memorable, and the best experience of my life came from 2 girls (at the same time) from DD.  The one time I ever had a less than perfect experience (and, by no means was it bad), Scott and Paul saw to it that it never happened again.
These guys are professionals, and they are honest and trustworthy men, in my couple of years of experience with them.  If you haven't discussed it with them, I feel sure that when you do, they will make it right.
For me, the best experiences are to be found from well reviewed agency girls, and while they're more expensive than Craigslist, you always know you'll have a good time.
Sorry it didn't work out well for you with the ones you saw.  I would be really surprised, though, if Paul doesn't make this right.
Happy hobbying.

I agree with you and may be I should have done just that but I felt that would be bad for the girl. I like the girls and did not want to hurt them in any way and hence wanted an opinion from the fine folks here. Frankly speaking I got the feedback on DD from this very site and the plenty of reviews that I read. I did my research and then came to the conclusion that it is best to use the agency.

I have tried some Indies but barring a couple I've had some horrible experiences and hence decided to make sure that if the girl ain't on TER then it ain't worth my while. Most of my time I spend in CA and my experience there is really awesome.

I do want to thank all the posters who have commented on this and it helps to ensure that we are all informed and can share our experiences.

in addition to some of the fine agencies we have in town. On your next trip out here, drop me a PM and I'd be happy to offer some recommendations for you about who you might have a nice time with.

-- Modified on 9/25/2008 7:14:58 AM

So let me get this straight, you didn't want to call the agency because you thought it would be bad for the girls, but you publicly posted it so that not only would the agency find out about it, but so would the rest of the community?
I don't get it, but let's not be too dramatic.  Post your reviews and move on...

are or who you saw that you felt was not a good experience.  You indicate things were made right and we did that then all should be well.

No two girls are the same.  So I still disagree with your analogy and form the overall reviews of our girls I would say that speaks for itself.

If a girl has a low service level we let them go...if that do not perform to the clients expectation we talk to them, give them a chance to rectify whatever the issue is and if it still is not done we part ways.

So I again ask you sir..who did you see and when as I am answering you blind and your handle is obviously new which leads me to believe there are hidden agendas in your post.

I again invite you to call me or email me as I did in my previous post to discuss this.  So far you have chosen only to criticize...I await your call....

Jack

... you are posting your own opinion and are NOT the spokesperson for anyone on this board. As Jack mentions, it seems you have a hidden personal agenda either with the agencies or with the owners. I for one am satisfied with my relationship with Mystique, AZC, DD and Hips... aka the Big Four. I have practiced this hobby around the world, quite literally, and I must say I've never met a better group of owners and ladies.

You're entire approach to the main question begs to question your agenda in this thread. It appears to me you are using "hobbyists" (notice the correct spelling!) as a shield to vent anger.

Everyone on this board has had bad days, but we let them go. If you REALLY had a bad experience with Jack or any of the owners, either talk with them directly and settle it, or drop the issue.

In reply to the original question on this thread....

SamKam - like everyone here, I suggest you contact the owner and discuss the issue. I have a good relationship with each of the owners and yes, I have had less than exceptional visits... which they have gladly helped resolve.

While I don't normally get involved in these types of discussions anymore, I must throw something out there to anyone that wants to listen... you say that after "trying a few" of my ladies you stay clear.  May I ask whom you've seen from my agency and if there was a problem, why wasn't anyone notified??  Just curious.

If I go to a new restaurant and my dinner is not cooked the way I like it, I may or may not mention it depending on the actual taste of the food compared to what I requested. But if I go there a "few" times and it still isn't right, I definitely say something to the staff. If you've used my agency a "few" times and were not satisfied, why would you not say something to Jackie, Brit or myself?  Just my 2 cents...

My point is, there are some agencies who know they have a mix of good and average girls. Some even, well, below average. Yet they charge the same or get folks to believe the entire agency is great.

If you went to a restaraunt 2 times and found that each time you went, something was a bit "off", why would you go back? I have never had a bad meal at the finer places in Phoenix I dine at. Yea, once in a while at a chain. Or I may get different service from checkers at Wal-Mart - but at higher end places, the service is CONSISTENT. They train that way - and I am not dealing with robots.

You are a stylish woman - shop at Nordstrom? Eat at City Hall? Have drinks at the Phoenician? If so, and you have repeated, can you name bad experiences there? Would you expect the management to be ok with people who were below average? I am not talking about a "bad" day a girl is having - but be honest - you know all of your girls are not the same...

Tell me they are. And look out for lightning..

Peace,

P.S. Jack and Taylor - I will not disclose my name or time I saw your girls - I have seen several from both of you already. Maybe I still will. Because it really is about the girl and I have my sources of who is good and not. I am curious though, why do you keep records of who I would be seeing? And be able to relate them by date and time to who I am? Kinda scary that so much data is being kept on your clients...Would you like it if I knew your real name and address? Probably not. Or if I knew your girls names and addresses? Kinda uncomfortable to talk about, huh. So back off that angle with me. No need as I am focused on enjoying the ladies, not the reps of the agencies.

Live the moment!

Point Taken Missing Link and I think you're right. In retrospect I should have contacted the agency directly. At the same time I don't think that I regret my decision to post it here as it has stirred a dialog that will benefit posters, hobbyists and providers to understand the dynamics of the market and makes each one of us richer in knowledge. I guess 1moment's point is also well taken and I sincerely thank all of you for the fantastic feedback. Please also if any of you know the owners of DD personally PM me the details.

Cheers

Sam

is one you own which is a indy only site...that explains your new handle and no reviews...

And don't think for a min that the majority of providers have some system to know who their clients are as references are shared amongst the provider community every day...

It appears you still have a agenda and at some point it will surface....

My number is still the same...480-233-0200

Thank You Neversoft52. Please can you do me a favor and PM me the contact info for the Owners? I'll be definitely letting them know about my experiences. I'm glad that we are all still debating the issue and still being civil. The community is well served.

The big Three are Great.  I say that without seeing one agency girl.  To me it is all about the person and the relationship I build with that person.  That pretty much is not what agencies are about.  They select the girls they think their customer base will like.  Keeps you safe and you should expect a certain standard.  If you don't receive it tell the boss.  I would.

If you know me you know I know my share of girls and have a certain understanding of what goes on.

If you don't have the time to do the research or have to much to risk.
My choices would be Rose, Taylor and Jack.  I call them THE BIG THREE.