there is now a new rumor that they intend to pick up every one on the DD list by 2010. Did you get that feeling on your visit to the DA's office? It is also rumored that statue of limitations do not apply in this case.
If people have any new info re interrogation or arrests of customers on the list, please post it ASAP. It would be very helpful for others to line up attorneys, bond monies & most importantly be psychologically ready. The community would really appreciate any helful info in these turbulent times.
my understanding is they did not interrogate anyone so far. It seems bail is $5000 cash in small bills. Most seem to be self surrendering. I am told you can have a attorney call the DA office and learn if you are a target.
Hope this helps
i heard this as well. I went down to the DA's office to find out if my name was on the list....they were very helpful.
Pinhunter, could you pl send me a PM. I would love to talk to you. Also could any of the people who surrendered themselves tell us about their experience. Thanks.
there is now a new rumor that they intend to pick up every one on the DD list by 2010. Did you get that feeling on your visit to the DA's office? It is also rumored that statue of limitations do not apply in this case.
If there are going after attempted pandering like some from reviews, it is a felony with as I understand it a 7 year statue of limitation vs a misdemeanor which is 1 yr which is up in August.
abc15.com has the list posted of everyone one the DD list
KPHO.com and abc15 have had the list on their site since February.
It is heavily redacted but has names and who the appt was with but most of rest is covered up.
2 Huge pdf files.
The direct abc15 link is below
Only a few in the 43 wave 2 self surrendered, most were or are being arrested per the Court records.
Some but not all are showing up with mug shots on MSCO have no idea why.
I noted the Photographer had no mug shot on MSCO but one of the TV stations had his picture which they unfortunately showed which sure looked like a mug shot not a nicely posed picture.
To really help the situation everone needs to attack the real problem which is public opunion and their pocket books.
The best way is to focus on travel to phoenix and the dangers to business travlers .
The kidnaping capital of the US .
the toughest moral codes in US and extreme inforcement.
If you come to phoenix you are at risk!!
Send message to friends and travel agents warning.
Recent discussions why booking down in phoenix write comments to article in paper on waste of money on moral enforcement and need to focus on gangs that threaten business travelers.
Police now admit gang after citizens.
You all can help!
Organize boycott Phoenix and Az.
im not an attorney but i have worked for the prosecuting attorney, i have been arrested and i can attest that the tactics in the link provided are definitely used..
if you are not prepared, it can be traumatic but if you are prepared, it's just a minor inconvenience.
1. do not call the da.. omfg thats the wrong team.... call a bail bondsman and tell him your concerns, find out what his process is, you might even be able to get the preliminary paperwork out of the way.
2. if you dont have one already, get a small safe. put cash in small bills into it.....the title to your car or whatever you can use for collateral..... if the bond is $5000, you'll need 500 cash and then you can get a bail bondsman to put up the rest if you have collateral.... an emergency list of instructions with phone #s... if you have pets or kids, make arrangements for them NOW ....if you have to pick lil billy up from soccer practice 3 times a week, put that on your list so your contact person can make the necessary arrangements.
3. give the safe's spare key to someone you trust or hide it... if you dont have a person you can trust, contact me and i will help you figure something out.... maybe dave will help too.
4. MEMORIZE somebody's phone # (preferably this would be person with the key to your safe, or your bail bondsman or your attorney, IF he's available 24-7).... IT HAS TO BE A LANDLINE, NOT A CELL PHONE #.. phone calls from jail can only go out to a landline (in most cases)..... when you go to jail, you dont get to look up people's phone #s on your cell phone or your laptop or a phonebook so you need to MEMORIZE IT OR GET IT TATTOO'D ON YOUR BUTT IF YOU CANT.
if you are smart, you can get out of jail within a few hours and wifey never has to know, REALLY... even if you cant make bond, as long as you dont have any failure to appears or charles manson type murders in your history, you SHOULD be able to get released on your own recognizance within a few hours.... once you get out, you'll need a ride, discount cab has an easy # to remember 200-2000 and they are 24/7.
if you are smart, means shut up.
name and address ONLY.
then shut up.
when they say they are going to call your wifey, they are LYING. when they say they are going to call this person or that person, they are LYING... they do not even know if you have a wifey so STFU... do not admit that you have kids or that you need to do this or that, the more distressed you are about getting arrested, the easier for them to get the information out of you that they need for a conviction.
remember you only have the right to remain silent AFTER THE CUFFS GO ON.
they can and they will trick you into spilling everything BEFORE they place you into custody.. they do this by making you believe that somehow, some way if you just cooperate with their questioning, they are going to go away.... they will tell you that they arent there to arrest you, only to question you.
THAT IS A LIE
as soon as you answer their questions, they are going to arrest you, i dont care how good your story is, there's really no way to avoid it but you CAN avoid getting convicted if you stfu.
they will also try to make you believe that if you dont cooperate with their questioning, they will charge you with this or that and the other bogus charges they really cant charge you with.
name, address, stfu.
you are now deaf and dumb.
stupidity is NOT against the law, unfortunately, so you might as well use it to your advantage and no comprende their threats, lies and tricky tactics.
oh and if possible, make your phone call to your trusted person BEFORE you open the front door or come face to face with one of them.... cuz they REALLY are not going to let you make a phone while they are questioning you... and it could be hours after you are in custody before you get to a phone and you want to make sure you are bonded out ASAP ..preferably, before you get processed in...
if they ask you if you want THEM to call someone for you, YOU DIDNT HEAR THEM BECAUSE YOU ARE DEAF AND DUMB....NO COMPRENDE... . the ONLY person you answer questions for is the judge, he will NEVER try to trick you into answering questions without your attorney, and coincidentally he is the ONLY person who determines your guilt/innocence.
the police are NOT there to do you ANY favors. they are just trying to get information out of you.
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they have to let you use it to make a call to him.